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How to calculate a conditional PDF in mathematica?


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What is an elegant way of calculating this result (programmatically) in mathematica?



Let $X$ be a random variable with PDF



$$f_X(x) =
begincases
x/4, & textif $1<xleq3$ \
0, & textotherwise
endcases$$



Let $A$ be the event $Xgeq2$




Find $f_A(x)$





Here is the answer done manually for convenience:



$$f_A(x) =
begincases
fracf_X(x)P(A), & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
0, & textotherwise
endcases$$



$$P(A)=P(Xgeq2)=int_2^3f_X(x) dx=5/8$$



$$implies f_A(x) =
begincases
frac2x5, & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
0, & textotherwise
endcases$$



I am looking for a programmatic solution that utilizes [Conditioned] or something else as high-level.



TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution look like promising avenues, but I am unable to state my problem in terms of them.



I know I could write out the problem explicitly in low level code. But I am looking for an implicit, declarative implementation. Surely mathematica with all its high level abstraction power can do this?




here is a failed attempt



A = X >= 2;
conditionalDist = TransformedDistribution[X [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed]ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3] ] ;
PDF[conditionalDist, y]









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    $begingroup$


    What is an elegant way of calculating this result (programmatically) in mathematica?



    Let $X$ be a random variable with PDF



    $$f_X(x) =
    begincases
    x/4, & textif $1<xleq3$ \
    0, & textotherwise
    endcases$$



    Let $A$ be the event $Xgeq2$




    Find $f_A(x)$





    Here is the answer done manually for convenience:



    $$f_A(x) =
    begincases
    fracf_X(x)P(A), & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
    0, & textotherwise
    endcases$$



    $$P(A)=P(Xgeq2)=int_2^3f_X(x) dx=5/8$$



    $$implies f_A(x) =
    begincases
    frac2x5, & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
    0, & textotherwise
    endcases$$



    I am looking for a programmatic solution that utilizes [Conditioned] or something else as high-level.



    TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution look like promising avenues, but I am unable to state my problem in terms of them.



    I know I could write out the problem explicitly in low level code. But I am looking for an implicit, declarative implementation. Surely mathematica with all its high level abstraction power can do this?




    here is a failed attempt



    A = X >= 2;
    conditionalDist = TransformedDistribution[X [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed]ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3] ] ;
    PDF[conditionalDist, y]









    share|improve this question











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      $begingroup$


      What is an elegant way of calculating this result (programmatically) in mathematica?



      Let $X$ be a random variable with PDF



      $$f_X(x) =
      begincases
      x/4, & textif $1<xleq3$ \
      0, & textotherwise
      endcases$$



      Let $A$ be the event $Xgeq2$




      Find $f_A(x)$





      Here is the answer done manually for convenience:



      $$f_A(x) =
      begincases
      fracf_X(x)P(A), & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
      0, & textotherwise
      endcases$$



      $$P(A)=P(Xgeq2)=int_2^3f_X(x) dx=5/8$$



      $$implies f_A(x) =
      begincases
      frac2x5, & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
      0, & textotherwise
      endcases$$



      I am looking for a programmatic solution that utilizes [Conditioned] or something else as high-level.



      TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution look like promising avenues, but I am unable to state my problem in terms of them.



      I know I could write out the problem explicitly in low level code. But I am looking for an implicit, declarative implementation. Surely mathematica with all its high level abstraction power can do this?




      here is a failed attempt



      A = X >= 2;
      conditionalDist = TransformedDistribution[X [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed]ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3] ] ;
      PDF[conditionalDist, y]









      share|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      What is an elegant way of calculating this result (programmatically) in mathematica?



      Let $X$ be a random variable with PDF



      $$f_X(x) =
      begincases
      x/4, & textif $1<xleq3$ \
      0, & textotherwise
      endcases$$



      Let $A$ be the event $Xgeq2$




      Find $f_A(x)$





      Here is the answer done manually for convenience:



      $$f_A(x) =
      begincases
      fracf_X(x)P(A), & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
      0, & textotherwise
      endcases$$



      $$P(A)=P(Xgeq2)=int_2^3f_X(x) dx=5/8$$



      $$implies f_A(x) =
      begincases
      frac2x5, & textif $2leq xleq3$ \
      0, & textotherwise
      endcases$$



      I am looking for a programmatic solution that utilizes [Conditioned] or something else as high-level.



      TransformedDistribution and ProbabilityDistribution look like promising avenues, but I am unable to state my problem in terms of them.



      I know I could write out the problem explicitly in low level code. But I am looking for an implicit, declarative implementation. Surely mathematica with all its high level abstraction power can do this?




      here is a failed attempt



      A = X >= 2;
      conditionalDist = TransformedDistribution[X [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed]ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3] ] ;
      PDF[conditionalDist, y]






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          $begingroup$

          You can use combination of ProbabilityDistribution and TruncatedDistribution as follows:



          f[x_] := x/4
          dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];
          td = TruncatedDistribution[2, Infinity, dist];

          PDF[td, x]



          $begincases
          frac2 x5 & 2<x<3 \
          0 & textTrue
          endcases$




          Probability[Conditioned[x <= t, x > 2], Distributed[x, dist]] // TeXForm



          $begincases
          1 & tgeq 3 \
          frac15 left(t^2-4right) & 2<t<3
          endcases$







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            $begingroup$

            Here's another method that uses the CDF to directly define the desired distribution and which might be a bit more intuitive/self-evident:



            f[x_] := x/4
            dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];

            ProbabilityDistribution[

            "CDF",
            Probability[x < y [Conditioned] x > 2, x [Distributed] dist]
            ,
            y, -[Infinity], [Infinity]
            ];



            ProbabilityDistribution[Piecewise[(2*[FormalX])/5, 2 < [FormalX] < 3, 0], [FormalX], -Infinity, Infinity]




            In other words: we just compute the CDF with Probability and then plonk it into ProbabilityDistribution while telling it that it's a CDF rather than a PDF. This is a useful trick to keep in mind, since the CDF is sometimes easier to work with since it's a proper probability.






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              nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
              $endgroup$
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              7 hours ago


















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            I learned from @kglr that Probability can give you a conditional CDF.
            One can take the derivative of this to compute the desired conditional PDF.



            A = X >= 2;
            conditionalCDF = Probability[X <= y [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed] ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3]];
            D[conditionalCDF, y]





            share|improve this answer









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              $begingroup$

              Sometimes "compact" can be considered elegant:



              (x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3]
              (* (2 x)/5 *)


              If you need it in terms of Mathematica's ProbabilityDistribution:



              d = ProbabilityDistribution[(x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3], x, 2, 3]
              PDF[d, x]


              Conditional density



              CDF[d, x]


              Conditional distribution function






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                $begingroup$

                You can use combination of ProbabilityDistribution and TruncatedDistribution as follows:



                f[x_] := x/4
                dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];
                td = TruncatedDistribution[2, Infinity, dist];

                PDF[td, x]



                $begincases
                frac2 x5 & 2<x<3 \
                0 & textTrue
                endcases$




                Probability[Conditioned[x <= t, x > 2], Distributed[x, dist]] // TeXForm



                $begincases
                1 & tgeq 3 \
                frac15 left(t^2-4right) & 2<t<3
                endcases$







                share|improve this answer









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                  $begingroup$

                  You can use combination of ProbabilityDistribution and TruncatedDistribution as follows:



                  f[x_] := x/4
                  dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];
                  td = TruncatedDistribution[2, Infinity, dist];

                  PDF[td, x]



                  $begincases
                  frac2 x5 & 2<x<3 \
                  0 & textTrue
                  endcases$




                  Probability[Conditioned[x <= t, x > 2], Distributed[x, dist]] // TeXForm



                  $begincases
                  1 & tgeq 3 \
                  frac15 left(t^2-4right) & 2<t<3
                  endcases$







                  share|improve this answer









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                    4





                    $begingroup$

                    You can use combination of ProbabilityDistribution and TruncatedDistribution as follows:



                    f[x_] := x/4
                    dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];
                    td = TruncatedDistribution[2, Infinity, dist];

                    PDF[td, x]



                    $begincases
                    frac2 x5 & 2<x<3 \
                    0 & textTrue
                    endcases$




                    Probability[Conditioned[x <= t, x > 2], Distributed[x, dist]] // TeXForm



                    $begincases
                    1 & tgeq 3 \
                    frac15 left(t^2-4right) & 2<t<3
                    endcases$







                    share|improve this answer









                    $endgroup$



                    You can use combination of ProbabilityDistribution and TruncatedDistribution as follows:



                    f[x_] := x/4
                    dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];
                    td = TruncatedDistribution[2, Infinity, dist];

                    PDF[td, x]



                    $begincases
                    frac2 x5 & 2<x<3 \
                    0 & textTrue
                    endcases$




                    Probability[Conditioned[x <= t, x > 2], Distributed[x, dist]] // TeXForm



                    $begincases
                    1 & tgeq 3 \
                    frac15 left(t^2-4right) & 2<t<3
                    endcases$








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                        $begingroup$

                        Here's another method that uses the CDF to directly define the desired distribution and which might be a bit more intuitive/self-evident:



                        f[x_] := x/4
                        dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];

                        ProbabilityDistribution[

                        "CDF",
                        Probability[x < y [Conditioned] x > 2, x [Distributed] dist]
                        ,
                        y, -[Infinity], [Infinity]
                        ];



                        ProbabilityDistribution[Piecewise[(2*[FormalX])/5, 2 < [FormalX] < 3, 0], [FormalX], -Infinity, Infinity]




                        In other words: we just compute the CDF with Probability and then plonk it into ProbabilityDistribution while telling it that it's a CDF rather than a PDF. This is a useful trick to keep in mind, since the CDF is sometimes easier to work with since it's a proper probability.






                        share|improve this answer









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                        • $begingroup$
                          nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
                          $endgroup$
                          – Conor Cosnett
                          7 hours ago















                        2












                        $begingroup$

                        Here's another method that uses the CDF to directly define the desired distribution and which might be a bit more intuitive/self-evident:



                        f[x_] := x/4
                        dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];

                        ProbabilityDistribution[

                        "CDF",
                        Probability[x < y [Conditioned] x > 2, x [Distributed] dist]
                        ,
                        y, -[Infinity], [Infinity]
                        ];



                        ProbabilityDistribution[Piecewise[(2*[FormalX])/5, 2 < [FormalX] < 3, 0], [FormalX], -Infinity, Infinity]




                        In other words: we just compute the CDF with Probability and then plonk it into ProbabilityDistribution while telling it that it's a CDF rather than a PDF. This is a useful trick to keep in mind, since the CDF is sometimes easier to work with since it's a proper probability.






                        share|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$












                        • $begingroup$
                          nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
                          $endgroup$
                          – Conor Cosnett
                          7 hours ago













                        2












                        2








                        2





                        $begingroup$

                        Here's another method that uses the CDF to directly define the desired distribution and which might be a bit more intuitive/self-evident:



                        f[x_] := x/4
                        dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];

                        ProbabilityDistribution[

                        "CDF",
                        Probability[x < y [Conditioned] x > 2, x [Distributed] dist]
                        ,
                        y, -[Infinity], [Infinity]
                        ];



                        ProbabilityDistribution[Piecewise[(2*[FormalX])/5, 2 < [FormalX] < 3, 0], [FormalX], -Infinity, Infinity]




                        In other words: we just compute the CDF with Probability and then plonk it into ProbabilityDistribution while telling it that it's a CDF rather than a PDF. This is a useful trick to keep in mind, since the CDF is sometimes easier to work with since it's a proper probability.






                        share|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$



                        Here's another method that uses the CDF to directly define the desired distribution and which might be a bit more intuitive/self-evident:



                        f[x_] := x/4
                        dist = ProbabilityDistribution[f[x], x, 1, 3];

                        ProbabilityDistribution[

                        "CDF",
                        Probability[x < y [Conditioned] x > 2, x [Distributed] dist]
                        ,
                        y, -[Infinity], [Infinity]
                        ];



                        ProbabilityDistribution[Piecewise[(2*[FormalX])/5, 2 < [FormalX] < 3, 0], [FormalX], -Infinity, Infinity]




                        In other words: we just compute the CDF with Probability and then plonk it into ProbabilityDistribution while telling it that it's a CDF rather than a PDF. This is a useful trick to keep in mind, since the CDF is sometimes easier to work with since it's a proper probability.







                        share|improve this answer












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                        • $begingroup$
                          nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
                          $endgroup$
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                          7 hours ago
















                        • $begingroup$
                          nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
                          $endgroup$
                          – Conor Cosnett
                          7 hours ago















                        $begingroup$
                        nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
                        $endgroup$
                        – Conor Cosnett
                        7 hours ago




                        $begingroup$
                        nice! (I felt that there must be a more direct way out there!)
                        $endgroup$
                        – Conor Cosnett
                        7 hours ago











                        1












                        $begingroup$

                        I learned from @kglr that Probability can give you a conditional CDF.
                        One can take the derivative of this to compute the desired conditional PDF.



                        A = X >= 2;
                        conditionalCDF = Probability[X <= y [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed] ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3]];
                        D[conditionalCDF, y]





                        share|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$

















                          1












                          $begingroup$

                          I learned from @kglr that Probability can give you a conditional CDF.
                          One can take the derivative of this to compute the desired conditional PDF.



                          A = X >= 2;
                          conditionalCDF = Probability[X <= y [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed] ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3]];
                          D[conditionalCDF, y]





                          share|improve this answer









                          $endgroup$















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                            1





                            $begingroup$

                            I learned from @kglr that Probability can give you a conditional CDF.
                            One can take the derivative of this to compute the desired conditional PDF.



                            A = X >= 2;
                            conditionalCDF = Probability[X <= y [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed] ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3]];
                            D[conditionalCDF, y]





                            share|improve this answer









                            $endgroup$



                            I learned from @kglr that Probability can give you a conditional CDF.
                            One can take the derivative of this to compute the desired conditional PDF.



                            A = X >= 2;
                            conditionalCDF = Probability[X <= y [Conditioned] A, X [Distributed] ProbabilityDistribution[x/4, x, 1, 3]];
                            D[conditionalCDF, y]






                            share|improve this answer












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                            answered 8 hours ago









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                                1












                                $begingroup$

                                Sometimes "compact" can be considered elegant:



                                (x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3]
                                (* (2 x)/5 *)


                                If you need it in terms of Mathematica's ProbabilityDistribution:



                                d = ProbabilityDistribution[(x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3], x, 2, 3]
                                PDF[d, x]


                                Conditional density



                                CDF[d, x]


                                Conditional distribution function






                                share|improve this answer









                                $endgroup$

















                                  1












                                  $begingroup$

                                  Sometimes "compact" can be considered elegant:



                                  (x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3]
                                  (* (2 x)/5 *)


                                  If you need it in terms of Mathematica's ProbabilityDistribution:



                                  d = ProbabilityDistribution[(x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3], x, 2, 3]
                                  PDF[d, x]


                                  Conditional density



                                  CDF[d, x]


                                  Conditional distribution function






                                  share|improve this answer









                                  $endgroup$















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                                    $begingroup$

                                    Sometimes "compact" can be considered elegant:



                                    (x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3]
                                    (* (2 x)/5 *)


                                    If you need it in terms of Mathematica's ProbabilityDistribution:



                                    d = ProbabilityDistribution[(x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3], x, 2, 3]
                                    PDF[d, x]


                                    Conditional density



                                    CDF[d, x]


                                    Conditional distribution function






                                    share|improve this answer









                                    $endgroup$



                                    Sometimes "compact" can be considered elegant:



                                    (x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3]
                                    (* (2 x)/5 *)


                                    If you need it in terms of Mathematica's ProbabilityDistribution:



                                    d = ProbabilityDistribution[(x/4)/Integrate[x/4, x, 2, 3], x, 2, 3]
                                    PDF[d, x]


                                    Conditional density



                                    CDF[d, x]


                                    Conditional distribution function







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