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I am a first time home buyer and have some spare cash after my home purchase to pay forward quite a bit of money (cash was not available during actual purchase, so, no, I could not have put it towards the downpayment). I just want to make sure I understand precisely what happens with my amortization schedule if I pay extra/ahead of time. My mortgage is $300k at 3.7% interest (30 year fixed). Here is the first few months in the schedule:enter image description here
My question is, let's say I pay both November and December's principal in November (ie paying $913.10 in principal + November's $925.00 interest). Does my new schedule look like this? enter image description here
The key question being that the $923.59 interest from the original schedule's December just completely disappears? (Perhaps the resulting principal/interest in the post-November months would change since technically the balance is now lower... but I'm not fussed over the specific mathematics on that point). I am expressly asking does the $923.59 interest from December permanently go away?. Phrased more generally, does paying month x,y,z's principal forward permanently remove month x,y,z's interest (where x,y,z are months that are not the current month)?










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    I am a first time home buyer and have some spare cash after my home purchase to pay forward quite a bit of money (cash was not available during actual purchase, so, no, I could not have put it towards the downpayment). I just want to make sure I understand precisely what happens with my amortization schedule if I pay extra/ahead of time. My mortgage is $300k at 3.7% interest (30 year fixed). Here is the first few months in the schedule:enter image description here
    My question is, let's say I pay both November and December's principal in November (ie paying $913.10 in principal + November's $925.00 interest). Does my new schedule look like this? enter image description here
    The key question being that the $923.59 interest from the original schedule's December just completely disappears? (Perhaps the resulting principal/interest in the post-November months would change since technically the balance is now lower... but I'm not fussed over the specific mathematics on that point). I am expressly asking does the $923.59 interest from December permanently go away?. Phrased more generally, does paying month x,y,z's principal forward permanently remove month x,y,z's interest (where x,y,z are months that are not the current month)?










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      I am a first time home buyer and have some spare cash after my home purchase to pay forward quite a bit of money (cash was not available during actual purchase, so, no, I could not have put it towards the downpayment). I just want to make sure I understand precisely what happens with my amortization schedule if I pay extra/ahead of time. My mortgage is $300k at 3.7% interest (30 year fixed). Here is the first few months in the schedule:enter image description here
      My question is, let's say I pay both November and December's principal in November (ie paying $913.10 in principal + November's $925.00 interest). Does my new schedule look like this? enter image description here
      The key question being that the $923.59 interest from the original schedule's December just completely disappears? (Perhaps the resulting principal/interest in the post-November months would change since technically the balance is now lower... but I'm not fussed over the specific mathematics on that point). I am expressly asking does the $923.59 interest from December permanently go away?. Phrased more generally, does paying month x,y,z's principal forward permanently remove month x,y,z's interest (where x,y,z are months that are not the current month)?










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      I am a first time home buyer and have some spare cash after my home purchase to pay forward quite a bit of money (cash was not available during actual purchase, so, no, I could not have put it towards the downpayment). I just want to make sure I understand precisely what happens with my amortization schedule if I pay extra/ahead of time. My mortgage is $300k at 3.7% interest (30 year fixed). Here is the first few months in the schedule:enter image description here
      My question is, let's say I pay both November and December's principal in November (ie paying $913.10 in principal + November's $925.00 interest). Does my new schedule look like this? enter image description here
      The key question being that the $923.59 interest from the original schedule's December just completely disappears? (Perhaps the resulting principal/interest in the post-November months would change since technically the balance is now lower... but I'm not fussed over the specific mathematics on that point). I am expressly asking does the $923.59 interest from December permanently go away?. Phrased more generally, does paying month x,y,z's principal forward permanently remove month x,y,z's interest (where x,y,z are months that are not the current month)?







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          Interest does not "disappear", but it is reduced in proportion to your outstanding principal balance.



          Interest accrued in a pay period (month) = Principal balance * Interest rate (monthly)



          It sounds like this is what you probably meant. In your example, Dec-19 interest is reduced to what Jan-20 interest would have been without the extra payment.






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            People already answered, but the point is you have a flaw in your thinking. December interest is not interest on december's principal payment amount. You're paying interest on $300k (which is why it's so much), not on $450 (which would be 200% interest per month), your december interest is reduced by about 0.3% (3.7%/12) of $450 (the additional principal you're paying) which is about $1.50






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              Yes. One 'trick' to paying your mortgage in an accelerated fashion is to use the amortization schedule, and pay 'next month's principal. That puts you a month ahead on the schedule. Put another way, if you math it, take that principal, and inflate it by applying the interest rate over the time til the current last payment, you'll see they match up. i.e. 1.037^30*457.25 = 1359.92 (close enough?)



              To be clear, when you pay one month principal ahead, you literally move that extra month along on your amortization table.






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              • Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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              The interest payment does not "go away", but the amount you have to pay will be reduced. Each month, the amount of interest accrued is based on the remaining balance; a smaller balance means less interest.



              You can calculate a new row in the table/schedule the following way:



              • Interest = 0.003083 * previous balance (result of previous payment)

              • Payment = amount planned for payment (make sure this is at least the minimum due expected by your lender)

              • Principal paid = payment - interest

              • Remaining balance = previous balance - principal paid

              Here, 0.003083 is an approximation of the monthly interest rate (3.7% divided by 12 months).






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                The answer will, in part, depend on the country you are in, in part, on the actual terms and conditions of your contract, and in part, on the regulatory structure the lender is required to operate under.



                Having worked in this area for a segment of my life. None of us can actually tell you the answer.



                For a scheduled balance loan in the United States, yes, that is approximately how it would work if you paid precisely on the due date. I can think of contracts where that would not be true though you no longer see them in much use in the United States.



                The reason it may not work that way is that you may have a prepayment penalty, and you may not have the correct number of days in the calculation. A prepayment penalty may reduce the amount that goes to the principal. Also, some places have 360 day years and 30 day months while others have actual days in the actual year, and some have actual days in a 365 day year with no leap days.



                I would tell you to see your loan officer, but they most likely have no idea. Their job is sales. They rarely have back-office knowledge because it isn't their job.



                There are contracts, rare now in the United States, where the interest is precomputed so that you pay the same amount of interest no matter how much you pay or when you pay. There is no such thing as a principal reduction in any ordinary sense. Your original amortization schedule happens no matter what your behavior is. If you had a precomputed contract, then if you were supposed to owe $1000 in interest in January 2020, then no matter what you do, except paying the loan off, you will owe $1,000 in interest in January. Even you had paid the loan down to one penny; you would still owe $1000 in interest.



                Get your contract, deed of trust or mortgage out and read them. Get a printout of recent payments. That will give you a hint as to how many days are being used in a month and in a year. The best indicator is February. If the actual number of days is used then it will be a low interest month. If it is 30/360 it will behave differently. Most U.S. states require precomputed contracts to be spelled out in Truth-In-Lending statement or consumer finance protection statement. Prepayment penalties will be spelled out in multiple places.



                Finally, there have existed, I am not sure if they still exist, contracts that do not permit prepayment. Partial payments may go to the escrow account or sit out as an unapplied credit waiting for the rest of the money to complete a full payment amount. The money would just sit there doing nothing until it accumulated enough to be a full payment. Then it would be applied when that payment came due.



                Outside the United States, there are a number of interest calculation structures that are not used, nor are they similar to those used in the United States.



                Simple interest is almost never used in the United States and is banned in some jurisdictions for mortgages.



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                One additional thing, separate out any principal reduction and clearly mark it principal reduction. If you do not, it may be applied to something else. I might pay it in person.



                If I had any concerns, I would do a small principal reduction and see how it affected loan behavior.



                From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments of a certain amount on a certain date. Unless it says otherwise, you did not sign a contract allowing you to vary your behavior from the stated terms.






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                Interest does not "disappear", but it is reduced in proportion to your outstanding principal balance.



                Interest accrued in a pay period (month) = Principal balance * Interest rate (monthly)



                It sounds like this is what you probably meant. In your example, Dec-19 interest is reduced to what Jan-20 interest would have been without the extra payment.






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                  Interest does not "disappear", but it is reduced in proportion to your outstanding principal balance.



                  Interest accrued in a pay period (month) = Principal balance * Interest rate (monthly)



                  It sounds like this is what you probably meant. In your example, Dec-19 interest is reduced to what Jan-20 interest would have been without the extra payment.






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                    Interest does not "disappear", but it is reduced in proportion to your outstanding principal balance.



                    Interest accrued in a pay period (month) = Principal balance * Interest rate (monthly)



                    It sounds like this is what you probably meant. In your example, Dec-19 interest is reduced to what Jan-20 interest would have been without the extra payment.






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                    Interest does not "disappear", but it is reduced in proportion to your outstanding principal balance.



                    Interest accrued in a pay period (month) = Principal balance * Interest rate (monthly)



                    It sounds like this is what you probably meant. In your example, Dec-19 interest is reduced to what Jan-20 interest would have been without the extra payment.







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                        People already answered, but the point is you have a flaw in your thinking. December interest is not interest on december's principal payment amount. You're paying interest on $300k (which is why it's so much), not on $450 (which would be 200% interest per month), your december interest is reduced by about 0.3% (3.7%/12) of $450 (the additional principal you're paying) which is about $1.50






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                          People already answered, but the point is you have a flaw in your thinking. December interest is not interest on december's principal payment amount. You're paying interest on $300k (which is why it's so much), not on $450 (which would be 200% interest per month), your december interest is reduced by about 0.3% (3.7%/12) of $450 (the additional principal you're paying) which is about $1.50






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                            People already answered, but the point is you have a flaw in your thinking. December interest is not interest on december's principal payment amount. You're paying interest on $300k (which is why it's so much), not on $450 (which would be 200% interest per month), your december interest is reduced by about 0.3% (3.7%/12) of $450 (the additional principal you're paying) which is about $1.50






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                            People already answered, but the point is you have a flaw in your thinking. December interest is not interest on december's principal payment amount. You're paying interest on $300k (which is why it's so much), not on $450 (which would be 200% interest per month), your december interest is reduced by about 0.3% (3.7%/12) of $450 (the additional principal you're paying) which is about $1.50







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                                Yes. One 'trick' to paying your mortgage in an accelerated fashion is to use the amortization schedule, and pay 'next month's principal. That puts you a month ahead on the schedule. Put another way, if you math it, take that principal, and inflate it by applying the interest rate over the time til the current last payment, you'll see they match up. i.e. 1.037^30*457.25 = 1359.92 (close enough?)



                                To be clear, when you pay one month principal ahead, you literally move that extra month along on your amortization table.






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                                • Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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                                  Yes, but that's another question, one discussed here many times.

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                                Yes. One 'trick' to paying your mortgage in an accelerated fashion is to use the amortization schedule, and pay 'next month's principal. That puts you a month ahead on the schedule. Put another way, if you math it, take that principal, and inflate it by applying the interest rate over the time til the current last payment, you'll see they match up. i.e. 1.037^30*457.25 = 1359.92 (close enough?)



                                To be clear, when you pay one month principal ahead, you literally move that extra month along on your amortization table.






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                                • Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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                                Yes. One 'trick' to paying your mortgage in an accelerated fashion is to use the amortization schedule, and pay 'next month's principal. That puts you a month ahead on the schedule. Put another way, if you math it, take that principal, and inflate it by applying the interest rate over the time til the current last payment, you'll see they match up. i.e. 1.037^30*457.25 = 1359.92 (close enough?)



                                To be clear, when you pay one month principal ahead, you literally move that extra month along on your amortization table.






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                                Yes. One 'trick' to paying your mortgage in an accelerated fashion is to use the amortization schedule, and pay 'next month's principal. That puts you a month ahead on the schedule. Put another way, if you math it, take that principal, and inflate it by applying the interest rate over the time til the current last payment, you'll see they match up. i.e. 1.037^30*457.25 = 1359.92 (close enough?)



                                To be clear, when you pay one month principal ahead, you literally move that extra month along on your amortization table.







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                                • Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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                                • Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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                                  Yes, but that's another question, one discussed here many times.

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                                Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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                                Please tell me if this follow-up statement is true or not: Since the amount I am saving on each additional principle payment x is basically x*(1+r)^(years), it is inadvisable to do since this r < .08, which is a general estimation of the return I would get for the same x in the stock market. In plain words, the money I save by paying forward $x is less than the money I would earn by investing $x into the stock market (3.625 vs ~8). Is that a good way to look at it?

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                                Yes, but that's another question, one discussed here many times.

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                                The interest payment does not "go away", but the amount you have to pay will be reduced. Each month, the amount of interest accrued is based on the remaining balance; a smaller balance means less interest.



                                You can calculate a new row in the table/schedule the following way:



                                • Interest = 0.003083 * previous balance (result of previous payment)

                                • Payment = amount planned for payment (make sure this is at least the minimum due expected by your lender)

                                • Principal paid = payment - interest

                                • Remaining balance = previous balance - principal paid

                                Here, 0.003083 is an approximation of the monthly interest rate (3.7% divided by 12 months).






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                                  The interest payment does not "go away", but the amount you have to pay will be reduced. Each month, the amount of interest accrued is based on the remaining balance; a smaller balance means less interest.



                                  You can calculate a new row in the table/schedule the following way:



                                  • Interest = 0.003083 * previous balance (result of previous payment)

                                  • Payment = amount planned for payment (make sure this is at least the minimum due expected by your lender)

                                  • Principal paid = payment - interest

                                  • Remaining balance = previous balance - principal paid

                                  Here, 0.003083 is an approximation of the monthly interest rate (3.7% divided by 12 months).






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                                    The interest payment does not "go away", but the amount you have to pay will be reduced. Each month, the amount of interest accrued is based on the remaining balance; a smaller balance means less interest.



                                    You can calculate a new row in the table/schedule the following way:



                                    • Interest = 0.003083 * previous balance (result of previous payment)

                                    • Payment = amount planned for payment (make sure this is at least the minimum due expected by your lender)

                                    • Principal paid = payment - interest

                                    • Remaining balance = previous balance - principal paid

                                    Here, 0.003083 is an approximation of the monthly interest rate (3.7% divided by 12 months).






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                                    The interest payment does not "go away", but the amount you have to pay will be reduced. Each month, the amount of interest accrued is based on the remaining balance; a smaller balance means less interest.



                                    You can calculate a new row in the table/schedule the following way:



                                    • Interest = 0.003083 * previous balance (result of previous payment)

                                    • Payment = amount planned for payment (make sure this is at least the minimum due expected by your lender)

                                    • Principal paid = payment - interest

                                    • Remaining balance = previous balance - principal paid

                                    Here, 0.003083 is an approximation of the monthly interest rate (3.7% divided by 12 months).







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                                        The answer will, in part, depend on the country you are in, in part, on the actual terms and conditions of your contract, and in part, on the regulatory structure the lender is required to operate under.



                                        Having worked in this area for a segment of my life. None of us can actually tell you the answer.



                                        For a scheduled balance loan in the United States, yes, that is approximately how it would work if you paid precisely on the due date. I can think of contracts where that would not be true though you no longer see them in much use in the United States.



                                        The reason it may not work that way is that you may have a prepayment penalty, and you may not have the correct number of days in the calculation. A prepayment penalty may reduce the amount that goes to the principal. Also, some places have 360 day years and 30 day months while others have actual days in the actual year, and some have actual days in a 365 day year with no leap days.



                                        I would tell you to see your loan officer, but they most likely have no idea. Their job is sales. They rarely have back-office knowledge because it isn't their job.



                                        There are contracts, rare now in the United States, where the interest is precomputed so that you pay the same amount of interest no matter how much you pay or when you pay. There is no such thing as a principal reduction in any ordinary sense. Your original amortization schedule happens no matter what your behavior is. If you had a precomputed contract, then if you were supposed to owe $1000 in interest in January 2020, then no matter what you do, except paying the loan off, you will owe $1,000 in interest in January. Even you had paid the loan down to one penny; you would still owe $1000 in interest.



                                        Get your contract, deed of trust or mortgage out and read them. Get a printout of recent payments. That will give you a hint as to how many days are being used in a month and in a year. The best indicator is February. If the actual number of days is used then it will be a low interest month. If it is 30/360 it will behave differently. Most U.S. states require precomputed contracts to be spelled out in Truth-In-Lending statement or consumer finance protection statement. Prepayment penalties will be spelled out in multiple places.



                                        Finally, there have existed, I am not sure if they still exist, contracts that do not permit prepayment. Partial payments may go to the escrow account or sit out as an unapplied credit waiting for the rest of the money to complete a full payment amount. The money would just sit there doing nothing until it accumulated enough to be a full payment. Then it would be applied when that payment came due.



                                        Outside the United States, there are a number of interest calculation structures that are not used, nor are they similar to those used in the United States.



                                        Simple interest is almost never used in the United States and is banned in some jurisdictions for mortgages.



                                        EDIT
                                        One additional thing, separate out any principal reduction and clearly mark it principal reduction. If you do not, it may be applied to something else. I might pay it in person.



                                        If I had any concerns, I would do a small principal reduction and see how it affected loan behavior.



                                        From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments of a certain amount on a certain date. Unless it says otherwise, you did not sign a contract allowing you to vary your behavior from the stated terms.






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                                        The answer will, in part, depend on the country you are in, in part, on the actual terms and conditions of your contract, and in part, on the regulatory structure the lender is required to operate under.



                                        Having worked in this area for a segment of my life. None of us can actually tell you the answer.



                                        For a scheduled balance loan in the United States, yes, that is approximately how it would work if you paid precisely on the due date. I can think of contracts where that would not be true though you no longer see them in much use in the United States.



                                        The reason it may not work that way is that you may have a prepayment penalty, and you may not have the correct number of days in the calculation. A prepayment penalty may reduce the amount that goes to the principal. Also, some places have 360 day years and 30 day months while others have actual days in the actual year, and some have actual days in a 365 day year with no leap days.



                                        I would tell you to see your loan officer, but they most likely have no idea. Their job is sales. They rarely have back-office knowledge because it isn't their job.



                                        There are contracts, rare now in the United States, where the interest is precomputed so that you pay the same amount of interest no matter how much you pay or when you pay. There is no such thing as a principal reduction in any ordinary sense. Your original amortization schedule happens no matter what your behavior is. If you had a precomputed contract, then if you were supposed to owe $1000 in interest in January 2020, then no matter what you do, except paying the loan off, you will owe $1,000 in interest in January. Even you had paid the loan down to one penny; you would still owe $1000 in interest.



                                        Get your contract, deed of trust or mortgage out and read them. Get a printout of recent payments. That will give you a hint as to how many days are being used in a month and in a year. The best indicator is February. If the actual number of days is used then it will be a low interest month. If it is 30/360 it will behave differently. Most U.S. states require precomputed contracts to be spelled out in Truth-In-Lending statement or consumer finance protection statement. Prepayment penalties will be spelled out in multiple places.



                                        Finally, there have existed, I am not sure if they still exist, contracts that do not permit prepayment. Partial payments may go to the escrow account or sit out as an unapplied credit waiting for the rest of the money to complete a full payment amount. The money would just sit there doing nothing until it accumulated enough to be a full payment. Then it would be applied when that payment came due.



                                        Outside the United States, there are a number of interest calculation structures that are not used, nor are they similar to those used in the United States.



                                        Simple interest is almost never used in the United States and is banned in some jurisdictions for mortgages.



                                        EDIT
                                        One additional thing, separate out any principal reduction and clearly mark it principal reduction. If you do not, it may be applied to something else. I might pay it in person.



                                        If I had any concerns, I would do a small principal reduction and see how it affected loan behavior.



                                        From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments of a certain amount on a certain date. Unless it says otherwise, you did not sign a contract allowing you to vary your behavior from the stated terms.






                                        share|improve this answer























                                        • 7





                                          "From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments". That's not true.

                                          – RonJohn
                                          8 hours ago














                                        -3














                                        -3










                                        -3









                                        The answer will, in part, depend on the country you are in, in part, on the actual terms and conditions of your contract, and in part, on the regulatory structure the lender is required to operate under.



                                        Having worked in this area for a segment of my life. None of us can actually tell you the answer.



                                        For a scheduled balance loan in the United States, yes, that is approximately how it would work if you paid precisely on the due date. I can think of contracts where that would not be true though you no longer see them in much use in the United States.



                                        The reason it may not work that way is that you may have a prepayment penalty, and you may not have the correct number of days in the calculation. A prepayment penalty may reduce the amount that goes to the principal. Also, some places have 360 day years and 30 day months while others have actual days in the actual year, and some have actual days in a 365 day year with no leap days.



                                        I would tell you to see your loan officer, but they most likely have no idea. Their job is sales. They rarely have back-office knowledge because it isn't their job.



                                        There are contracts, rare now in the United States, where the interest is precomputed so that you pay the same amount of interest no matter how much you pay or when you pay. There is no such thing as a principal reduction in any ordinary sense. Your original amortization schedule happens no matter what your behavior is. If you had a precomputed contract, then if you were supposed to owe $1000 in interest in January 2020, then no matter what you do, except paying the loan off, you will owe $1,000 in interest in January. Even you had paid the loan down to one penny; you would still owe $1000 in interest.



                                        Get your contract, deed of trust or mortgage out and read them. Get a printout of recent payments. That will give you a hint as to how many days are being used in a month and in a year. The best indicator is February. If the actual number of days is used then it will be a low interest month. If it is 30/360 it will behave differently. Most U.S. states require precomputed contracts to be spelled out in Truth-In-Lending statement or consumer finance protection statement. Prepayment penalties will be spelled out in multiple places.



                                        Finally, there have existed, I am not sure if they still exist, contracts that do not permit prepayment. Partial payments may go to the escrow account or sit out as an unapplied credit waiting for the rest of the money to complete a full payment amount. The money would just sit there doing nothing until it accumulated enough to be a full payment. Then it would be applied when that payment came due.



                                        Outside the United States, there are a number of interest calculation structures that are not used, nor are they similar to those used in the United States.



                                        Simple interest is almost never used in the United States and is banned in some jurisdictions for mortgages.



                                        EDIT
                                        One additional thing, separate out any principal reduction and clearly mark it principal reduction. If you do not, it may be applied to something else. I might pay it in person.



                                        If I had any concerns, I would do a small principal reduction and see how it affected loan behavior.



                                        From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments of a certain amount on a certain date. Unless it says otherwise, you did not sign a contract allowing you to vary your behavior from the stated terms.






                                        share|improve this answer
















                                        The answer will, in part, depend on the country you are in, in part, on the actual terms and conditions of your contract, and in part, on the regulatory structure the lender is required to operate under.



                                        Having worked in this area for a segment of my life. None of us can actually tell you the answer.



                                        For a scheduled balance loan in the United States, yes, that is approximately how it would work if you paid precisely on the due date. I can think of contracts where that would not be true though you no longer see them in much use in the United States.



                                        The reason it may not work that way is that you may have a prepayment penalty, and you may not have the correct number of days in the calculation. A prepayment penalty may reduce the amount that goes to the principal. Also, some places have 360 day years and 30 day months while others have actual days in the actual year, and some have actual days in a 365 day year with no leap days.



                                        I would tell you to see your loan officer, but they most likely have no idea. Their job is sales. They rarely have back-office knowledge because it isn't their job.



                                        There are contracts, rare now in the United States, where the interest is precomputed so that you pay the same amount of interest no matter how much you pay or when you pay. There is no such thing as a principal reduction in any ordinary sense. Your original amortization schedule happens no matter what your behavior is. If you had a precomputed contract, then if you were supposed to owe $1000 in interest in January 2020, then no matter what you do, except paying the loan off, you will owe $1,000 in interest in January. Even you had paid the loan down to one penny; you would still owe $1000 in interest.



                                        Get your contract, deed of trust or mortgage out and read them. Get a printout of recent payments. That will give you a hint as to how many days are being used in a month and in a year. The best indicator is February. If the actual number of days is used then it will be a low interest month. If it is 30/360 it will behave differently. Most U.S. states require precomputed contracts to be spelled out in Truth-In-Lending statement or consumer finance protection statement. Prepayment penalties will be spelled out in multiple places.



                                        Finally, there have existed, I am not sure if they still exist, contracts that do not permit prepayment. Partial payments may go to the escrow account or sit out as an unapplied credit waiting for the rest of the money to complete a full payment amount. The money would just sit there doing nothing until it accumulated enough to be a full payment. Then it would be applied when that payment came due.



                                        Outside the United States, there are a number of interest calculation structures that are not used, nor are they similar to those used in the United States.



                                        Simple interest is almost never used in the United States and is banned in some jurisdictions for mortgages.



                                        EDIT
                                        One additional thing, separate out any principal reduction and clearly mark it principal reduction. If you do not, it may be applied to something else. I might pay it in person.



                                        If I had any concerns, I would do a small principal reduction and see how it affected loan behavior.



                                        From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments of a certain amount on a certain date. Unless it says otherwise, you did not sign a contract allowing you to vary your behavior from the stated terms.







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                                          "From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments". That's not true.

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                                          "From the bank's point of view, you signed a contract to pay 360 payments". That's not true.

                                          – RonJohn
                                          8 hours ago








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