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A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar has this example sentence:




あの人はいい人はいい人だったけれど頑固だったね。

"He was indeed a good person, but he was stubborn, wasn't he?"




What is the purpose of the "いい人は"? It reads to me as redundant: "That person. A good person. Was a good person. although sure was stubborn, eh?."



Whether I leave it out or in Google Translate gives me the same translation with slightly different wording.



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    That looks a lot like a typo. Also, never use Google Translate to try to understand nuance. Google Translate has been known to change translations based on how many newlines come after the end of a paragraph. It's just not trustworthy.

    – Eiríkr Útlendi
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  • Perhaps it’s a typo but they also spelled it out in romaji.

    – John K
    7 hours ago






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    I feel like I've seen いい人はいい人 before, but a native I asked said that だった coming after it sounds strange.

    – Leebo
    5 hours ago











  • It seems a tautology...

    – kimi Tanaka
    5 hours ago







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    Eiríkr, 今回はタイポじゃないですね・・・ 以前にこんなのがありましたけど: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/68704/9831

    – Chocolate
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A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar has this example sentence:




あの人はいい人はいい人だったけれど頑固だったね。

"He was indeed a good person, but he was stubborn, wasn't he?"




What is the purpose of the "いい人は"? It reads to me as redundant: "That person. A good person. Was a good person. although sure was stubborn, eh?."



Whether I leave it out or in Google Translate gives me the same translation with slightly different wording.



What is being emphasized by putting it in?










share|improve this question





















  • 3





    That looks a lot like a typo. Also, never use Google Translate to try to understand nuance. Google Translate has been known to change translations based on how many newlines come after the end of a paragraph. It's just not trustworthy.

    – Eiríkr Útlendi
    7 hours ago











  • Perhaps it’s a typo but they also spelled it out in romaji.

    – John K
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    I feel like I've seen いい人はいい人 before, but a native I asked said that だった coming after it sounds strange.

    – Leebo
    5 hours ago











  • It seems a tautology...

    – kimi Tanaka
    5 hours ago







  • 2





    Eiríkr, 今回はタイポじゃないですね・・・ 以前にこんなのがありましたけど: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/68704/9831

    – Chocolate
    2 hours ago














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A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar has this example sentence:




あの人はいい人はいい人だったけれど頑固だったね。

"He was indeed a good person, but he was stubborn, wasn't he?"




What is the purpose of the "いい人は"? It reads to me as redundant: "That person. A good person. Was a good person. although sure was stubborn, eh?."



Whether I leave it out or in Google Translate gives me the same translation with slightly different wording.



What is being emphasized by putting it in?










share|improve this question














A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar has this example sentence:




あの人はいい人はいい人だったけれど頑固だったね。

"He was indeed a good person, but he was stubborn, wasn't he?"




What is the purpose of the "いい人は"? It reads to me as redundant: "That person. A good person. Was a good person. although sure was stubborn, eh?."



Whether I leave it out or in Google Translate gives me the same translation with slightly different wording.



What is being emphasized by putting it in?







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    That looks a lot like a typo. Also, never use Google Translate to try to understand nuance. Google Translate has been known to change translations based on how many newlines come after the end of a paragraph. It's just not trustworthy.

    – Eiríkr Útlendi
    7 hours ago











  • Perhaps it’s a typo but they also spelled it out in romaji.

    – John K
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    I feel like I've seen いい人はいい人 before, but a native I asked said that だった coming after it sounds strange.

    – Leebo
    5 hours ago











  • It seems a tautology...

    – kimi Tanaka
    5 hours ago







  • 2





    Eiríkr, 今回はタイポじゃないですね・・・ 以前にこんなのがありましたけど: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/68704/9831

    – Chocolate
    2 hours ago













  • 3





    That looks a lot like a typo. Also, never use Google Translate to try to understand nuance. Google Translate has been known to change translations based on how many newlines come after the end of a paragraph. It's just not trustworthy.

    – Eiríkr Útlendi
    7 hours ago











  • Perhaps it’s a typo but they also spelled it out in romaji.

    – John K
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    I feel like I've seen いい人はいい人 before, but a native I asked said that だった coming after it sounds strange.

    – Leebo
    5 hours ago











  • It seems a tautology...

    – kimi Tanaka
    5 hours ago







  • 2





    Eiríkr, 今回はタイポじゃないですね・・・ 以前にこんなのがありましたけど: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/68704/9831

    – Chocolate
    2 hours ago








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That looks a lot like a typo. Also, never use Google Translate to try to understand nuance. Google Translate has been known to change translations based on how many newlines come after the end of a paragraph. It's just not trustworthy.

– Eiríkr Útlendi
7 hours ago





That looks a lot like a typo. Also, never use Google Translate to try to understand nuance. Google Translate has been known to change translations based on how many newlines come after the end of a paragraph. It's just not trustworthy.

– Eiríkr Útlendi
7 hours ago













Perhaps it’s a typo but they also spelled it out in romaji.

– John K
7 hours ago





Perhaps it’s a typo but they also spelled it out in romaji.

– John K
7 hours ago




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1





I feel like I've seen いい人はいい人 before, but a native I asked said that だった coming after it sounds strange.

– Leebo
5 hours ago





I feel like I've seen いい人はいい人 before, but a native I asked said that だった coming after it sounds strange.

– Leebo
5 hours ago













It seems a tautology...

– kimi Tanaka
5 hours ago






It seems a tautology...

– kimi Tanaka
5 hours ago





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2





Eiríkr, 今回はタイポじゃないですね・・・ 以前にこんなのがありましたけど: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/68704/9831

– Chocolate
2 hours ago






Eiríkr, 今回はタイポじゃないですね・・・ 以前にこんなのがありましたけど: japanese.stackexchange.com/q/68704/9831

– Chocolate
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Repeating a word using は is a way to emphasize something. There are several patterns.




  • X + は + X + が/けど/けれど works like "indeed ~ but ~" or "it's true that ~ but ~". X can be an adjective, a noun or a verb (usually used with に). See: What is the meaning of 「読むには読んだ」? and Need help with understanding X ことは X construction




    • おいしいはおいしいけど、量が少ない。

    • この問題は簡単は簡単ですけど、時間はかかります。

    • 彼女は学生は学生ですが、すでに2つの会社の社長でもあります。

    • すべて売るには売ったが、利益はほとんどなかった。

    • 彼はいい人はいい人ですよ。

      He is a nice guy, well, at least. (sometimes けど/が and the following part may be omitted; this implies there is something negative untold)




  • N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) as a predicate works just like English "a rule is a rule", etc.




    • たとえ理不尽でも、ルールはルールです。

    • ミスはミスだ、認めて謝罪しよう。

    • 駄目なものは駄目だ。

      No means no.

    • 運がよかったが、勝ちは勝ちだ。




  • By extension, N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) sometimes means "N is different" or "N is an exception".




    • 彼は彼ですし。 Well, he is not like us.

    • (idiom) それはそれです。 That's another story.

    • (idiom) これはこれ、それはそれ。 They are irrelevant.




  • N + は + N + で (N: noun) means "in its own way".
    See: What is the meaning of あいつはあいつで?




    • これはこれでおいしい。

    • 彼女は彼女であなたのことを心配しています。

    • 今日も忙しかったが、明日は明日で忙しい。







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    Repeating a word using は is a way to emphasize something. There are several patterns.




    • X + は + X + が/けど/けれど works like "indeed ~ but ~" or "it's true that ~ but ~". X can be an adjective, a noun or a verb (usually used with に). See: What is the meaning of 「読むには読んだ」? and Need help with understanding X ことは X construction




      • おいしいはおいしいけど、量が少ない。

      • この問題は簡単は簡単ですけど、時間はかかります。

      • 彼女は学生は学生ですが、すでに2つの会社の社長でもあります。

      • すべて売るには売ったが、利益はほとんどなかった。

      • 彼はいい人はいい人ですよ。

        He is a nice guy, well, at least. (sometimes けど/が and the following part may be omitted; this implies there is something negative untold)




    • N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) as a predicate works just like English "a rule is a rule", etc.




      • たとえ理不尽でも、ルールはルールです。

      • ミスはミスだ、認めて謝罪しよう。

      • 駄目なものは駄目だ。

        No means no.

      • 運がよかったが、勝ちは勝ちだ。




    • By extension, N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) sometimes means "N is different" or "N is an exception".




      • 彼は彼ですし。 Well, he is not like us.

      • (idiom) それはそれです。 That's another story.

      • (idiom) これはこれ、それはそれ。 They are irrelevant.




    • N + は + N + で (N: noun) means "in its own way".
      See: What is the meaning of あいつはあいつで?




      • これはこれでおいしい。

      • 彼女は彼女であなたのことを心配しています。

      • 今日も忙しかったが、明日は明日で忙しい。







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      Repeating a word using は is a way to emphasize something. There are several patterns.




      • X + は + X + が/けど/けれど works like "indeed ~ but ~" or "it's true that ~ but ~". X can be an adjective, a noun or a verb (usually used with に). See: What is the meaning of 「読むには読んだ」? and Need help with understanding X ことは X construction




        • おいしいはおいしいけど、量が少ない。

        • この問題は簡単は簡単ですけど、時間はかかります。

        • 彼女は学生は学生ですが、すでに2つの会社の社長でもあります。

        • すべて売るには売ったが、利益はほとんどなかった。

        • 彼はいい人はいい人ですよ。

          He is a nice guy, well, at least. (sometimes けど/が and the following part may be omitted; this implies there is something negative untold)




      • N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) as a predicate works just like English "a rule is a rule", etc.




        • たとえ理不尽でも、ルールはルールです。

        • ミスはミスだ、認めて謝罪しよう。

        • 駄目なものは駄目だ。

          No means no.

        • 運がよかったが、勝ちは勝ちだ。




      • By extension, N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) sometimes means "N is different" or "N is an exception".




        • 彼は彼ですし。 Well, he is not like us.

        • (idiom) それはそれです。 That's another story.

        • (idiom) これはこれ、それはそれ。 They are irrelevant.




      • N + は + N + で (N: noun) means "in its own way".
        See: What is the meaning of あいつはあいつで?




        • これはこれでおいしい。

        • 彼女は彼女であなたのことを心配しています。

        • 今日も忙しかったが、明日は明日で忙しい。







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        Repeating a word using は is a way to emphasize something. There are several patterns.




        • X + は + X + が/けど/けれど works like "indeed ~ but ~" or "it's true that ~ but ~". X can be an adjective, a noun or a verb (usually used with に). See: What is the meaning of 「読むには読んだ」? and Need help with understanding X ことは X construction




          • おいしいはおいしいけど、量が少ない。

          • この問題は簡単は簡単ですけど、時間はかかります。

          • 彼女は学生は学生ですが、すでに2つの会社の社長でもあります。

          • すべて売るには売ったが、利益はほとんどなかった。

          • 彼はいい人はいい人ですよ。

            He is a nice guy, well, at least. (sometimes けど/が and the following part may be omitted; this implies there is something negative untold)




        • N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) as a predicate works just like English "a rule is a rule", etc.




          • たとえ理不尽でも、ルールはルールです。

          • ミスはミスだ、認めて謝罪しよう。

          • 駄目なものは駄目だ。

            No means no.

          • 運がよかったが、勝ちは勝ちだ。




        • By extension, N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) sometimes means "N is different" or "N is an exception".




          • 彼は彼ですし。 Well, he is not like us.

          • (idiom) それはそれです。 That's another story.

          • (idiom) これはこれ、それはそれ。 They are irrelevant.




        • N + は + N + で (N: noun) means "in its own way".
          See: What is the meaning of あいつはあいつで?




          • これはこれでおいしい。

          • 彼女は彼女であなたのことを心配しています。

          • 今日も忙しかったが、明日は明日で忙しい。







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        Repeating a word using は is a way to emphasize something. There are several patterns.




        • X + は + X + が/けど/けれど works like "indeed ~ but ~" or "it's true that ~ but ~". X can be an adjective, a noun or a verb (usually used with に). See: What is the meaning of 「読むには読んだ」? and Need help with understanding X ことは X construction




          • おいしいはおいしいけど、量が少ない。

          • この問題は簡単は簡単ですけど、時間はかかります。

          • 彼女は学生は学生ですが、すでに2つの会社の社長でもあります。

          • すべて売るには売ったが、利益はほとんどなかった。

          • 彼はいい人はいい人ですよ。

            He is a nice guy, well, at least. (sometimes けど/が and the following part may be omitted; this implies there is something negative untold)




        • N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) as a predicate works just like English "a rule is a rule", etc.




          • たとえ理不尽でも、ルールはルールです。

          • ミスはミスだ、認めて謝罪しよう。

          • 駄目なものは駄目だ。

            No means no.

          • 運がよかったが、勝ちは勝ちだ。




        • By extension, N + は + N + だ/です (N: noun) sometimes means "N is different" or "N is an exception".




          • 彼は彼ですし。 Well, he is not like us.

          • (idiom) それはそれです。 That's another story.

          • (idiom) これはこれ、それはそれ。 They are irrelevant.




        • N + は + N + で (N: noun) means "in its own way".
          See: What is the meaning of あいつはあいつで?




          • これはこれでおいしい。

          • 彼女は彼女であなたのことを心配しています。

          • 今日も忙しかったが、明日は明日で忙しい。








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