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is there a way to design a linked graphic in Illustrator with some kind of invisibility cloak in the layers.



Let me explain.
Let's say I want to reuse a sketch like thisenter image description here



Where in fact, the rectangle fill color is transparent, and I don't really want to have a purple fill color for the ellipse, but I want it to hide the path of the rectangle.



Then, I want to be able to reuse it on some backgrounds like this:enter image description here



In order to reach the final result enter image description here



The thing is: I don't want the ellipse to really be purple in the image that I save in my Illustrator Cloud library, I just want it to adapt its color to whatever is beneath the rectangle layer



That way, if I have an orange background, I want to immediately (without modification of the link) reach the following resultenter image description here



instead of this (my current achievement) enter image description here



Is it possible without embedding the image nor destroying the shapes?
Really, as if the ellipse was acting as an invisibility cloak for the rectangle.










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    is there a way to design a linked graphic in Illustrator with some kind of invisibility cloak in the layers.



    Let me explain.
    Let's say I want to reuse a sketch like thisenter image description here



    Where in fact, the rectangle fill color is transparent, and I don't really want to have a purple fill color for the ellipse, but I want it to hide the path of the rectangle.



    Then, I want to be able to reuse it on some backgrounds like this:enter image description here



    In order to reach the final result enter image description here



    The thing is: I don't want the ellipse to really be purple in the image that I save in my Illustrator Cloud library, I just want it to adapt its color to whatever is beneath the rectangle layer



    That way, if I have an orange background, I want to immediately (without modification of the link) reach the following resultenter image description here



    instead of this (my current achievement) enter image description here



    Is it possible without embedding the image nor destroying the shapes?
    Really, as if the ellipse was acting as an invisibility cloak for the rectangle.










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      is there a way to design a linked graphic in Illustrator with some kind of invisibility cloak in the layers.



      Let me explain.
      Let's say I want to reuse a sketch like thisenter image description here



      Where in fact, the rectangle fill color is transparent, and I don't really want to have a purple fill color for the ellipse, but I want it to hide the path of the rectangle.



      Then, I want to be able to reuse it on some backgrounds like this:enter image description here



      In order to reach the final result enter image description here



      The thing is: I don't want the ellipse to really be purple in the image that I save in my Illustrator Cloud library, I just want it to adapt its color to whatever is beneath the rectangle layer



      That way, if I have an orange background, I want to immediately (without modification of the link) reach the following resultenter image description here



      instead of this (my current achievement) enter image description here



      Is it possible without embedding the image nor destroying the shapes?
      Really, as if the ellipse was acting as an invisibility cloak for the rectangle.










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      is there a way to design a linked graphic in Illustrator with some kind of invisibility cloak in the layers.



      Let me explain.
      Let's say I want to reuse a sketch like thisenter image description here



      Where in fact, the rectangle fill color is transparent, and I don't really want to have a purple fill color for the ellipse, but I want it to hide the path of the rectangle.



      Then, I want to be able to reuse it on some backgrounds like this:enter image description here



      In order to reach the final result enter image description here



      The thing is: I don't want the ellipse to really be purple in the image that I save in my Illustrator Cloud library, I just want it to adapt its color to whatever is beneath the rectangle layer



      That way, if I have an orange background, I want to immediately (without modification of the link) reach the following resultenter image description here



      instead of this (my current achievement) enter image description here



      Is it possible without embedding the image nor destroying the shapes?
      Really, as if the ellipse was acting as an invisibility cloak for the rectangle.







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          Use knockout groups. The benefit being that knockout groups is that you can not just hide pained areas you can also partially hide things, and you get to affect exactly how deep in the stack the effect knocks out and whether it knocks out fill or stroke or BOTH. It is also usable inside effects which makes it far more flexible than shaper.



          To use knockout groups you need two things



          1. a group marked as knockout in the transparency panel.

          2. any transparency applied in that group now eats out of the group. So if set a fill 100% transparent then you get the effect you described.





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          • Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

            – Myoch
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          It certainly is possible. Try this method.



          1. Ensure that both the objects (the rectangle and ellipse) have a stroke, but no fill.


          2. Select both objects, and choose the Shaper Tool in the toolbox (or shift+N)


          3. Draw a zig zag line across the line you wish to delete


          4. Move the Shaper Group over a rectangle filled with the colour of your choice


          The nice thing about this method is that it's non-destructive. You can double click the Shaper Group to enter it in isolation mode, and move the ellipse or rectangle around. Double click outside the group to exit isolation mode.



          enter image description here



          I think Adobe should have probably called this the "Invisibility Cloaking Device" instead of the Shaper Tool. It would have been so much cooler!






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          • that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

            – Luciano
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            Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

            – ErickP
            9 hours ago











          • @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

            – Billy Kerr
            9 hours ago











          • @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

            – joojaa
            9 hours ago






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            @ErickP not shape builder tool, shaper tool

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          Use knockout groups. The benefit being that knockout groups is that you can not just hide pained areas you can also partially hide things, and you get to affect exactly how deep in the stack the effect knocks out and whether it knocks out fill or stroke or BOTH. It is also usable inside effects which makes it far more flexible than shaper.



          To use knockout groups you need two things



          1. a group marked as knockout in the transparency panel.

          2. any transparency applied in that group now eats out of the group. So if set a fill 100% transparent then you get the effect you described.





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          • Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

            – Myoch
            8 hours ago















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          Use knockout groups. The benefit being that knockout groups is that you can not just hide pained areas you can also partially hide things, and you get to affect exactly how deep in the stack the effect knocks out and whether it knocks out fill or stroke or BOTH. It is also usable inside effects which makes it far more flexible than shaper.



          To use knockout groups you need two things



          1. a group marked as knockout in the transparency panel.

          2. any transparency applied in that group now eats out of the group. So if set a fill 100% transparent then you get the effect you described.





          share|improve this answer























          • Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

            – Myoch
            8 hours ago













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          Use knockout groups. The benefit being that knockout groups is that you can not just hide pained areas you can also partially hide things, and you get to affect exactly how deep in the stack the effect knocks out and whether it knocks out fill or stroke or BOTH. It is also usable inside effects which makes it far more flexible than shaper.



          To use knockout groups you need two things



          1. a group marked as knockout in the transparency panel.

          2. any transparency applied in that group now eats out of the group. So if set a fill 100% transparent then you get the effect you described.





          share|improve this answer













          Use knockout groups. The benefit being that knockout groups is that you can not just hide pained areas you can also partially hide things, and you get to affect exactly how deep in the stack the effect knocks out and whether it knocks out fill or stroke or BOTH. It is also usable inside effects which makes it far more flexible than shaper.



          To use knockout groups you need two things



          1. a group marked as knockout in the transparency panel.

          2. any transparency applied in that group now eats out of the group. So if set a fill 100% transparent then you get the effect you described.






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          • Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

            – Myoch
            8 hours ago

















          • Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

            – Myoch
            8 hours ago
















          Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

          – Myoch
          8 hours ago





          Thanks, indeed, it is better. Maybe "0% opacity" is better suited than "100% transparency" in Illustrator language, but this solution works way more easily for me, and is more compatible with collaborative work using Creative Cloud.

          – Myoch
          8 hours ago













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          It certainly is possible. Try this method.



          1. Ensure that both the objects (the rectangle and ellipse) have a stroke, but no fill.


          2. Select both objects, and choose the Shaper Tool in the toolbox (or shift+N)


          3. Draw a zig zag line across the line you wish to delete


          4. Move the Shaper Group over a rectangle filled with the colour of your choice


          The nice thing about this method is that it's non-destructive. You can double click the Shaper Group to enter it in isolation mode, and move the ellipse or rectangle around. Double click outside the group to exit isolation mode.



          enter image description here



          I think Adobe should have probably called this the "Invisibility Cloaking Device" instead of the Shaper Tool. It would have been so much cooler!






          share|improve this answer

























          • that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

            – Luciano
            9 hours ago






          • 2





            Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

            – ErickP
            9 hours ago











          • @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

            – Billy Kerr
            9 hours ago











          • @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

            – joojaa
            9 hours ago






          • 1





            @ErickP not shape builder tool, shaper tool

            – joojaa
            8 hours ago















          6














          It certainly is possible. Try this method.



          1. Ensure that both the objects (the rectangle and ellipse) have a stroke, but no fill.


          2. Select both objects, and choose the Shaper Tool in the toolbox (or shift+N)


          3. Draw a zig zag line across the line you wish to delete


          4. Move the Shaper Group over a rectangle filled with the colour of your choice


          The nice thing about this method is that it's non-destructive. You can double click the Shaper Group to enter it in isolation mode, and move the ellipse or rectangle around. Double click outside the group to exit isolation mode.



          enter image description here



          I think Adobe should have probably called this the "Invisibility Cloaking Device" instead of the Shaper Tool. It would have been so much cooler!






          share|improve this answer

























          • that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

            – Luciano
            9 hours ago






          • 2





            Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

            – ErickP
            9 hours ago











          • @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

            – Billy Kerr
            9 hours ago











          • @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

            – joojaa
            9 hours ago






          • 1





            @ErickP not shape builder tool, shaper tool

            – joojaa
            8 hours ago













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          6








          6







          It certainly is possible. Try this method.



          1. Ensure that both the objects (the rectangle and ellipse) have a stroke, but no fill.


          2. Select both objects, and choose the Shaper Tool in the toolbox (or shift+N)


          3. Draw a zig zag line across the line you wish to delete


          4. Move the Shaper Group over a rectangle filled with the colour of your choice


          The nice thing about this method is that it's non-destructive. You can double click the Shaper Group to enter it in isolation mode, and move the ellipse or rectangle around. Double click outside the group to exit isolation mode.



          enter image description here



          I think Adobe should have probably called this the "Invisibility Cloaking Device" instead of the Shaper Tool. It would have been so much cooler!






          share|improve this answer















          It certainly is possible. Try this method.



          1. Ensure that both the objects (the rectangle and ellipse) have a stroke, but no fill.


          2. Select both objects, and choose the Shaper Tool in the toolbox (or shift+N)


          3. Draw a zig zag line across the line you wish to delete


          4. Move the Shaper Group over a rectangle filled with the colour of your choice


          The nice thing about this method is that it's non-destructive. You can double click the Shaper Group to enter it in isolation mode, and move the ellipse or rectangle around. Double click outside the group to exit isolation mode.



          enter image description here



          I think Adobe should have probably called this the "Invisibility Cloaking Device" instead of the Shaper Tool. It would have been so much cooler!







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          • that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

            – Luciano
            9 hours ago






          • 2





            Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

            – ErickP
            9 hours ago











          • @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

            – Billy Kerr
            9 hours ago











          • @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

            – joojaa
            9 hours ago






          • 1





            @ErickP not shape builder tool, shaper tool

            – joojaa
            8 hours ago

















          • that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

            – Luciano
            9 hours ago






          • 2





            Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

            – ErickP
            9 hours ago











          • @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

            – Billy Kerr
            9 hours ago











          • @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

            – joojaa
            9 hours ago






          • 1





            @ErickP not shape builder tool, shaper tool

            – joojaa
            8 hours ago
















          that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

          – Luciano
          9 hours ago





          that's super interesting, I never saw this tool before :)

          – Luciano
          9 hours ago




          2




          2





          Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

          – ErickP
          9 hours ago





          Learn something new every day. I was about to say no and explain the whole minus front method but hell, this is perfect. Thanks for sharing.

          – ErickP
          9 hours ago













          @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

          – Billy Kerr
          9 hours ago





          @Luciano it's fairly new, in Illustrator CC 2018 and later. Not sure when they first released the functionality though. Might have been the 2017 release.

          – Billy Kerr
          9 hours ago













          @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

          – joojaa
          9 hours ago





          @ErickP you can also do this with knockout groups as early as illustrator CS 2

          – joojaa
          9 hours ago




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          @ErickP not shape builder tool, shaper tool

          – joojaa
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