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Does Google Maps take into account hills/inclines for route times?
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I understand that Google Maps works out travel times based on the speed limit for the road and the current traffic on the road. (When selecting the driving function).
When using the cycling/walking function, I assume it works out the travel times by using the average walking pace(~3mph) and the average cycling pace.(~9.6mph)
But does it increase the time if your journey includes a lot of upwards hills, as you would obviously be travelling slower if walking or cycling? And does it decrease the time when there are lots of downwards hills, as you would be travelling quicker (maybe not by foot but definitely on bike)?
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I understand that Google Maps works out travel times based on the speed limit for the road and the current traffic on the road. (When selecting the driving function).
When using the cycling/walking function, I assume it works out the travel times by using the average walking pace(~3mph) and the average cycling pace.(~9.6mph)
But does it increase the time if your journey includes a lot of upwards hills, as you would obviously be travelling slower if walking or cycling? And does it decrease the time when there are lots of downwards hills, as you would be travelling quicker (maybe not by foot but definitely on bike)?
bicycles maps walking
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Google Maps don't have trustable topographical information around the world; maybe the best would be check by yourself
– lucasr300
9 hours ago
Answered on Bicycles in this question bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/44793/…
– AakashM
9 hours ago
@lucasr300 it may not have it everywhere, but it certainly has it in some places, as it shows a graph of the altitude along the way, and includes the total amount of uphill and downhill elevation changes on some (many? most?) routes.
– jcaron
8 hours ago
@jcaron Yes, exactly, I mean just this information may not be trustable. If this is important to you, maybe you will need more accurate information.
– lucasr300
7 hours ago
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I understand that Google Maps works out travel times based on the speed limit for the road and the current traffic on the road. (When selecting the driving function).
When using the cycling/walking function, I assume it works out the travel times by using the average walking pace(~3mph) and the average cycling pace.(~9.6mph)
But does it increase the time if your journey includes a lot of upwards hills, as you would obviously be travelling slower if walking or cycling? And does it decrease the time when there are lots of downwards hills, as you would be travelling quicker (maybe not by foot but definitely on bike)?
bicycles maps walking
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I understand that Google Maps works out travel times based on the speed limit for the road and the current traffic on the road. (When selecting the driving function).
When using the cycling/walking function, I assume it works out the travel times by using the average walking pace(~3mph) and the average cycling pace.(~9.6mph)
But does it increase the time if your journey includes a lot of upwards hills, as you would obviously be travelling slower if walking or cycling? And does it decrease the time when there are lots of downwards hills, as you would be travelling quicker (maybe not by foot but definitely on bike)?
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Google Maps don't have trustable topographical information around the world; maybe the best would be check by yourself
– lucasr300
9 hours ago
Answered on Bicycles in this question bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/44793/…
– AakashM
9 hours ago
@lucasr300 it may not have it everywhere, but it certainly has it in some places, as it shows a graph of the altitude along the way, and includes the total amount of uphill and downhill elevation changes on some (many? most?) routes.
– jcaron
8 hours ago
@jcaron Yes, exactly, I mean just this information may not be trustable. If this is important to you, maybe you will need more accurate information.
– lucasr300
7 hours ago
add a comment |
Google Maps don't have trustable topographical information around the world; maybe the best would be check by yourself
– lucasr300
9 hours ago
Answered on Bicycles in this question bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/44793/…
– AakashM
9 hours ago
@lucasr300 it may not have it everywhere, but it certainly has it in some places, as it shows a graph of the altitude along the way, and includes the total amount of uphill and downhill elevation changes on some (many? most?) routes.
– jcaron
8 hours ago
@jcaron Yes, exactly, I mean just this information may not be trustable. If this is important to you, maybe you will need more accurate information.
– lucasr300
7 hours ago
Google Maps don't have trustable topographical information around the world; maybe the best would be check by yourself
– lucasr300
9 hours ago
Google Maps don't have trustable topographical information around the world; maybe the best would be check by yourself
– lucasr300
9 hours ago
Answered on Bicycles in this question bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/44793/…
– AakashM
9 hours ago
Answered on Bicycles in this question bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/44793/…
– AakashM
9 hours ago
@lucasr300 it may not have it everywhere, but it certainly has it in some places, as it shows a graph of the altitude along the way, and includes the total amount of uphill and downhill elevation changes on some (many? most?) routes.
– jcaron
8 hours ago
@lucasr300 it may not have it everywhere, but it certainly has it in some places, as it shows a graph of the altitude along the way, and includes the total amount of uphill and downhill elevation changes on some (many? most?) routes.
– jcaron
8 hours ago
@jcaron Yes, exactly, I mean just this information may not be trustable. If this is important to you, maybe you will need more accurate information.
– lucasr300
7 hours ago
@jcaron Yes, exactly, I mean just this information may not be trustable. If this is important to you, maybe you will need more accurate information.
– lucasr300
7 hours ago
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Surprisingly, it appears that the answer is YES, Google Maps does make a distinction between uphill and downhill.
I routed out a couple of bicycle rides from my home (in Germany) to a city either 90 km away (with a 700 m climb) or 60 km away (with a 1000 m climb), depending on the route taken. I then reversed both routes.
In both cases, Google Maps shows a noticeably shorter ride time for the downhill direction than the uphill one.
The 60 km route is 5h1m going up or 4h24m going down. The longer route is listed as 5h34m going up or 4h48m going down.
Of course, Google Maps doesn't know exactly how fast I ride, but I would guess you can take the percentage difference between the uphill and downhill and do some multiplication to figure out your likely actual time based on your average speed.
It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
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Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
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At least for bikes it does (assuming the topographical information mentioned in the comment is available).
I just checked with two cycling routes near my home, both 4,2km long according to Google, one almost flat, the other with a climb towards the end (obviously going downhill the other direction). Result:
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly downhill: 14min
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly uphill: 15min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km), but a climb towards the end (1,2km): 17min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km) and going downhill at the beginning (1,2km): 12min
If these numbers are of any relevance certainly depends on your bike and your fitness level (and probably some other factors, too). I hate riding uphill and my bike isn't made for it, so whenever I had to "cycle" up the hill at the end of no. 3 I would get off my bike and push it, certainly losing more than two minutes compared to a flat route. The same goes for downhill, I doubt I was ever letting my bike run so fast I would acutally gain two minutes...
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Surprisingly, it appears that the answer is YES, Google Maps does make a distinction between uphill and downhill.
I routed out a couple of bicycle rides from my home (in Germany) to a city either 90 km away (with a 700 m climb) or 60 km away (with a 1000 m climb), depending on the route taken. I then reversed both routes.
In both cases, Google Maps shows a noticeably shorter ride time for the downhill direction than the uphill one.
The 60 km route is 5h1m going up or 4h24m going down. The longer route is listed as 5h34m going up or 4h48m going down.
Of course, Google Maps doesn't know exactly how fast I ride, but I would guess you can take the percentage difference between the uphill and downhill and do some multiplication to figure out your likely actual time based on your average speed.
It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
1
Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
add a comment |
Surprisingly, it appears that the answer is YES, Google Maps does make a distinction between uphill and downhill.
I routed out a couple of bicycle rides from my home (in Germany) to a city either 90 km away (with a 700 m climb) or 60 km away (with a 1000 m climb), depending on the route taken. I then reversed both routes.
In both cases, Google Maps shows a noticeably shorter ride time for the downhill direction than the uphill one.
The 60 km route is 5h1m going up or 4h24m going down. The longer route is listed as 5h34m going up or 4h48m going down.
Of course, Google Maps doesn't know exactly how fast I ride, but I would guess you can take the percentage difference between the uphill and downhill and do some multiplication to figure out your likely actual time based on your average speed.
It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
1
Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
add a comment |
Surprisingly, it appears that the answer is YES, Google Maps does make a distinction between uphill and downhill.
I routed out a couple of bicycle rides from my home (in Germany) to a city either 90 km away (with a 700 m climb) or 60 km away (with a 1000 m climb), depending on the route taken. I then reversed both routes.
In both cases, Google Maps shows a noticeably shorter ride time for the downhill direction than the uphill one.
The 60 km route is 5h1m going up or 4h24m going down. The longer route is listed as 5h34m going up or 4h48m going down.
Of course, Google Maps doesn't know exactly how fast I ride, but I would guess you can take the percentage difference between the uphill and downhill and do some multiplication to figure out your likely actual time based on your average speed.
Surprisingly, it appears that the answer is YES, Google Maps does make a distinction between uphill and downhill.
I routed out a couple of bicycle rides from my home (in Germany) to a city either 90 km away (with a 700 m climb) or 60 km away (with a 1000 m climb), depending on the route taken. I then reversed both routes.
In both cases, Google Maps shows a noticeably shorter ride time for the downhill direction than the uphill one.
The 60 km route is 5h1m going up or 4h24m going down. The longer route is listed as 5h34m going up or 4h48m going down.
Of course, Google Maps doesn't know exactly how fast I ride, but I would guess you can take the percentage difference between the uphill and downhill and do some multiplication to figure out your likely actual time based on your average speed.
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It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
1
Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
add a comment |
It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
1
Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
It would be interested to understand if the time added on for the uphill is calculated from the angle of the incline or just Google maps being aware that the altitude changes but not of that the incline angle. Obviously if the angle was shallow youd be able to climb 1000m quicker than if it was steep
– JackU
8 hours ago
1
1
Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
Google Maps not only consider elevation changes when calculating travel times, but tries at least to a certain extent to avoid elevation changes when using the route planner. If a flat detour is avaialble, my experience is that the route planner often suggest to go around the elevation change instead of up and down, even if the distance is slightly greater.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
6 hours ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
I wonder if feedback from location-enabled devices also factors into the calculation. For driving directions, for instance, Google Maps won't know that a particular road is riddled with potholes, or always has deer frolicking around the embankment, but they will know that a lot of cars are going 5mph under the speed limit instead of 10 over it, and on my anecdotal experience, seem to adjust their time estimates accordingly.
– choster
1 hour ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
@choster IMHO with bikes, such feedback is impractical. With cars, you can generally assume that drivers want to get to the destination in reasonable time and if they happen to be driving slow, they are limited by road conditions. With cyclists, you never know if they are more tired than usual, or just choose to drive slowly and admire the view.
– IMil
34 mins ago
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At least for bikes it does (assuming the topographical information mentioned in the comment is available).
I just checked with two cycling routes near my home, both 4,2km long according to Google, one almost flat, the other with a climb towards the end (obviously going downhill the other direction). Result:
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly downhill: 14min
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly uphill: 15min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km), but a climb towards the end (1,2km): 17min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km) and going downhill at the beginning (1,2km): 12min
If these numbers are of any relevance certainly depends on your bike and your fitness level (and probably some other factors, too). I hate riding uphill and my bike isn't made for it, so whenever I had to "cycle" up the hill at the end of no. 3 I would get off my bike and push it, certainly losing more than two minutes compared to a flat route. The same goes for downhill, I doubt I was ever letting my bike run so fast I would acutally gain two minutes...
add a comment |
At least for bikes it does (assuming the topographical information mentioned in the comment is available).
I just checked with two cycling routes near my home, both 4,2km long according to Google, one almost flat, the other with a climb towards the end (obviously going downhill the other direction). Result:
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly downhill: 14min
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly uphill: 15min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km), but a climb towards the end (1,2km): 17min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km) and going downhill at the beginning (1,2km): 12min
If these numbers are of any relevance certainly depends on your bike and your fitness level (and probably some other factors, too). I hate riding uphill and my bike isn't made for it, so whenever I had to "cycle" up the hill at the end of no. 3 I would get off my bike and push it, certainly losing more than two minutes compared to a flat route. The same goes for downhill, I doubt I was ever letting my bike run so fast I would acutally gain two minutes...
add a comment |
At least for bikes it does (assuming the topographical information mentioned in the comment is available).
I just checked with two cycling routes near my home, both 4,2km long according to Google, one almost flat, the other with a climb towards the end (obviously going downhill the other direction). Result:
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly downhill: 14min
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly uphill: 15min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km), but a climb towards the end (1,2km): 17min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km) and going downhill at the beginning (1,2km): 12min
If these numbers are of any relevance certainly depends on your bike and your fitness level (and probably some other factors, too). I hate riding uphill and my bike isn't made for it, so whenever I had to "cycle" up the hill at the end of no. 3 I would get off my bike and push it, certainly losing more than two minutes compared to a flat route. The same goes for downhill, I doubt I was ever letting my bike run so fast I would acutally gain two minutes...
At least for bikes it does (assuming the topographical information mentioned in the comment is available).
I just checked with two cycling routes near my home, both 4,2km long according to Google, one almost flat, the other with a climb towards the end (obviously going downhill the other direction). Result:
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly downhill: 14min
- 4,2km almost flat but slightly uphill: 15min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km), but a climb towards the end (1,2km): 17min
- 4,2km mostly flat (3km) and going downhill at the beginning (1,2km): 12min
If these numbers are of any relevance certainly depends on your bike and your fitness level (and probably some other factors, too). I hate riding uphill and my bike isn't made for it, so whenever I had to "cycle" up the hill at the end of no. 3 I would get off my bike and push it, certainly losing more than two minutes compared to a flat route. The same goes for downhill, I doubt I was ever letting my bike run so fast I would acutally gain two minutes...
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Google Maps don't have trustable topographical information around the world; maybe the best would be check by yourself
– lucasr300
9 hours ago
Answered on Bicycles in this question bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/44793/…
– AakashM
9 hours ago
@lucasr300 it may not have it everywhere, but it certainly has it in some places, as it shows a graph of the altitude along the way, and includes the total amount of uphill and downhill elevation changes on some (many? most?) routes.
– jcaron
8 hours ago
@jcaron Yes, exactly, I mean just this information may not be trustable. If this is important to you, maybe you will need more accurate information.
– lucasr300
7 hours ago