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Etymology of “Talo” (Finnish for “house”). Can it be a cognate of Thalamus?
Pre-Greek θάλασσα “thalassa” and Turkish talazHow do linguists find the etymology?Universal Etymology of WordsDid Georgian ever have a native word for “dolphin”?Etymology of the word “sport”On the etymology of Ankara / Phrygian ἌγκυραOrigin of the word/root 'del'Negation and Pronouns in Finnish
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The word Talo in Finnish means house. According to the wiktionary, it might be etymologically related to talas (boat-shelter).
I was wondering if the word might have a common etymology with Greek Thalassa ("sea") or Thalamos ("bedroom").
I know it might be a long shot, and I know that there is not a known common ancestor of Proto Uralic and Proto Indo-European, but there is a small set of convergent vocabulary (for instance, in the personal pronouns), and I was wondering if this could be the case with this word. Could Talo and Thalamus actually be cognates?
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The word Talo in Finnish means house. According to the wiktionary, it might be etymologically related to talas (boat-shelter).
I was wondering if the word might have a common etymology with Greek Thalassa ("sea") or Thalamos ("bedroom").
I know it might be a long shot, and I know that there is not a known common ancestor of Proto Uralic and Proto Indo-European, but there is a small set of convergent vocabulary (for instance, in the personal pronouns), and I was wondering if this could be the case with this word. Could Talo and Thalamus actually be cognates?
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The word Talo in Finnish means house. According to the wiktionary, it might be etymologically related to talas (boat-shelter).
I was wondering if the word might have a common etymology with Greek Thalassa ("sea") or Thalamos ("bedroom").
I know it might be a long shot, and I know that there is not a known common ancestor of Proto Uralic and Proto Indo-European, but there is a small set of convergent vocabulary (for instance, in the personal pronouns), and I was wondering if this could be the case with this word. Could Talo and Thalamus actually be cognates?
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The word Talo in Finnish means house. According to the wiktionary, it might be etymologically related to talas (boat-shelter).
I was wondering if the word might have a common etymology with Greek Thalassa ("sea") or Thalamos ("bedroom").
I know it might be a long shot, and I know that there is not a known common ancestor of Proto Uralic and Proto Indo-European, but there is a small set of convergent vocabulary (for instance, in the personal pronouns), and I was wondering if this could be the case with this word. Could Talo and Thalamus actually be cognates?
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The problem is that both Greek words are probably not of Indogermanic origin. The case of θάλασσα is pretty clear-cut, the -σσ- cannot be inherited directly from Proto-Indogermanic and must be inherited from a pre-Greek substrate. The case of θάλαμος is less clear, but again a substrate origin is suggested.
The nature of the pre-Greek substrate remains unknown, but a connection to Hurro-Urartian has been proposed.
On the Finnish side it seems that talo lacks cognates in the Uralic languages (the Sami cognates are classified as loans from Finnish), and it is not an obvious loan word. This makes it difficult to track it back in time.
tl;dr With our current knowledge, the null hypothesis (the word forms are just chance coincidences) cannot be disproved.
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See also linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/32076/… on θάλασσα
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The problem is that both Greek words are probably not of Indogermanic origin. The case of θάλασσα is pretty clear-cut, the -σσ- cannot be inherited directly from Proto-Indogermanic and must be inherited from a pre-Greek substrate. The case of θάλαμος is less clear, but again a substrate origin is suggested.
The nature of the pre-Greek substrate remains unknown, but a connection to Hurro-Urartian has been proposed.
On the Finnish side it seems that talo lacks cognates in the Uralic languages (the Sami cognates are classified as loans from Finnish), and it is not an obvious loan word. This makes it difficult to track it back in time.
tl;dr With our current knowledge, the null hypothesis (the word forms are just chance coincidences) cannot be disproved.
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See also linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/32076/… on θάλασσα
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The problem is that both Greek words are probably not of Indogermanic origin. The case of θάλασσα is pretty clear-cut, the -σσ- cannot be inherited directly from Proto-Indogermanic and must be inherited from a pre-Greek substrate. The case of θάλαμος is less clear, but again a substrate origin is suggested.
The nature of the pre-Greek substrate remains unknown, but a connection to Hurro-Urartian has been proposed.
On the Finnish side it seems that talo lacks cognates in the Uralic languages (the Sami cognates are classified as loans from Finnish), and it is not an obvious loan word. This makes it difficult to track it back in time.
tl;dr With our current knowledge, the null hypothesis (the word forms are just chance coincidences) cannot be disproved.
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The problem is that both Greek words are probably not of Indogermanic origin. The case of θάλασσα is pretty clear-cut, the -σσ- cannot be inherited directly from Proto-Indogermanic and must be inherited from a pre-Greek substrate. The case of θάλαμος is less clear, but again a substrate origin is suggested.
The nature of the pre-Greek substrate remains unknown, but a connection to Hurro-Urartian has been proposed.
On the Finnish side it seems that talo lacks cognates in the Uralic languages (the Sami cognates are classified as loans from Finnish), and it is not an obvious loan word. This makes it difficult to track it back in time.
tl;dr With our current knowledge, the null hypothesis (the word forms are just chance coincidences) cannot be disproved.
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The problem is that both Greek words are probably not of Indogermanic origin. The case of θάλασσα is pretty clear-cut, the -σσ- cannot be inherited directly from Proto-Indogermanic and must be inherited from a pre-Greek substrate. The case of θάλαμος is less clear, but again a substrate origin is suggested.
The nature of the pre-Greek substrate remains unknown, but a connection to Hurro-Urartian has been proposed.
On the Finnish side it seems that talo lacks cognates in the Uralic languages (the Sami cognates are classified as loans from Finnish), and it is not an obvious loan word. This makes it difficult to track it back in time.
tl;dr With our current knowledge, the null hypothesis (the word forms are just chance coincidences) cannot be disproved.
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