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Applying a Taylor series WITH RESPECT TO … and AROUND…


Taylor / Maclaurin series expansion origin.Another question about $x_0$ in the Taylor seriesLimitations of fractional derivative approximation with Taylor seriesConvergence of a Taylor series expansion involving $tan^-1$Understanding why the Maclaurin series for $sin theta$ converges to $sin theta$ and not something elseIto's lemma and taylor seriesUse the Taylor series for sin(x) to find a Taylor series for $f(x) = p(sin x) $ around point x=0, where $p(x) = 4x^3 - 3x. $Limits with Taylor seriesCauchy product of two different Taylor series $e^x$ and $cos x$Taylor expansion with two variables






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My question is what does it mean




applying a Taylor series with respect to something and around a point.




What is the difference?



Please explain it with the following example:



Apply a Taylor series expansion to $r'$ with respect to $a/r$ around $0$.
Only until the squared terms (inclusive).



Where $$r'^2 = a^2 + r^2 +2arsin(theta)cos(alpha-phi)$$










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    This is a polynomial in $a$, so its Taylor series is fairly straightforward.
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My question is what does it mean




applying a Taylor series with respect to something and around a point.




What is the difference?



Please explain it with the following example:



Apply a Taylor series expansion to $r'$ with respect to $a/r$ around $0$.
Only until the squared terms (inclusive).



Where $$r'^2 = a^2 + r^2 +2arsin(theta)cos(alpha-phi)$$










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    This is a polynomial in $a$, so its Taylor series is fairly straightforward.
    $endgroup$
    – eyeballfrog
    8 hours ago










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    As far as I know, they mean the same thing.
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    – The Count
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$begingroup$


My question is what does it mean




applying a Taylor series with respect to something and around a point.




What is the difference?



Please explain it with the following example:



Apply a Taylor series expansion to $r'$ with respect to $a/r$ around $0$.
Only until the squared terms (inclusive).



Where $$r'^2 = a^2 + r^2 +2arsin(theta)cos(alpha-phi)$$










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My question is what does it mean




applying a Taylor series with respect to something and around a point.




What is the difference?



Please explain it with the following example:



Apply a Taylor series expansion to $r'$ with respect to $a/r$ around $0$.
Only until the squared terms (inclusive).



Where $$r'^2 = a^2 + r^2 +2arsin(theta)cos(alpha-phi)$$







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  • $begingroup$
    This is a polynomial in $a$, so its Taylor series is fairly straightforward.
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    – eyeballfrog
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    As far as I know, they mean the same thing.
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    – The Count
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  • $begingroup$
    This is a polynomial in $a$, so its Taylor series is fairly straightforward.
    $endgroup$
    – eyeballfrog
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    As far as I know, they mean the same thing.
    $endgroup$
    – The Count
    4 hours ago















$begingroup$
This is a polynomial in $a$, so its Taylor series is fairly straightforward.
$endgroup$
– eyeballfrog
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
This is a polynomial in $a$, so its Taylor series is fairly straightforward.
$endgroup$
– eyeballfrog
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
As far as I know, they mean the same thing.
$endgroup$
– The Count
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As far as I know, they mean the same thing.
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– The Count
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For an easier example, let $f(x) = sin(x)$. The Taylor series expansion of (or, I guess, in your above language 'to') $f$ with respect to $x$ around $0$ is the familar
$$ f(x) = x - fracx^33! + fracx^55! - fracx^77! + dots$$



So you want to rewrite $r'$ in terms of $a/r$ and expand around 0.






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    thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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The "with respect to" specifies the variable whose powers appear in the series. "around" is the point near which you want an approximation. So your answer will look like
$$
c_o + c_1(a/r - 0) + c_2(a/r - 0)^2 + text higher order terms.
$$



(Of course the zeroes go away. I just put them in to illustrate "around $0$".)






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    thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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    by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
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$begingroup$

For an easier example, let $f(x) = sin(x)$. The Taylor series expansion of (or, I guess, in your above language 'to') $f$ with respect to $x$ around $0$ is the familar
$$ f(x) = x - fracx^33! + fracx^55! - fracx^77! + dots$$



So you want to rewrite $r'$ in terms of $a/r$ and expand around 0.






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    thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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$begingroup$

For an easier example, let $f(x) = sin(x)$. The Taylor series expansion of (or, I guess, in your above language 'to') $f$ with respect to $x$ around $0$ is the familar
$$ f(x) = x - fracx^33! + fracx^55! - fracx^77! + dots$$



So you want to rewrite $r'$ in terms of $a/r$ and expand around 0.






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    thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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$begingroup$

For an easier example, let $f(x) = sin(x)$. The Taylor series expansion of (or, I guess, in your above language 'to') $f$ with respect to $x$ around $0$ is the familar
$$ f(x) = x - fracx^33! + fracx^55! - fracx^77! + dots$$



So you want to rewrite $r'$ in terms of $a/r$ and expand around 0.






share|cite|improve this answer









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For an easier example, let $f(x) = sin(x)$. The Taylor series expansion of (or, I guess, in your above language 'to') $f$ with respect to $x$ around $0$ is the familar
$$ f(x) = x - fracx^33! + fracx^55! - fracx^77! + dots$$



So you want to rewrite $r'$ in terms of $a/r$ and expand around 0.







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    thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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  • $begingroup$
    thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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thank you @bounceback for your answer, specially for specifying the idea about rewriting it, that was they key point.
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The "with respect to" specifies the variable whose powers appear in the series. "around" is the point near which you want an approximation. So your answer will look like
$$
c_o + c_1(a/r - 0) + c_2(a/r - 0)^2 + text higher order terms.
$$



(Of course the zeroes go away. I just put them in to illustrate "around $0$".)






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    thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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    – nachofest
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  • $begingroup$
    by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
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    – nachofest
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @nachofest Yes,. Fixed thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Ethan Bolker
    6 hours ago















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$begingroup$

The "with respect to" specifies the variable whose powers appear in the series. "around" is the point near which you want an approximation. So your answer will look like
$$
c_o + c_1(a/r - 0) + c_2(a/r - 0)^2 + text higher order terms.
$$



(Of course the zeroes go away. I just put them in to illustrate "around $0$".)






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  • $begingroup$
    thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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    – nachofest
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
    $endgroup$
    – nachofest
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @nachofest Yes,. Fixed thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – Ethan Bolker
    6 hours ago













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$begingroup$

The "with respect to" specifies the variable whose powers appear in the series. "around" is the point near which you want an approximation. So your answer will look like
$$
c_o + c_1(a/r - 0) + c_2(a/r - 0)^2 + text higher order terms.
$$



(Of course the zeroes go away. I just put them in to illustrate "around $0$".)






share|cite|improve this answer











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The "with respect to" specifies the variable whose powers appear in the series. "around" is the point near which you want an approximation. So your answer will look like
$$
c_o + c_1(a/r - 0) + c_2(a/r - 0)^2 + text higher order terms.
$$



(Of course the zeroes go away. I just put them in to illustrate "around $0$".)







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    thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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  • $begingroup$
    by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
    $endgroup$
    – nachofest
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @nachofest Yes,. Fixed thanks.
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    thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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  • $begingroup$
    by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
    $endgroup$
    – nachofest
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @nachofest Yes,. Fixed thanks.
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    – Ethan Bolker
    6 hours ago















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thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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thank you @ethan-bolker for the example!
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by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
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by the way, in your answer is it r/a or you meant a/r ? thanks
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– nachofest
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$begingroup$
@nachofest Yes,. Fixed thanks.
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