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Must a CPU have a GPU if the motherboard provides a display port (when there isn't any separate video card)?


Not getting any output from video card or onboard- is my motherboard dead?Computer doesn't beep when starting with only motherboard, power supply, and CPU. Is the motherboard dead?AMD CPU with dedicated GPU and the onboard VGA porti7 2600 compatibility with PCIe 3?No video output after BSOD dxgmms1.sysNew system, does not boot, 1 long beep two shortUbuntu stuck on boot with multiple GPUs and onboard graphics“Internal graphics redirecting card” for motherboard with no video port?Will my RAM be compatible with my motherboard?10Gb PCI-E 4x LAN card on CPU lane, built in intel graphics






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There is such a configuration: MSI A320M PRO-M2 V2 + AMD Ryzen 5 1400 BOX and there isn't any separate video card. When the PC is switched on, the monitor shows nothing. The MSI tech support said:




There is no GPU in the CPU Ryzen 5 1400, and the onboard VGA port cannot work with
this CPU. It is necessary to install a PCIe graphics card.




And added that




Whether it is Intel motherboard or AMD motherboard, the onboard integrated
GPU is in the CPU, not in motherboard. The motherboard only provides the
display port. There is no GPU in the Ryzen Summit Ridge CPU; only Raven
Ridge and Bristol Ridge CPUs support a GPU.




What I don't understand is that I have another configuration, ASRock 960GC-GS FX + AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810. Again there is no separate video card. As I found out, AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 doesn't have any GPU. But the video works and this question I post using this configuration. How can this be explained?










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    Your Ryzen system probably could boot headless, as a server with no graphics output. (i.e. not having any graphics hardware at all probably doesn't stop it from booting. But it makes it hard to configure the BIOS.)

    – Peter Cordes
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    FWIW, the specs of the motherboards seem to be rather clearly written on this. The 960GC-GS FX says "Graphics: Integrated AMD Radeon 3000 graphics" while the A320M PRO-M2 V2 says "Onboard graphics: (...) Only support when using Ryzen ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics/ Athlon ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics and A-series processors."

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There is such a configuration: MSI A320M PRO-M2 V2 + AMD Ryzen 5 1400 BOX and there isn't any separate video card. When the PC is switched on, the monitor shows nothing. The MSI tech support said:




There is no GPU in the CPU Ryzen 5 1400, and the onboard VGA port cannot work with
this CPU. It is necessary to install a PCIe graphics card.




And added that




Whether it is Intel motherboard or AMD motherboard, the onboard integrated
GPU is in the CPU, not in motherboard. The motherboard only provides the
display port. There is no GPU in the Ryzen Summit Ridge CPU; only Raven
Ridge and Bristol Ridge CPUs support a GPU.




What I don't understand is that I have another configuration, ASRock 960GC-GS FX + AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810. Again there is no separate video card. As I found out, AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 doesn't have any GPU. But the video works and this question I post using this configuration. How can this be explained?










share|improve this question



















  • 1





    Your Ryzen system probably could boot headless, as a server with no graphics output. (i.e. not having any graphics hardware at all probably doesn't stop it from booting. But it makes it hard to configure the BIOS.)

    – Peter Cordes
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    FWIW, the specs of the motherboards seem to be rather clearly written on this. The 960GC-GS FX says "Graphics: Integrated AMD Radeon 3000 graphics" while the A320M PRO-M2 V2 says "Onboard graphics: (...) Only support when using Ryzen ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics/ Athlon ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics and A-series processors."

    – ilkkachu
    7 hours ago














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There is such a configuration: MSI A320M PRO-M2 V2 + AMD Ryzen 5 1400 BOX and there isn't any separate video card. When the PC is switched on, the monitor shows nothing. The MSI tech support said:




There is no GPU in the CPU Ryzen 5 1400, and the onboard VGA port cannot work with
this CPU. It is necessary to install a PCIe graphics card.




And added that




Whether it is Intel motherboard or AMD motherboard, the onboard integrated
GPU is in the CPU, not in motherboard. The motherboard only provides the
display port. There is no GPU in the Ryzen Summit Ridge CPU; only Raven
Ridge and Bristol Ridge CPUs support a GPU.




What I don't understand is that I have another configuration, ASRock 960GC-GS FX + AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810. Again there is no separate video card. As I found out, AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 doesn't have any GPU. But the video works and this question I post using this configuration. How can this be explained?










share|improve this question
















There is such a configuration: MSI A320M PRO-M2 V2 + AMD Ryzen 5 1400 BOX and there isn't any separate video card. When the PC is switched on, the monitor shows nothing. The MSI tech support said:




There is no GPU in the CPU Ryzen 5 1400, and the onboard VGA port cannot work with
this CPU. It is necessary to install a PCIe graphics card.




And added that




Whether it is Intel motherboard or AMD motherboard, the onboard integrated
GPU is in the CPU, not in motherboard. The motherboard only provides the
display port. There is no GPU in the Ryzen Summit Ridge CPU; only Raven
Ridge and Bristol Ridge CPUs support a GPU.




What I don't understand is that I have another configuration, ASRock 960GC-GS FX + AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810. Again there is no separate video card. As I found out, AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 doesn't have any GPU. But the video works and this question I post using this configuration. How can this be explained?







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    Your Ryzen system probably could boot headless, as a server with no graphics output. (i.e. not having any graphics hardware at all probably doesn't stop it from booting. But it makes it hard to configure the BIOS.)

    – Peter Cordes
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    FWIW, the specs of the motherboards seem to be rather clearly written on this. The 960GC-GS FX says "Graphics: Integrated AMD Radeon 3000 graphics" while the A320M PRO-M2 V2 says "Onboard graphics: (...) Only support when using Ryzen ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics/ Athlon ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics and A-series processors."

    – ilkkachu
    7 hours ago













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    Your Ryzen system probably could boot headless, as a server with no graphics output. (i.e. not having any graphics hardware at all probably doesn't stop it from booting. But it makes it hard to configure the BIOS.)

    – Peter Cordes
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    FWIW, the specs of the motherboards seem to be rather clearly written on this. The 960GC-GS FX says "Graphics: Integrated AMD Radeon 3000 graphics" while the A320M PRO-M2 V2 says "Onboard graphics: (...) Only support when using Ryzen ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics/ Athlon ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics and A-series processors."

    – ilkkachu
    7 hours ago








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Your Ryzen system probably could boot headless, as a server with no graphics output. (i.e. not having any graphics hardware at all probably doesn't stop it from booting. But it makes it hard to configure the BIOS.)

– Peter Cordes
7 hours ago





Your Ryzen system probably could boot headless, as a server with no graphics output. (i.e. not having any graphics hardware at all probably doesn't stop it from booting. But it makes it hard to configure the BIOS.)

– Peter Cordes
7 hours ago




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FWIW, the specs of the motherboards seem to be rather clearly written on this. The 960GC-GS FX says "Graphics: Integrated AMD Radeon 3000 graphics" while the A320M PRO-M2 V2 says "Onboard graphics: (...) Only support when using Ryzen ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics/ Athlon ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics and A-series processors."

– ilkkachu
7 hours ago






FWIW, the specs of the motherboards seem to be rather clearly written on this. The 960GC-GS FX says "Graphics: Integrated AMD Radeon 3000 graphics" while the A320M PRO-M2 V2 says "Onboard graphics: (...) Only support when using Ryzen ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics/ Athlon ™ with Radeon ™ Vega Graphics and A-series processors."

– ilkkachu
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Today, motherboard-integrated graphics are basically gone (in the consumer sector, anyway). It’s either CPU-integrated graphics or dedicated graphics. Both Intel and AMD still sell CPUs without integrated graphics, even with the same socket. If you install one of these, you won’t be able to use the display connectors on the motherboard.



In the past, CPUs did not have integrated graphics at all. Instead, the graphics unit was integrated with the motherboard (typically directly with the chipset). Your older Phenom II configuration comes from this time. It has motherboard-integrated graphics.






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    Today, motherboard-integrated graphics are basically gone (in the consumer sector, anyway). It’s either CPU-integrated graphics or dedicated graphics. Both Intel and AMD still sell CPUs without integrated graphics, even with the same socket. If you install one of these, you won’t be able to use the display connectors on the motherboard.



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      Today, motherboard-integrated graphics are basically gone (in the consumer sector, anyway). It’s either CPU-integrated graphics or dedicated graphics. Both Intel and AMD still sell CPUs without integrated graphics, even with the same socket. If you install one of these, you won’t be able to use the display connectors on the motherboard.



      In the past, CPUs did not have integrated graphics at all. Instead, the graphics unit was integrated with the motherboard (typically directly with the chipset). Your older Phenom II configuration comes from this time. It has motherboard-integrated graphics.






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        In the past, CPUs did not have integrated graphics at all. Instead, the graphics unit was integrated with the motherboard (typically directly with the chipset). Your older Phenom II configuration comes from this time. It has motherboard-integrated graphics.






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