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Muscles and bones have Latin names as can be found on wikipedia.



I need to name muscles and bones with their Latin name and I also need to specify if it's the left or the right muscle in the human body.



Where is the correct position for the Latin words for left (sinistra) and right (dextra) for a muscle or bone name?



Is there a general rule where to position this word?



Does the form of the left and right also depend on the case?



Example



The musculus latissimus dorsi exists on the humans back on the left and right side.



What is the correct naming if I explicitly want to point to the left muscle?



  1. musculus latissimus dorsi sinistra

  2. musculus latissimus sinistra dorsi

  3. musculus sinistra latissimus dorsi

  4. sinistra musculus latissimus dorsi









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    Welcome to the site and thanks for the nice question! One option worth considering is replacing dexter (right) with lateris dextri (of the right side). I faintly recall seeing that, but I don't know what would be a canonical choice in an anatomical context.

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
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Muscles and bones have Latin names as can be found on wikipedia.



I need to name muscles and bones with their Latin name and I also need to specify if it's the left or the right muscle in the human body.



Where is the correct position for the Latin words for left (sinistra) and right (dextra) for a muscle or bone name?



Is there a general rule where to position this word?



Does the form of the left and right also depend on the case?



Example



The musculus latissimus dorsi exists on the humans back on the left and right side.



What is the correct naming if I explicitly want to point to the left muscle?



  1. musculus latissimus dorsi sinistra

  2. musculus latissimus sinistra dorsi

  3. musculus sinistra latissimus dorsi

  4. sinistra musculus latissimus dorsi









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    Welcome to the site and thanks for the nice question! One option worth considering is replacing dexter (right) with lateris dextri (of the right side). I faintly recall seeing that, but I don't know what would be a canonical choice in an anatomical context.

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    8 hours ago













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Muscles and bones have Latin names as can be found on wikipedia.



I need to name muscles and bones with their Latin name and I also need to specify if it's the left or the right muscle in the human body.



Where is the correct position for the Latin words for left (sinistra) and right (dextra) for a muscle or bone name?



Is there a general rule where to position this word?



Does the form of the left and right also depend on the case?



Example



The musculus latissimus dorsi exists on the humans back on the left and right side.



What is the correct naming if I explicitly want to point to the left muscle?



  1. musculus latissimus dorsi sinistra

  2. musculus latissimus sinistra dorsi

  3. musculus sinistra latissimus dorsi

  4. sinistra musculus latissimus dorsi









share|improve this question









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Muscles and bones have Latin names as can be found on wikipedia.



I need to name muscles and bones with their Latin name and I also need to specify if it's the left or the right muscle in the human body.



Where is the correct position for the Latin words for left (sinistra) and right (dextra) for a muscle or bone name?



Is there a general rule where to position this word?



Does the form of the left and right also depend on the case?



Example



The musculus latissimus dorsi exists on the humans back on the left and right side.



What is the correct naming if I explicitly want to point to the left muscle?



  1. musculus latissimus dorsi sinistra

  2. musculus latissimus sinistra dorsi

  3. musculus sinistra latissimus dorsi

  4. sinistra musculus latissimus dorsi






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    Welcome to the site and thanks for the nice question! One option worth considering is replacing dexter (right) with lateris dextri (of the right side). I faintly recall seeing that, but I don't know what would be a canonical choice in an anatomical context.

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    8 hours ago












  • 1





    Welcome to the site and thanks for the nice question! One option worth considering is replacing dexter (right) with lateris dextri (of the right side). I faintly recall seeing that, but I don't know what would be a canonical choice in an anatomical context.

    – Joonas Ilmavirta
    8 hours ago







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Welcome to the site and thanks for the nice question! One option worth considering is replacing dexter (right) with lateris dextri (of the right side). I faintly recall seeing that, but I don't know what would be a canonical choice in an anatomical context.

– Joonas Ilmavirta
8 hours ago





Welcome to the site and thanks for the nice question! One option worth considering is replacing dexter (right) with lateris dextri (of the right side). I faintly recall seeing that, but I don't know what would be a canonical choice in an anatomical context.

– Joonas Ilmavirta
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It seems usage of Latin name for muscles many times does not specify the side of the body in Latin. Instead, they use English (or other languages), e.g. "left/right latissimus dorsi" (e.g. left here). However, the Latin for right and left are still used in some cases. For example, from this book:



enter image description here



Other examples are in this book, which lists some body parts and in parenthesis has Dextri et Sinistri. So it seems the terms often used are dextri and sinistri. The addition of lateris seems not compulsory, as it is self-evident "of the right" refers to "of the right side" (and it might be eliminated for brevity).



Having said this, there are instances where the side is used in the nominative case, and not in the genitive (e.g. here). This is to be understood as "the right [side] muscle X", instead of "the muscle X of the right [side]".



Finally, regarding the order of words, in Latin this is sometimes irrelevant. Still, if you want to follow some of the medical uses referred above, I would prefer




musculus latissimus dorsi sinistri




In any case, I would not advice to use musculus latissimus sinistri dorsi, since you are breaking the muscle name apart [pun intended].



PS: I'm not an expert on anatomy or medicine, nor I am acquainted with the "official" terminology used. I did not carry a statistical analysis of which term is most popular or common. So take my advice with care. I went for the genitive just because it's the one used in some handbooks, as linked above. For further reference on anatomical terms of location, please see this link.






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  • Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

    – Bruno Bieri
    6 hours ago











  • @BrunoBieri see update.

    – luchonacho
    6 hours ago











  • Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

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It seems usage of Latin name for muscles many times does not specify the side of the body in Latin. Instead, they use English (or other languages), e.g. "left/right latissimus dorsi" (e.g. left here). However, the Latin for right and left are still used in some cases. For example, from this book:



enter image description here



Other examples are in this book, which lists some body parts and in parenthesis has Dextri et Sinistri. So it seems the terms often used are dextri and sinistri. The addition of lateris seems not compulsory, as it is self-evident "of the right" refers to "of the right side" (and it might be eliminated for brevity).



Having said this, there are instances where the side is used in the nominative case, and not in the genitive (e.g. here). This is to be understood as "the right [side] muscle X", instead of "the muscle X of the right [side]".



Finally, regarding the order of words, in Latin this is sometimes irrelevant. Still, if you want to follow some of the medical uses referred above, I would prefer




musculus latissimus dorsi sinistri




In any case, I would not advice to use musculus latissimus sinistri dorsi, since you are breaking the muscle name apart [pun intended].



PS: I'm not an expert on anatomy or medicine, nor I am acquainted with the "official" terminology used. I did not carry a statistical analysis of which term is most popular or common. So take my advice with care. I went for the genitive just because it's the one used in some handbooks, as linked above. For further reference on anatomical terms of location, please see this link.






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  • Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

    – Bruno Bieri
    6 hours ago











  • @BrunoBieri see update.

    – luchonacho
    6 hours ago











  • Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

    – cnread
    3 hours ago















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It seems usage of Latin name for muscles many times does not specify the side of the body in Latin. Instead, they use English (or other languages), e.g. "left/right latissimus dorsi" (e.g. left here). However, the Latin for right and left are still used in some cases. For example, from this book:



enter image description here



Other examples are in this book, which lists some body parts and in parenthesis has Dextri et Sinistri. So it seems the terms often used are dextri and sinistri. The addition of lateris seems not compulsory, as it is self-evident "of the right" refers to "of the right side" (and it might be eliminated for brevity).



Having said this, there are instances where the side is used in the nominative case, and not in the genitive (e.g. here). This is to be understood as "the right [side] muscle X", instead of "the muscle X of the right [side]".



Finally, regarding the order of words, in Latin this is sometimes irrelevant. Still, if you want to follow some of the medical uses referred above, I would prefer




musculus latissimus dorsi sinistri




In any case, I would not advice to use musculus latissimus sinistri dorsi, since you are breaking the muscle name apart [pun intended].



PS: I'm not an expert on anatomy or medicine, nor I am acquainted with the "official" terminology used. I did not carry a statistical analysis of which term is most popular or common. So take my advice with care. I went for the genitive just because it's the one used in some handbooks, as linked above. For further reference on anatomical terms of location, please see this link.






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  • Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

    – Bruno Bieri
    6 hours ago











  • @BrunoBieri see update.

    – luchonacho
    6 hours ago











  • Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

    – cnread
    3 hours ago













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It seems usage of Latin name for muscles many times does not specify the side of the body in Latin. Instead, they use English (or other languages), e.g. "left/right latissimus dorsi" (e.g. left here). However, the Latin for right and left are still used in some cases. For example, from this book:



enter image description here



Other examples are in this book, which lists some body parts and in parenthesis has Dextri et Sinistri. So it seems the terms often used are dextri and sinistri. The addition of lateris seems not compulsory, as it is self-evident "of the right" refers to "of the right side" (and it might be eliminated for brevity).



Having said this, there are instances where the side is used in the nominative case, and not in the genitive (e.g. here). This is to be understood as "the right [side] muscle X", instead of "the muscle X of the right [side]".



Finally, regarding the order of words, in Latin this is sometimes irrelevant. Still, if you want to follow some of the medical uses referred above, I would prefer




musculus latissimus dorsi sinistri




In any case, I would not advice to use musculus latissimus sinistri dorsi, since you are breaking the muscle name apart [pun intended].



PS: I'm not an expert on anatomy or medicine, nor I am acquainted with the "official" terminology used. I did not carry a statistical analysis of which term is most popular or common. So take my advice with care. I went for the genitive just because it's the one used in some handbooks, as linked above. For further reference on anatomical terms of location, please see this link.






share|improve this answer















It seems usage of Latin name for muscles many times does not specify the side of the body in Latin. Instead, they use English (or other languages), e.g. "left/right latissimus dorsi" (e.g. left here). However, the Latin for right and left are still used in some cases. For example, from this book:



enter image description here



Other examples are in this book, which lists some body parts and in parenthesis has Dextri et Sinistri. So it seems the terms often used are dextri and sinistri. The addition of lateris seems not compulsory, as it is self-evident "of the right" refers to "of the right side" (and it might be eliminated for brevity).



Having said this, there are instances where the side is used in the nominative case, and not in the genitive (e.g. here). This is to be understood as "the right [side] muscle X", instead of "the muscle X of the right [side]".



Finally, regarding the order of words, in Latin this is sometimes irrelevant. Still, if you want to follow some of the medical uses referred above, I would prefer




musculus latissimus dorsi sinistri




In any case, I would not advice to use musculus latissimus sinistri dorsi, since you are breaking the muscle name apart [pun intended].



PS: I'm not an expert on anatomy or medicine, nor I am acquainted with the "official" terminology used. I did not carry a statistical analysis of which term is most popular or common. So take my advice with care. I went for the genitive just because it's the one used in some handbooks, as linked above. For further reference on anatomical terms of location, please see this link.







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  • Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

    – Bruno Bieri
    6 hours ago











  • @BrunoBieri see update.

    – luchonacho
    6 hours ago











  • Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

    – cnread
    3 hours ago

















  • Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

    – Bruno Bieri
    6 hours ago











  • @BrunoBieri see update.

    – luchonacho
    6 hours ago











  • Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

    – cnread
    3 hours ago
















Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

– Bruno Bieri
6 hours ago





Thank you for the answer. Are you aware if there is a rule when to only use the sinistri part and when to use lateris sinistri as stated in the comment from Joonas?

– Bruno Bieri
6 hours ago













@BrunoBieri see update.

– luchonacho
6 hours ago





@BrunoBieri see update.

– luchonacho
6 hours ago













Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

– cnread
3 hours ago





Are you sure dextri and sinistri (and medii) are genitive in the examples you give? If I saw those phrases, I would assume the adjectives were nominative, agreeing with nodi, so that the phrase for the original question would be musculus latissimus dorsi sinister.

– cnread
3 hours ago










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