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In Top Gun, a US warship is placed in the Indian Ocean.
In the opening and climax of the movie, US fighter planes are in a dogfight with MiGs, but the country is not revealed.
Why was a US warship present in the Indian Ocean, and to which country did these MiGs belong?
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In Top Gun, a US warship is placed in the Indian Ocean.
In the opening and climax of the movie, US fighter planes are in a dogfight with MiGs, but the country is not revealed.
Why was a US warship present in the Indian Ocean, and to which country did these MiGs belong?
plot-explanation top-gun
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usually MiGs are from Russia and/or allies from Russia
– Vishwa
16 hours ago
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@Vishwa there was no Russia in 1986, only the Soviet Union
– TK-421
14 hours ago
add a comment |
In Top Gun, a US warship is placed in the Indian Ocean.
In the opening and climax of the movie, US fighter planes are in a dogfight with MiGs, but the country is not revealed.
Why was a US warship present in the Indian Ocean, and to which country did these MiGs belong?
plot-explanation top-gun
In Top Gun, a US warship is placed in the Indian Ocean.
In the opening and climax of the movie, US fighter planes are in a dogfight with MiGs, but the country is not revealed.
Why was a US warship present in the Indian Ocean, and to which country did these MiGs belong?
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usually MiGs are from Russia and/or allies from Russia
– Vishwa
16 hours ago
4
@Vishwa there was no Russia in 1986, only the Soviet Union
– TK-421
14 hours ago
add a comment |
1
usually MiGs are from Russia and/or allies from Russia
– Vishwa
16 hours ago
4
@Vishwa there was no Russia in 1986, only the Soviet Union
– TK-421
14 hours ago
1
1
usually MiGs are from Russia and/or allies from Russia
– Vishwa
16 hours ago
usually MiGs are from Russia and/or allies from Russia
– Vishwa
16 hours ago
4
4
@Vishwa there was no Russia in 1986, only the Soviet Union
– TK-421
14 hours ago
@Vishwa there was no Russia in 1986, only the Soviet Union
– TK-421
14 hours ago
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The country of origin for the MiG 28s (see footnote) was left intentionally vague. It would have been easy to have the pilots converse in their native language or even adorn the aircraft with unequivocal identification schemes.
That the enemy was never officially established in Proser's early draft or Jack Epps Jr's final script. This was likely intentional: villainous governments in the movies are routinely left vague as to not piss off their real-world counterparts, with the exception of North Korea, possibly because North Korea doesn't have a strong market for movies or video games.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
Regarding their identification markings:
However, the markings on the fictional MiG-28 aren't Soviet. The MiG-28 in the film has a single red star surrounded by a yellow circle on their tail as their only marking, while Soviet aircraft traditionally had a white trim to their red star (just to cover my bases, the North Korean Air Force uses a blue trim). However, one country does, in fact, use yellow trim on their red star insignia: China.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
At least one of the script's draft identified the aggressors as North Korean.
Despite the markings, North Korea is still a good guess. Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson had more than one writer working on the Top Gun script. Along with Proser's draft, Jim Cash and Jack Epps, Jr. were hired to write another draft of the screenplay for the film that initially identified North Korea as the threat that Maverick and Co take on in the thrilling finale.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
During script rewrites, the conflict was moved to the Indian Ocean which further confuses the issue. Which nation sporting MiG28s supposedly armed with French made AM 39 Exocet anti-ship missile(s) would be so protective of that area?
So there is no definitive country of origin.
Apparently, the fictional MiG-28 aggressor aircraft used in the Top Gun film were actually a mix of Northrop single-seat F-5E Tiger II and two-seat F-5F Tiger II aircraft.
Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
1
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Audio commentary on the film's Special-Edition DVD release states that
they were originally intended to be North Korean.
This source states, that they were meant to be North Korean, but no information was actually included in the movie.
The movie takes place in 1986, while there was no Russia yet, only the Soviet Union and other communistic states. Also, Mig-28 is not a real plane, but an American Northrop F-5 painted black.
There is also no way to determine which countries used such planes in real life. However, a similar plane - Mig-29, which has been in production during 1986, was or still is, operated by about 30 countries.
2
"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
2
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
2
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
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oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
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active
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The country of origin for the MiG 28s (see footnote) was left intentionally vague. It would have been easy to have the pilots converse in their native language or even adorn the aircraft with unequivocal identification schemes.
That the enemy was never officially established in Proser's early draft or Jack Epps Jr's final script. This was likely intentional: villainous governments in the movies are routinely left vague as to not piss off their real-world counterparts, with the exception of North Korea, possibly because North Korea doesn't have a strong market for movies or video games.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
Regarding their identification markings:
However, the markings on the fictional MiG-28 aren't Soviet. The MiG-28 in the film has a single red star surrounded by a yellow circle on their tail as their only marking, while Soviet aircraft traditionally had a white trim to their red star (just to cover my bases, the North Korean Air Force uses a blue trim). However, one country does, in fact, use yellow trim on their red star insignia: China.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
At least one of the script's draft identified the aggressors as North Korean.
Despite the markings, North Korea is still a good guess. Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson had more than one writer working on the Top Gun script. Along with Proser's draft, Jim Cash and Jack Epps, Jr. were hired to write another draft of the screenplay for the film that initially identified North Korea as the threat that Maverick and Co take on in the thrilling finale.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
During script rewrites, the conflict was moved to the Indian Ocean which further confuses the issue. Which nation sporting MiG28s supposedly armed with French made AM 39 Exocet anti-ship missile(s) would be so protective of that area?
So there is no definitive country of origin.
Apparently, the fictional MiG-28 aggressor aircraft used in the Top Gun film were actually a mix of Northrop single-seat F-5E Tiger II and two-seat F-5F Tiger II aircraft.
Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
1
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
The country of origin for the MiG 28s (see footnote) was left intentionally vague. It would have been easy to have the pilots converse in their native language or even adorn the aircraft with unequivocal identification schemes.
That the enemy was never officially established in Proser's early draft or Jack Epps Jr's final script. This was likely intentional: villainous governments in the movies are routinely left vague as to not piss off their real-world counterparts, with the exception of North Korea, possibly because North Korea doesn't have a strong market for movies or video games.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
Regarding their identification markings:
However, the markings on the fictional MiG-28 aren't Soviet. The MiG-28 in the film has a single red star surrounded by a yellow circle on their tail as their only marking, while Soviet aircraft traditionally had a white trim to their red star (just to cover my bases, the North Korean Air Force uses a blue trim). However, one country does, in fact, use yellow trim on their red star insignia: China.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
At least one of the script's draft identified the aggressors as North Korean.
Despite the markings, North Korea is still a good guess. Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson had more than one writer working on the Top Gun script. Along with Proser's draft, Jim Cash and Jack Epps, Jr. were hired to write another draft of the screenplay for the film that initially identified North Korea as the threat that Maverick and Co take on in the thrilling finale.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
During script rewrites, the conflict was moved to the Indian Ocean which further confuses the issue. Which nation sporting MiG28s supposedly armed with French made AM 39 Exocet anti-ship missile(s) would be so protective of that area?
So there is no definitive country of origin.
Apparently, the fictional MiG-28 aggressor aircraft used in the Top Gun film were actually a mix of Northrop single-seat F-5E Tiger II and two-seat F-5F Tiger II aircraft.
Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
1
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
The country of origin for the MiG 28s (see footnote) was left intentionally vague. It would have been easy to have the pilots converse in their native language or even adorn the aircraft with unequivocal identification schemes.
That the enemy was never officially established in Proser's early draft or Jack Epps Jr's final script. This was likely intentional: villainous governments in the movies are routinely left vague as to not piss off their real-world counterparts, with the exception of North Korea, possibly because North Korea doesn't have a strong market for movies or video games.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
Regarding their identification markings:
However, the markings on the fictional MiG-28 aren't Soviet. The MiG-28 in the film has a single red star surrounded by a yellow circle on their tail as their only marking, while Soviet aircraft traditionally had a white trim to their red star (just to cover my bases, the North Korean Air Force uses a blue trim). However, one country does, in fact, use yellow trim on their red star insignia: China.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
At least one of the script's draft identified the aggressors as North Korean.
Despite the markings, North Korea is still a good guess. Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson had more than one writer working on the Top Gun script. Along with Proser's draft, Jim Cash and Jack Epps, Jr. were hired to write another draft of the screenplay for the film that initially identified North Korea as the threat that Maverick and Co take on in the thrilling finale.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
During script rewrites, the conflict was moved to the Indian Ocean which further confuses the issue. Which nation sporting MiG28s supposedly armed with French made AM 39 Exocet anti-ship missile(s) would be so protective of that area?
So there is no definitive country of origin.
Apparently, the fictional MiG-28 aggressor aircraft used in the Top Gun film were actually a mix of Northrop single-seat F-5E Tiger II and two-seat F-5F Tiger II aircraft.
The country of origin for the MiG 28s (see footnote) was left intentionally vague. It would have been easy to have the pilots converse in their native language or even adorn the aircraft with unequivocal identification schemes.
That the enemy was never officially established in Proser's early draft or Jack Epps Jr's final script. This was likely intentional: villainous governments in the movies are routinely left vague as to not piss off their real-world counterparts, with the exception of North Korea, possibly because North Korea doesn't have a strong market for movies or video games.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
Regarding their identification markings:
However, the markings on the fictional MiG-28 aren't Soviet. The MiG-28 in the film has a single red star surrounded by a yellow circle on their tail as their only marking, while Soviet aircraft traditionally had a white trim to their red star (just to cover my bases, the North Korean Air Force uses a blue trim). However, one country does, in fact, use yellow trim on their red star insignia: China.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
At least one of the script's draft identified the aggressors as North Korean.
Despite the markings, North Korea is still a good guess. Producers Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson had more than one writer working on the Top Gun script. Along with Proser's draft, Jim Cash and Jack Epps, Jr. were hired to write another draft of the screenplay for the film that initially identified North Korea as the threat that Maverick and Co take on in the thrilling finale.
source: Task & Purpose - Brad Howard
During script rewrites, the conflict was moved to the Indian Ocean which further confuses the issue. Which nation sporting MiG28s supposedly armed with French made AM 39 Exocet anti-ship missile(s) would be so protective of that area?
So there is no definitive country of origin.
Apparently, the fictional MiG-28 aggressor aircraft used in the Top Gun film were actually a mix of Northrop single-seat F-5E Tiger II and two-seat F-5F Tiger II aircraft.
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Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
1
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
1
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
Thank you for an elaborate answer.
– Rahul
11 hours ago
1
1
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
India was the main (only?) nation in the area that used Soviet kit and was wealthy enough to buy enough planes and care about the IO that much. But they weren't antagonistic towards the US.
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Audio commentary on the film's Special-Edition DVD release states that
they were originally intended to be North Korean.
This source states, that they were meant to be North Korean, but no information was actually included in the movie.
The movie takes place in 1986, while there was no Russia yet, only the Soviet Union and other communistic states. Also, Mig-28 is not a real plane, but an American Northrop F-5 painted black.
There is also no way to determine which countries used such planes in real life. However, a similar plane - Mig-29, which has been in production during 1986, was or still is, operated by about 30 countries.
2
"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
2
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
2
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Audio commentary on the film's Special-Edition DVD release states that
they were originally intended to be North Korean.
This source states, that they were meant to be North Korean, but no information was actually included in the movie.
The movie takes place in 1986, while there was no Russia yet, only the Soviet Union and other communistic states. Also, Mig-28 is not a real plane, but an American Northrop F-5 painted black.
There is also no way to determine which countries used such planes in real life. However, a similar plane - Mig-29, which has been in production during 1986, was or still is, operated by about 30 countries.
2
"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
2
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
2
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Audio commentary on the film's Special-Edition DVD release states that
they were originally intended to be North Korean.
This source states, that they were meant to be North Korean, but no information was actually included in the movie.
The movie takes place in 1986, while there was no Russia yet, only the Soviet Union and other communistic states. Also, Mig-28 is not a real plane, but an American Northrop F-5 painted black.
There is also no way to determine which countries used such planes in real life. However, a similar plane - Mig-29, which has been in production during 1986, was or still is, operated by about 30 countries.
Audio commentary on the film's Special-Edition DVD release states that
they were originally intended to be North Korean.
This source states, that they were meant to be North Korean, but no information was actually included in the movie.
The movie takes place in 1986, while there was no Russia yet, only the Soviet Union and other communistic states. Also, Mig-28 is not a real plane, but an American Northrop F-5 painted black.
There is also no way to determine which countries used such planes in real life. However, a similar plane - Mig-29, which has been in production during 1986, was or still is, operated by about 30 countries.
answered 14 hours ago
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"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
2
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
2
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
2
"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
2
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
2
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
2
2
"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
"there was no Russia yet" So, when was Russia invented?
– bruno
7 hours ago
2
2
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
This use of “Russia” is ridiculous: Russia has existed for centuries. The way it’s described here it should be referred to as the Russian Federation. Or perhaps like this, “The movie takes place in 1986, the Soviet Union and—other related communist states—were still active.”
– JakeGould
4 hours ago
2
2
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
The Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic sure existed...
– RonJohn
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
usually MiGs are from Russia and/or allies from Russia
– Vishwa
16 hours ago
4
@Vishwa there was no Russia in 1986, only the Soviet Union
– TK-421
14 hours ago