What is a “click” in Greek or Latin?What is “user account” in Latin?What is information technology in Latin?What do animals say in classical Latin?What is “express” in Latin?What is Latin (and Greek) for “medium”? (Greek)What is “site” in Latin?What is “spam”?What is chat in Latin?Art and science in Greek and Latin (Greek)The meaning of 'belgicare' in Notker Balbulus
Starships without computers?
Is there a known non-euclidean geometry where two concentric circles of different radii can intersect? (as in the novel "The Universe Between")
Are there any OR challenges that are similar to kaggle's competitions?
Do living authors still get paid royalties for their old work?
What professions does medieval village with a population of 100 need?
Was Switzerland really impossible to invade during WW2?
What is the latest version of SQL Server native client that is compatible with Sql Server 2008 r2
Stuffing in the middle
How to decide whether an eshop is safe or compromised
Earliest evidence of objects intended for future archaeologists?
"Silverware", "Tableware", and "Dishes"
What animal has fat with the highest energy density?
Changing a TGV booking
Would it be illegal for Facebook to actively promote a political agenda?
Designing a prison for a telekinetic race
Repurpose telephone line to ethernet
Why don't sharp and flat root note chords seem to be present in much guitar music?
Are there reliable, formulaic ways to form chords on the guitar?
How to think about joining a company whose business I do not understand?
Infinite loop in CURSOR
I think my coworker went through my notebook and took my project ideas
Do predators tend to have vertical slit pupils versus horizontal for prey animals?
What is a "click" in Greek or Latin?
How to dismiss intrusive questions from a colleague with whom I don't work?
What is a “click” in Greek or Latin?
What is “user account” in Latin?What is information technology in Latin?What do animals say in classical Latin?What is “express” in Latin?What is Latin (and Greek) for “medium”? (Greek)What is “site” in Latin?What is “spam”?What is chat in Latin?Art and science in Greek and Latin (Greek)The meaning of 'belgicare' in Notker Balbulus
.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;
Linguistically, "clicks" are a type of sound found in certain African languages, mostly Khoisan and Southern Bantu. The English word is also used for various other sharp, high-pitched noises (like clicking your fingers).
If I wanted a technical term for how click sounds arise in languages (along the lines of "somethingogenesis"), is there an appropriate Greek or Latin root for this?
(Note that I'm interested in clicks as in the type of sound, not as in the action of pressing a button on a mouse.)
vocabulary vita-hodierna
add a comment |
Linguistically, "clicks" are a type of sound found in certain African languages, mostly Khoisan and Southern Bantu. The English word is also used for various other sharp, high-pitched noises (like clicking your fingers).
If I wanted a technical term for how click sounds arise in languages (along the lines of "somethingogenesis"), is there an appropriate Greek or Latin root for this?
(Note that I'm interested in clicks as in the type of sound, not as in the action of pressing a button on a mouse.)
vocabulary vita-hodierna
add a comment |
Linguistically, "clicks" are a type of sound found in certain African languages, mostly Khoisan and Southern Bantu. The English word is also used for various other sharp, high-pitched noises (like clicking your fingers).
If I wanted a technical term for how click sounds arise in languages (along the lines of "somethingogenesis"), is there an appropriate Greek or Latin root for this?
(Note that I'm interested in clicks as in the type of sound, not as in the action of pressing a button on a mouse.)
vocabulary vita-hodierna
Linguistically, "clicks" are a type of sound found in certain African languages, mostly Khoisan and Southern Bantu. The English word is also used for various other sharp, high-pitched noises (like clicking your fingers).
If I wanted a technical term for how click sounds arise in languages (along the lines of "somethingogenesis"), is there an appropriate Greek or Latin root for this?
(Note that I'm interested in clicks as in the type of sound, not as in the action of pressing a button on a mouse.)
vocabulary vita-hodierna
vocabulary vita-hodierna
asked 8 hours ago
DraconisDraconis
24.5k2 gold badges33 silver badges104 bronze badges
24.5k2 gold badges33 silver badges104 bronze badges
add a comment |
add a comment |
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
There are a couple of Finnish words for a click in the phonetic sense, one of them having a Latin origin.
One of the words we use is avulsiivi, which would correspond to avulsive in English but such a term does not seem to exist in this meaning in English.
The Latin word avulsio refers to the tearing out of a branch of a tree, and the Finnish phonetic term must refer to the corresponding snapping sound.
I am not sure whether other languages use a similar term, but it would be surprising to hear this to be a completely Finnish invention.
This and the other Finnish words are recorded in a well-curated scientific terminology database.
So, perhaps avulsio or something else derived from avellere could work?
add a comment |
OLD defines the noun crepitus as 'A short sharp sound or a succession of such sounds, a creaking, cracking, crashing, clashing, etc.'
This noun and related words are used to cover a fairly wide range of phenomena, such as the rattling of arrows in a quiver, the chattering of teeth, the fall of hail of a roof, the clicking of a bird's bill, the crackling of flames, the snapping of fingers, farts, the creaking of hinges, whip lashes, cymbals, the clapping of hands, and a child's rattle.
add a comment |
This is kind of a "frame challenge" rather than an answer, but I feel like it would be better to just refrain from trying to find a Latin or Greek root to refer to click consonants. When trying to Google for examples of discussion of click consonants in Latin, I came across a passage containing some terrible racism. Unfortunately, there seems to be a history of linguistic racism in the study of Khoisan languages and click consonants: see the following passage from "What click languages can and can't tell us about language origins", by Bonny Sands and Tom Güldemann:
(in The Cradle of Language, edited by Rudolf Botha and Chris Knight, p. 206)
Considering this history, using an uncommon Latin or Greek root to refer to these consonant sounds seems somewhat risky to me, as it could perhaps be understood as indicating that you take a different perspective from mainstream linguistics on the nature of these sounds. Given that "click" seems to be used (with minor adapatations in spelling and pronunciation) in a number of Romance languages to refer to these sounds (e.g. French "clic": Une introduction à la phonétique), I don't think it's necessary to avoid it in Latin. The Vikipaedia article "Linguae Khoisanae" does resort to the formulation "consonantes "clic(k)" [en] appellantur" to make it clear what it is talking about.
While it might seem nice to have a single word along the lines of "tonogensis" to refer to the origins of clicks, in English the compound "click genesis" seems to suffice. In an actual Latin text (if you're writing one about linguistics, which I don't think is an extremely common occurrence), I guess some phrase like "origo consonantum clic" might work.
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "644"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2flatin.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f11360%2fwhat-is-a-click-in-greek-or-latin%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
There are a couple of Finnish words for a click in the phonetic sense, one of them having a Latin origin.
One of the words we use is avulsiivi, which would correspond to avulsive in English but such a term does not seem to exist in this meaning in English.
The Latin word avulsio refers to the tearing out of a branch of a tree, and the Finnish phonetic term must refer to the corresponding snapping sound.
I am not sure whether other languages use a similar term, but it would be surprising to hear this to be a completely Finnish invention.
This and the other Finnish words are recorded in a well-curated scientific terminology database.
So, perhaps avulsio or something else derived from avellere could work?
add a comment |
There are a couple of Finnish words for a click in the phonetic sense, one of them having a Latin origin.
One of the words we use is avulsiivi, which would correspond to avulsive in English but such a term does not seem to exist in this meaning in English.
The Latin word avulsio refers to the tearing out of a branch of a tree, and the Finnish phonetic term must refer to the corresponding snapping sound.
I am not sure whether other languages use a similar term, but it would be surprising to hear this to be a completely Finnish invention.
This and the other Finnish words are recorded in a well-curated scientific terminology database.
So, perhaps avulsio or something else derived from avellere could work?
add a comment |
There are a couple of Finnish words for a click in the phonetic sense, one of them having a Latin origin.
One of the words we use is avulsiivi, which would correspond to avulsive in English but such a term does not seem to exist in this meaning in English.
The Latin word avulsio refers to the tearing out of a branch of a tree, and the Finnish phonetic term must refer to the corresponding snapping sound.
I am not sure whether other languages use a similar term, but it would be surprising to hear this to be a completely Finnish invention.
This and the other Finnish words are recorded in a well-curated scientific terminology database.
So, perhaps avulsio or something else derived from avellere could work?
There are a couple of Finnish words for a click in the phonetic sense, one of them having a Latin origin.
One of the words we use is avulsiivi, which would correspond to avulsive in English but such a term does not seem to exist in this meaning in English.
The Latin word avulsio refers to the tearing out of a branch of a tree, and the Finnish phonetic term must refer to the corresponding snapping sound.
I am not sure whether other languages use a similar term, but it would be surprising to hear this to be a completely Finnish invention.
This and the other Finnish words are recorded in a well-curated scientific terminology database.
So, perhaps avulsio or something else derived from avellere could work?
answered 5 hours ago
Joonas Ilmavirta♦Joonas Ilmavirta
52k12 gold badges74 silver badges310 bronze badges
52k12 gold badges74 silver badges310 bronze badges
add a comment |
add a comment |
OLD defines the noun crepitus as 'A short sharp sound or a succession of such sounds, a creaking, cracking, crashing, clashing, etc.'
This noun and related words are used to cover a fairly wide range of phenomena, such as the rattling of arrows in a quiver, the chattering of teeth, the fall of hail of a roof, the clicking of a bird's bill, the crackling of flames, the snapping of fingers, farts, the creaking of hinges, whip lashes, cymbals, the clapping of hands, and a child's rattle.
add a comment |
OLD defines the noun crepitus as 'A short sharp sound or a succession of such sounds, a creaking, cracking, crashing, clashing, etc.'
This noun and related words are used to cover a fairly wide range of phenomena, such as the rattling of arrows in a quiver, the chattering of teeth, the fall of hail of a roof, the clicking of a bird's bill, the crackling of flames, the snapping of fingers, farts, the creaking of hinges, whip lashes, cymbals, the clapping of hands, and a child's rattle.
add a comment |
OLD defines the noun crepitus as 'A short sharp sound or a succession of such sounds, a creaking, cracking, crashing, clashing, etc.'
This noun and related words are used to cover a fairly wide range of phenomena, such as the rattling of arrows in a quiver, the chattering of teeth, the fall of hail of a roof, the clicking of a bird's bill, the crackling of flames, the snapping of fingers, farts, the creaking of hinges, whip lashes, cymbals, the clapping of hands, and a child's rattle.
OLD defines the noun crepitus as 'A short sharp sound or a succession of such sounds, a creaking, cracking, crashing, clashing, etc.'
This noun and related words are used to cover a fairly wide range of phenomena, such as the rattling of arrows in a quiver, the chattering of teeth, the fall of hail of a roof, the clicking of a bird's bill, the crackling of flames, the snapping of fingers, farts, the creaking of hinges, whip lashes, cymbals, the clapping of hands, and a child's rattle.
answered 7 hours ago
cnreadcnread
9,7251 gold badge12 silver badges28 bronze badges
9,7251 gold badge12 silver badges28 bronze badges
add a comment |
add a comment |
This is kind of a "frame challenge" rather than an answer, but I feel like it would be better to just refrain from trying to find a Latin or Greek root to refer to click consonants. When trying to Google for examples of discussion of click consonants in Latin, I came across a passage containing some terrible racism. Unfortunately, there seems to be a history of linguistic racism in the study of Khoisan languages and click consonants: see the following passage from "What click languages can and can't tell us about language origins", by Bonny Sands and Tom Güldemann:
(in The Cradle of Language, edited by Rudolf Botha and Chris Knight, p. 206)
Considering this history, using an uncommon Latin or Greek root to refer to these consonant sounds seems somewhat risky to me, as it could perhaps be understood as indicating that you take a different perspective from mainstream linguistics on the nature of these sounds. Given that "click" seems to be used (with minor adapatations in spelling and pronunciation) in a number of Romance languages to refer to these sounds (e.g. French "clic": Une introduction à la phonétique), I don't think it's necessary to avoid it in Latin. The Vikipaedia article "Linguae Khoisanae" does resort to the formulation "consonantes "clic(k)" [en] appellantur" to make it clear what it is talking about.
While it might seem nice to have a single word along the lines of "tonogensis" to refer to the origins of clicks, in English the compound "click genesis" seems to suffice. In an actual Latin text (if you're writing one about linguistics, which I don't think is an extremely common occurrence), I guess some phrase like "origo consonantum clic" might work.
add a comment |
This is kind of a "frame challenge" rather than an answer, but I feel like it would be better to just refrain from trying to find a Latin or Greek root to refer to click consonants. When trying to Google for examples of discussion of click consonants in Latin, I came across a passage containing some terrible racism. Unfortunately, there seems to be a history of linguistic racism in the study of Khoisan languages and click consonants: see the following passage from "What click languages can and can't tell us about language origins", by Bonny Sands and Tom Güldemann:
(in The Cradle of Language, edited by Rudolf Botha and Chris Knight, p. 206)
Considering this history, using an uncommon Latin or Greek root to refer to these consonant sounds seems somewhat risky to me, as it could perhaps be understood as indicating that you take a different perspective from mainstream linguistics on the nature of these sounds. Given that "click" seems to be used (with minor adapatations in spelling and pronunciation) in a number of Romance languages to refer to these sounds (e.g. French "clic": Une introduction à la phonétique), I don't think it's necessary to avoid it in Latin. The Vikipaedia article "Linguae Khoisanae" does resort to the formulation "consonantes "clic(k)" [en] appellantur" to make it clear what it is talking about.
While it might seem nice to have a single word along the lines of "tonogensis" to refer to the origins of clicks, in English the compound "click genesis" seems to suffice. In an actual Latin text (if you're writing one about linguistics, which I don't think is an extremely common occurrence), I guess some phrase like "origo consonantum clic" might work.
add a comment |
This is kind of a "frame challenge" rather than an answer, but I feel like it would be better to just refrain from trying to find a Latin or Greek root to refer to click consonants. When trying to Google for examples of discussion of click consonants in Latin, I came across a passage containing some terrible racism. Unfortunately, there seems to be a history of linguistic racism in the study of Khoisan languages and click consonants: see the following passage from "What click languages can and can't tell us about language origins", by Bonny Sands and Tom Güldemann:
(in The Cradle of Language, edited by Rudolf Botha and Chris Knight, p. 206)
Considering this history, using an uncommon Latin or Greek root to refer to these consonant sounds seems somewhat risky to me, as it could perhaps be understood as indicating that you take a different perspective from mainstream linguistics on the nature of these sounds. Given that "click" seems to be used (with minor adapatations in spelling and pronunciation) in a number of Romance languages to refer to these sounds (e.g. French "clic": Une introduction à la phonétique), I don't think it's necessary to avoid it in Latin. The Vikipaedia article "Linguae Khoisanae" does resort to the formulation "consonantes "clic(k)" [en] appellantur" to make it clear what it is talking about.
While it might seem nice to have a single word along the lines of "tonogensis" to refer to the origins of clicks, in English the compound "click genesis" seems to suffice. In an actual Latin text (if you're writing one about linguistics, which I don't think is an extremely common occurrence), I guess some phrase like "origo consonantum clic" might work.
This is kind of a "frame challenge" rather than an answer, but I feel like it would be better to just refrain from trying to find a Latin or Greek root to refer to click consonants. When trying to Google for examples of discussion of click consonants in Latin, I came across a passage containing some terrible racism. Unfortunately, there seems to be a history of linguistic racism in the study of Khoisan languages and click consonants: see the following passage from "What click languages can and can't tell us about language origins", by Bonny Sands and Tom Güldemann:
(in The Cradle of Language, edited by Rudolf Botha and Chris Knight, p. 206)
Considering this history, using an uncommon Latin or Greek root to refer to these consonant sounds seems somewhat risky to me, as it could perhaps be understood as indicating that you take a different perspective from mainstream linguistics on the nature of these sounds. Given that "click" seems to be used (with minor adapatations in spelling and pronunciation) in a number of Romance languages to refer to these sounds (e.g. French "clic": Une introduction à la phonétique), I don't think it's necessary to avoid it in Latin. The Vikipaedia article "Linguae Khoisanae" does resort to the formulation "consonantes "clic(k)" [en] appellantur" to make it clear what it is talking about.
While it might seem nice to have a single word along the lines of "tonogensis" to refer to the origins of clicks, in English the compound "click genesis" seems to suffice. In an actual Latin text (if you're writing one about linguistics, which I don't think is an extremely common occurrence), I guess some phrase like "origo consonantum clic" might work.
answered 6 hours ago
sumelicsumelic
10.3k1 gold badge25 silver badges65 bronze badges
10.3k1 gold badge25 silver badges65 bronze badges
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Latin Language Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2flatin.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f11360%2fwhat-is-a-click-in-greek-or-latin%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown