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Is Eldritch Blast affected by antimagic field
Does Warlock combat just equal Eldritch Blast spam?Help me optimize a controller-warlock that doesn't just spam Eldritch BlastDoes Hellfire Warlock give me another invocation on its second level?Is a Warlock Eldritch Blast/Invocation use unlimited?Can a Sorcerer-3/Warlock-2 cast a subtle healing word and a quickened eldritch blast in the same turn?Can a warlock use Eldritch Smite in an antimagic field?What happens if a warlock has both Repelling Blast and Grasp of Hadar?When casting Eldritch Blast with the Agonizing Blast eldritch invocation, what do I add to my damage roll?Eldritch blast on a non-warlock
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I am working on a campaign in 3.5e and the big baddy is a hellfire warlock. When the players are going through the campaign I am guessing they will be around level 4 at this point. My question is, because there is an NPC at level 15 to even the playing field a bit, does and antimagic field cancel out an eldritch blast?
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I am working on a campaign in 3.5e and the big baddy is a hellfire warlock. When the players are going through the campaign I am guessing they will be around level 4 at this point. My question is, because there is an NPC at level 15 to even the playing field a bit, does and antimagic field cancel out an eldritch blast?
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I am working on a campaign in 3.5e and the big baddy is a hellfire warlock. When the players are going through the campaign I am guessing they will be around level 4 at this point. My question is, because there is an NPC at level 15 to even the playing field a bit, does and antimagic field cancel out an eldritch blast?
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I am working on a campaign in 3.5e and the big baddy is a hellfire warlock. When the players are going through the campaign I am guessing they will be around level 4 at this point. My question is, because there is an NPC at level 15 to even the playing field a bit, does and antimagic field cancel out an eldritch blast?
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Eldritch blast is a spell-like ability, which means it cannot be cast while the warlock is within the antimagic field, and the beam itself is suppressed within the field, so it cannot hit a target within the field. As normal, the blast is not blocked by the field, so a warlock outside the field could cast eldritch blast through the field to get a target on the far side of it.
Hellfire blast does not change any of this.
Vitriolic blast is a greater eldritch essence invocation, and converts eldritch blast to an SR: No acid-damage conjuration. It isn’t specifically called out, but instantaneous SR: No conjuration (creation) spells like acid arrow can be cast into antimagic field by a caster outside of it. The logic here is that the magic creates and propels some physical substance, like acid, from there after it’s just physics and chemistry—nothing antimagic field can interfere with. I have always rules that vitriolic blast operates in the same manner and has the same benefit. And every warlock with greater invocations and any interest in blasting should have vitriolic blast, regardless of your ruling, for dealing with SR.
Anyway, it’s not immediately clear whether you can apply hellfire blast and vitriolic blast at the same time, or what happens if you do. Certainly, hellfire blast sounds similar to an eldritch essence, but it never actually says it is one or that you cannot also use one on the hellfire blast. But even if you do, can vitriolic blast turn hellfire into acid? Does it still deal the extra damage if you do? Officially, the answer is “yes,” because nothing nixes that combination and ordering, but it’s worth thinking about.
Finally, a note on balance—the warlock class is vastly weaker than anyone who can cast antimagic field. Be careful about trying to counter the warlock in the name of “balance”—it is already on the weaker side. That said, casting antimagic field is almost-always a self-nerf—it covers a small area, which must include you, who by definition are a high-level spellcaster. Your enemies can easily stand outside it and pelt you with arrows, or those aforementioned instantaneous SR: No creation spells.
But all of that is irrelevant because 4th-level characters cannot meaningfully play the game alongside or in opposition to 15th-level characters. Actually, they’d have a really hard time contributions meaningfully with or against 7th-level characters, and you want to more than double that. This will not be an encounter, this will be a cutscene. Which, in my opinion, doesn’t make got a great gaming experience, though YMMV.
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
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Eldritch blast is a spell-like ability, which means it cannot be cast while the warlock is within the antimagic field, and the beam itself is suppressed within the field, so it cannot hit a target within the field. As normal, the blast is not blocked by the field, so a warlock outside the field could cast eldritch blast through the field to get a target on the far side of it.
Hellfire blast does not change any of this.
Vitriolic blast is a greater eldritch essence invocation, and converts eldritch blast to an SR: No acid-damage conjuration. It isn’t specifically called out, but instantaneous SR: No conjuration (creation) spells like acid arrow can be cast into antimagic field by a caster outside of it. The logic here is that the magic creates and propels some physical substance, like acid, from there after it’s just physics and chemistry—nothing antimagic field can interfere with. I have always rules that vitriolic blast operates in the same manner and has the same benefit. And every warlock with greater invocations and any interest in blasting should have vitriolic blast, regardless of your ruling, for dealing with SR.
Anyway, it’s not immediately clear whether you can apply hellfire blast and vitriolic blast at the same time, or what happens if you do. Certainly, hellfire blast sounds similar to an eldritch essence, but it never actually says it is one or that you cannot also use one on the hellfire blast. But even if you do, can vitriolic blast turn hellfire into acid? Does it still deal the extra damage if you do? Officially, the answer is “yes,” because nothing nixes that combination and ordering, but it’s worth thinking about.
Finally, a note on balance—the warlock class is vastly weaker than anyone who can cast antimagic field. Be careful about trying to counter the warlock in the name of “balance”—it is already on the weaker side. That said, casting antimagic field is almost-always a self-nerf—it covers a small area, which must include you, who by definition are a high-level spellcaster. Your enemies can easily stand outside it and pelt you with arrows, or those aforementioned instantaneous SR: No creation spells.
But all of that is irrelevant because 4th-level characters cannot meaningfully play the game alongside or in opposition to 15th-level characters. Actually, they’d have a really hard time contributions meaningfully with or against 7th-level characters, and you want to more than double that. This will not be an encounter, this will be a cutscene. Which, in my opinion, doesn’t make got a great gaming experience, though YMMV.
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
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Eldritch blast is a spell-like ability, which means it cannot be cast while the warlock is within the antimagic field, and the beam itself is suppressed within the field, so it cannot hit a target within the field. As normal, the blast is not blocked by the field, so a warlock outside the field could cast eldritch blast through the field to get a target on the far side of it.
Hellfire blast does not change any of this.
Vitriolic blast is a greater eldritch essence invocation, and converts eldritch blast to an SR: No acid-damage conjuration. It isn’t specifically called out, but instantaneous SR: No conjuration (creation) spells like acid arrow can be cast into antimagic field by a caster outside of it. The logic here is that the magic creates and propels some physical substance, like acid, from there after it’s just physics and chemistry—nothing antimagic field can interfere with. I have always rules that vitriolic blast operates in the same manner and has the same benefit. And every warlock with greater invocations and any interest in blasting should have vitriolic blast, regardless of your ruling, for dealing with SR.
Anyway, it’s not immediately clear whether you can apply hellfire blast and vitriolic blast at the same time, or what happens if you do. Certainly, hellfire blast sounds similar to an eldritch essence, but it never actually says it is one or that you cannot also use one on the hellfire blast. But even if you do, can vitriolic blast turn hellfire into acid? Does it still deal the extra damage if you do? Officially, the answer is “yes,” because nothing nixes that combination and ordering, but it’s worth thinking about.
Finally, a note on balance—the warlock class is vastly weaker than anyone who can cast antimagic field. Be careful about trying to counter the warlock in the name of “balance”—it is already on the weaker side. That said, casting antimagic field is almost-always a self-nerf—it covers a small area, which must include you, who by definition are a high-level spellcaster. Your enemies can easily stand outside it and pelt you with arrows, or those aforementioned instantaneous SR: No creation spells.
But all of that is irrelevant because 4th-level characters cannot meaningfully play the game alongside or in opposition to 15th-level characters. Actually, they’d have a really hard time contributions meaningfully with or against 7th-level characters, and you want to more than double that. This will not be an encounter, this will be a cutscene. Which, in my opinion, doesn’t make got a great gaming experience, though YMMV.
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
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– Wannabe Warlock
1 hour ago
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$begingroup$
Eldritch blast is a spell-like ability, which means it cannot be cast while the warlock is within the antimagic field, and the beam itself is suppressed within the field, so it cannot hit a target within the field. As normal, the blast is not blocked by the field, so a warlock outside the field could cast eldritch blast through the field to get a target on the far side of it.
Hellfire blast does not change any of this.
Vitriolic blast is a greater eldritch essence invocation, and converts eldritch blast to an SR: No acid-damage conjuration. It isn’t specifically called out, but instantaneous SR: No conjuration (creation) spells like acid arrow can be cast into antimagic field by a caster outside of it. The logic here is that the magic creates and propels some physical substance, like acid, from there after it’s just physics and chemistry—nothing antimagic field can interfere with. I have always rules that vitriolic blast operates in the same manner and has the same benefit. And every warlock with greater invocations and any interest in blasting should have vitriolic blast, regardless of your ruling, for dealing with SR.
Anyway, it’s not immediately clear whether you can apply hellfire blast and vitriolic blast at the same time, or what happens if you do. Certainly, hellfire blast sounds similar to an eldritch essence, but it never actually says it is one or that you cannot also use one on the hellfire blast. But even if you do, can vitriolic blast turn hellfire into acid? Does it still deal the extra damage if you do? Officially, the answer is “yes,” because nothing nixes that combination and ordering, but it’s worth thinking about.
Finally, a note on balance—the warlock class is vastly weaker than anyone who can cast antimagic field. Be careful about trying to counter the warlock in the name of “balance”—it is already on the weaker side. That said, casting antimagic field is almost-always a self-nerf—it covers a small area, which must include you, who by definition are a high-level spellcaster. Your enemies can easily stand outside it and pelt you with arrows, or those aforementioned instantaneous SR: No creation spells.
But all of that is irrelevant because 4th-level characters cannot meaningfully play the game alongside or in opposition to 15th-level characters. Actually, they’d have a really hard time contributions meaningfully with or against 7th-level characters, and you want to more than double that. This will not be an encounter, this will be a cutscene. Which, in my opinion, doesn’t make got a great gaming experience, though YMMV.
$endgroup$
Eldritch blast is a spell-like ability, which means it cannot be cast while the warlock is within the antimagic field, and the beam itself is suppressed within the field, so it cannot hit a target within the field. As normal, the blast is not blocked by the field, so a warlock outside the field could cast eldritch blast through the field to get a target on the far side of it.
Hellfire blast does not change any of this.
Vitriolic blast is a greater eldritch essence invocation, and converts eldritch blast to an SR: No acid-damage conjuration. It isn’t specifically called out, but instantaneous SR: No conjuration (creation) spells like acid arrow can be cast into antimagic field by a caster outside of it. The logic here is that the magic creates and propels some physical substance, like acid, from there after it’s just physics and chemistry—nothing antimagic field can interfere with. I have always rules that vitriolic blast operates in the same manner and has the same benefit. And every warlock with greater invocations and any interest in blasting should have vitriolic blast, regardless of your ruling, for dealing with SR.
Anyway, it’s not immediately clear whether you can apply hellfire blast and vitriolic blast at the same time, or what happens if you do. Certainly, hellfire blast sounds similar to an eldritch essence, but it never actually says it is one or that you cannot also use one on the hellfire blast. But even if you do, can vitriolic blast turn hellfire into acid? Does it still deal the extra damage if you do? Officially, the answer is “yes,” because nothing nixes that combination and ordering, but it’s worth thinking about.
Finally, a note on balance—the warlock class is vastly weaker than anyone who can cast antimagic field. Be careful about trying to counter the warlock in the name of “balance”—it is already on the weaker side. That said, casting antimagic field is almost-always a self-nerf—it covers a small area, which must include you, who by definition are a high-level spellcaster. Your enemies can easily stand outside it and pelt you with arrows, or those aforementioned instantaneous SR: No creation spells.
But all of that is irrelevant because 4th-level characters cannot meaningfully play the game alongside or in opposition to 15th-level characters. Actually, they’d have a really hard time contributions meaningfully with or against 7th-level characters, and you want to more than double that. This will not be an encounter, this will be a cutscene. Which, in my opinion, doesn’t make got a great gaming experience, though YMMV.
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
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– Wannabe Warlock
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
$endgroup$
– Wannabe Warlock
1 hour ago
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
$endgroup$
– Wannabe Warlock
1 hour ago
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The language of hellfire blast very strongly implies that hellfire blast is an eldritch essence invocation and would only be compatible with blast shape invocations. That is because only eldritch essence invocations change the name and effect-on-targets of an eldritch blast, while blast shape invocations do not change the name and simply adjust the area of effect or targets of an eldritch blast.
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– Wannabe Warlock
1 hour ago
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