Proof that shortest path with negative cycles is NP hard

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Proof that shortest path with negative cycles is NP hard














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I'm looking into the shortest path problem and am wondering how to prove that shortest path with neg. cycles is NP-hard. (Or is it NPC? Is there a way to validate in P time that the path really is shortest?)



How would I reduce the SAT problem into the shortest path problem in polynomial time?










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    Do you have to reduce from SAT? A simple reduction is from Hamiltonian path.
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    The decision version of your problem is: Given a graph and a number $ell$, is there a path whose length is shorter than $ell$? This is clearly in NP.
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I'm looking into the shortest path problem and am wondering how to prove that shortest path with neg. cycles is NP-hard. (Or is it NPC? Is there a way to validate in P time that the path really is shortest?)



How would I reduce the SAT problem into the shortest path problem in polynomial time?










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    Do you have to reduce from SAT? A simple reduction is from Hamiltonian path.
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    – Juho
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    The decision version of your problem is: Given a graph and a number $ell$, is there a path whose length is shorter than $ell$? This is clearly in NP.
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    – Yuval Filmus
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I'm looking into the shortest path problem and am wondering how to prove that shortest path with neg. cycles is NP-hard. (Or is it NPC? Is there a way to validate in P time that the path really is shortest?)



How would I reduce the SAT problem into the shortest path problem in polynomial time?










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I'm looking into the shortest path problem and am wondering how to prove that shortest path with neg. cycles is NP-hard. (Or is it NPC? Is there a way to validate in P time that the path really is shortest?)



How would I reduce the SAT problem into the shortest path problem in polynomial time?







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    $begingroup$
    Do you have to reduce from SAT? A simple reduction is from Hamiltonian path.
    $endgroup$
    – Juho
    14 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    The decision version of your problem is: Given a graph and a number $ell$, is there a path whose length is shorter than $ell$? This is clearly in NP.
    $endgroup$
    – Yuval Filmus
    6 hours ago












  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Do you have to reduce from SAT? A simple reduction is from Hamiltonian path.
    $endgroup$
    – Juho
    14 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    The decision version of your problem is: Given a graph and a number $ell$, is there a path whose length is shorter than $ell$? This is clearly in NP.
    $endgroup$
    – Yuval Filmus
    6 hours ago







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$begingroup$
Do you have to reduce from SAT? A simple reduction is from Hamiltonian path.
$endgroup$
– Juho
14 hours ago





$begingroup$
Do you have to reduce from SAT? A simple reduction is from Hamiltonian path.
$endgroup$
– Juho
14 hours ago













$begingroup$
The decision version of your problem is: Given a graph and a number $ell$, is there a path whose length is shorter than $ell$? This is clearly in NP.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
The decision version of your problem is: Given a graph and a number $ell$, is there a path whose length is shorter than $ell$? This is clearly in NP.
$endgroup$
– Yuval Filmus
6 hours ago










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Paths with no repeated vertices are called simple-paths, so you are looking for the shortest simple-path in a graph with negative-cycles.



This can be reduced from the longest-path problem. If there were a fast solver for your problem, then given a graph with only positive edge-weights, negating all the edge-weights and running your solver would give the longest path in the original graph.



Thus your problem is NP-Hard.






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    Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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Paths with no repeated vertices are called simple-paths, so you are looking for the shortest simple-path in a graph with negative-cycles.



This can be reduced from the longest-path problem. If there were a fast solver for your problem, then given a graph with only positive edge-weights, negating all the edge-weights and running your solver would give the longest path in the original graph.



Thus your problem is NP-Hard.






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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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Copied from my answer on cstheory.stackexchange.com:




Paths with no repeated vertices are called simple-paths, so you are looking for the shortest simple-path in a graph with negative-cycles.



This can be reduced from the longest-path problem. If there were a fast solver for your problem, then given a graph with only positive edge-weights, negating all the edge-weights and running your solver would give the longest path in the original graph.



Thus your problem is NP-Hard.






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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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Copied from my answer on cstheory.stackexchange.com:




Paths with no repeated vertices are called simple-paths, so you are looking for the shortest simple-path in a graph with negative-cycles.



This can be reduced from the longest-path problem. If there were a fast solver for your problem, then given a graph with only positive edge-weights, negating all the edge-weights and running your solver would give the longest path in the original graph.



Thus your problem is NP-Hard.






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Paths with no repeated vertices are called simple-paths, so you are looking for the shortest simple-path in a graph with negative-cycles.



This can be reduced from the longest-path problem. If there were a fast solver for your problem, then given a graph with only positive edge-weights, negating all the edge-weights and running your solver would give the longest path in the original graph.



Thus your problem is NP-Hard.







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    Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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    – Tin Man
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$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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$begingroup$
Thanks for the answer. While I was looking for a conversion from SAT (as, based on Cook's theorem, it's what I know to be NPC), connecting the dots led me to "Hamiltonian path to longest path" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_path_problem#NP-hardness and then "3SAT to Hamiltonian path" geeksforgeeks.org/proof-hamiltonian-path-np-complete
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