Orange material in grout lines - need help to identify

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Having recently moved into a new (resale) house, I looked closely at the grout lines on one of the tiled shower floors and noticed many small gaps in the grout lines with an unidentified orange material in the gaps. I've attached a picture.



Obviously this grout is not in good condition and needs to be replaced; however, does anyone know what the orange material in the grout lines is? It appears to be coming from underneath and is raised into the gaps between the tiles, so occupies some of the cavity where the grout would normally go.



Thanks for any suggestions.



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  • could be a heated floor? Could also be that someone placed spacers during the tiling process and left them in. Are they hard or soft feeling?

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago











  • Not sure about heated floor - if it is, there's no obvious way to control it. They are hard feeling - they didn't give at all when prodded.

    – mattbg
    6 hours ago











  • y guess then, would be that they left the tile spacers in there when the tile was laid. Unless someone else has an idea, that would be my guess. Most of the spacers I have seen and I have used, are a cross type, plastic/silicone, that you place standing up, between tiles, so that once the tile has set, before you grout, you go along and pull them up. One end goes between the tiles, the horizontal parts rest on the tile, and the other piece points up so you can grab it. Some come in 2 different sizes on each cross, others are one size on all 4 sides.

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago






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    Not enough grout installed. Or mixed wrong. And membrane showing.

    – Robert Moody
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    I don’t see grout. I only see the mortar that the tiles were set in.

    – UnhandledExcepSean
    3 hours ago

















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Having recently moved into a new (resale) house, I looked closely at the grout lines on one of the tiled shower floors and noticed many small gaps in the grout lines with an unidentified orange material in the gaps. I've attached a picture.



Obviously this grout is not in good condition and needs to be replaced; however, does anyone know what the orange material in the grout lines is? It appears to be coming from underneath and is raised into the gaps between the tiles, so occupies some of the cavity where the grout would normally go.



Thanks for any suggestions.



Grout lines containing unidentified orange material










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  • could be a heated floor? Could also be that someone placed spacers during the tiling process and left them in. Are they hard or soft feeling?

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago











  • Not sure about heated floor - if it is, there's no obvious way to control it. They are hard feeling - they didn't give at all when prodded.

    – mattbg
    6 hours ago











  • y guess then, would be that they left the tile spacers in there when the tile was laid. Unless someone else has an idea, that would be my guess. Most of the spacers I have seen and I have used, are a cross type, plastic/silicone, that you place standing up, between tiles, so that once the tile has set, before you grout, you go along and pull them up. One end goes between the tiles, the horizontal parts rest on the tile, and the other piece points up so you can grab it. Some come in 2 different sizes on each cross, others are one size on all 4 sides.

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Not enough grout installed. Or mixed wrong. And membrane showing.

    – Robert Moody
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    I don’t see grout. I only see the mortar that the tiles were set in.

    – UnhandledExcepSean
    3 hours ago













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Having recently moved into a new (resale) house, I looked closely at the grout lines on one of the tiled shower floors and noticed many small gaps in the grout lines with an unidentified orange material in the gaps. I've attached a picture.



Obviously this grout is not in good condition and needs to be replaced; however, does anyone know what the orange material in the grout lines is? It appears to be coming from underneath and is raised into the gaps between the tiles, so occupies some of the cavity where the grout would normally go.



Thanks for any suggestions.



Grout lines containing unidentified orange material










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Having recently moved into a new (resale) house, I looked closely at the grout lines on one of the tiled shower floors and noticed many small gaps in the grout lines with an unidentified orange material in the gaps. I've attached a picture.



Obviously this grout is not in good condition and needs to be replaced; however, does anyone know what the orange material in the grout lines is? It appears to be coming from underneath and is raised into the gaps between the tiles, so occupies some of the cavity where the grout would normally go.



Thanks for any suggestions.



Grout lines containing unidentified orange material







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  • could be a heated floor? Could also be that someone placed spacers during the tiling process and left them in. Are they hard or soft feeling?

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago











  • Not sure about heated floor - if it is, there's no obvious way to control it. They are hard feeling - they didn't give at all when prodded.

    – mattbg
    6 hours ago











  • y guess then, would be that they left the tile spacers in there when the tile was laid. Unless someone else has an idea, that would be my guess. Most of the spacers I have seen and I have used, are a cross type, plastic/silicone, that you place standing up, between tiles, so that once the tile has set, before you grout, you go along and pull them up. One end goes between the tiles, the horizontal parts rest on the tile, and the other piece points up so you can grab it. Some come in 2 different sizes on each cross, others are one size on all 4 sides.

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Not enough grout installed. Or mixed wrong. And membrane showing.

    – Robert Moody
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    I don’t see grout. I only see the mortar that the tiles were set in.

    – UnhandledExcepSean
    3 hours ago

















  • could be a heated floor? Could also be that someone placed spacers during the tiling process and left them in. Are they hard or soft feeling?

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago











  • Not sure about heated floor - if it is, there's no obvious way to control it. They are hard feeling - they didn't give at all when prodded.

    – mattbg
    6 hours ago











  • y guess then, would be that they left the tile spacers in there when the tile was laid. Unless someone else has an idea, that would be my guess. Most of the spacers I have seen and I have used, are a cross type, plastic/silicone, that you place standing up, between tiles, so that once the tile has set, before you grout, you go along and pull them up. One end goes between the tiles, the horizontal parts rest on the tile, and the other piece points up so you can grab it. Some come in 2 different sizes on each cross, others are one size on all 4 sides.

    – Jeff Cates
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Not enough grout installed. Or mixed wrong. And membrane showing.

    – Robert Moody
    3 hours ago






  • 1





    I don’t see grout. I only see the mortar that the tiles were set in.

    – UnhandledExcepSean
    3 hours ago
















could be a heated floor? Could also be that someone placed spacers during the tiling process and left them in. Are they hard or soft feeling?

– Jeff Cates
6 hours ago





could be a heated floor? Could also be that someone placed spacers during the tiling process and left them in. Are they hard or soft feeling?

– Jeff Cates
6 hours ago













Not sure about heated floor - if it is, there's no obvious way to control it. They are hard feeling - they didn't give at all when prodded.

– mattbg
6 hours ago





Not sure about heated floor - if it is, there's no obvious way to control it. They are hard feeling - they didn't give at all when prodded.

– mattbg
6 hours ago













y guess then, would be that they left the tile spacers in there when the tile was laid. Unless someone else has an idea, that would be my guess. Most of the spacers I have seen and I have used, are a cross type, plastic/silicone, that you place standing up, between tiles, so that once the tile has set, before you grout, you go along and pull them up. One end goes between the tiles, the horizontal parts rest on the tile, and the other piece points up so you can grab it. Some come in 2 different sizes on each cross, others are one size on all 4 sides.

– Jeff Cates
6 hours ago





y guess then, would be that they left the tile spacers in there when the tile was laid. Unless someone else has an idea, that would be my guess. Most of the spacers I have seen and I have used, are a cross type, plastic/silicone, that you place standing up, between tiles, so that once the tile has set, before you grout, you go along and pull them up. One end goes between the tiles, the horizontal parts rest on the tile, and the other piece points up so you can grab it. Some come in 2 different sizes on each cross, others are one size on all 4 sides.

– Jeff Cates
6 hours ago




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Not enough grout installed. Or mixed wrong. And membrane showing.

– Robert Moody
3 hours ago





Not enough grout installed. Or mixed wrong. And membrane showing.

– Robert Moody
3 hours ago




1




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I don’t see grout. I only see the mortar that the tiles were set in.

– UnhandledExcepSean
3 hours ago





I don’t see grout. I only see the mortar that the tiles were set in.

– UnhandledExcepSean
3 hours ago










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Looks like schluter ditra waterproofing membrane. enter image description here



Amazon describes it:




This universal underlayment specifically designed for ceramic and stone tile eliminates the main cause of cracking in your tile installation. Tile and stone are rigid materials and are, therefore, sensitive to stresses originating in the sub floor. This uncoupling membrane allows independent movement between the sub floor and the finished surface, thereby neutralizing these stresses. Exclusively designed for ceramic and stone tile Waterproofs and allows moisture in the substrate to evaporate Replaces backerboard or a second layer of plywood 1/8 in. thick makes transitioning to other surfaces simple Ideal for interior and exterior tile and stone installations Easy to instal







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    This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

    – Aloysius Defenestrate
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

    – mattbg
    3 hours ago












  • @mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

    – Kris
    3 hours ago












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Looks like schluter ditra waterproofing membrane. enter image description here



Amazon describes it:




This universal underlayment specifically designed for ceramic and stone tile eliminates the main cause of cracking in your tile installation. Tile and stone are rigid materials and are, therefore, sensitive to stresses originating in the sub floor. This uncoupling membrane allows independent movement between the sub floor and the finished surface, thereby neutralizing these stresses. Exclusively designed for ceramic and stone tile Waterproofs and allows moisture in the substrate to evaporate Replaces backerboard or a second layer of plywood 1/8 in. thick makes transitioning to other surfaces simple Ideal for interior and exterior tile and stone installations Easy to instal







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    This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

    – Aloysius Defenestrate
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

    – mattbg
    3 hours ago












  • @mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

    – Kris
    3 hours ago
















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Looks like schluter ditra waterproofing membrane. enter image description here



Amazon describes it:




This universal underlayment specifically designed for ceramic and stone tile eliminates the main cause of cracking in your tile installation. Tile and stone are rigid materials and are, therefore, sensitive to stresses originating in the sub floor. This uncoupling membrane allows independent movement between the sub floor and the finished surface, thereby neutralizing these stresses. Exclusively designed for ceramic and stone tile Waterproofs and allows moisture in the substrate to evaporate Replaces backerboard or a second layer of plywood 1/8 in. thick makes transitioning to other surfaces simple Ideal for interior and exterior tile and stone installations Easy to instal







share|improve this answer


















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    This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

    – Aloysius Defenestrate
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

    – mattbg
    3 hours ago












  • @mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

    – Kris
    3 hours ago














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Looks like schluter ditra waterproofing membrane. enter image description here



Amazon describes it:




This universal underlayment specifically designed for ceramic and stone tile eliminates the main cause of cracking in your tile installation. Tile and stone are rigid materials and are, therefore, sensitive to stresses originating in the sub floor. This uncoupling membrane allows independent movement between the sub floor and the finished surface, thereby neutralizing these stresses. Exclusively designed for ceramic and stone tile Waterproofs and allows moisture in the substrate to evaporate Replaces backerboard or a second layer of plywood 1/8 in. thick makes transitioning to other surfaces simple Ideal for interior and exterior tile and stone installations Easy to instal







share|improve this answer













Looks like schluter ditra waterproofing membrane. enter image description here



Amazon describes it:




This universal underlayment specifically designed for ceramic and stone tile eliminates the main cause of cracking in your tile installation. Tile and stone are rigid materials and are, therefore, sensitive to stresses originating in the sub floor. This uncoupling membrane allows independent movement between the sub floor and the finished surface, thereby neutralizing these stresses. Exclusively designed for ceramic and stone tile Waterproofs and allows moisture in the substrate to evaporate Replaces backerboard or a second layer of plywood 1/8 in. thick makes transitioning to other surfaces simple Ideal for interior and exterior tile and stone installations Easy to instal








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    This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

    – Aloysius Defenestrate
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

    – mattbg
    3 hours ago












  • @mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

    – Kris
    3 hours ago













  • 2





    This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

    – Aloysius Defenestrate
    3 hours ago











  • Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

    – mattbg
    3 hours ago












  • @mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

    – Kris
    3 hours ago








2




2





This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

– Aloysius Defenestrate
3 hours ago





This^^^. Two notes: don't cut it when re-grouting. And Ditra is generally associated with better quality installs, so you've got that going for you.

– Aloysius Defenestrate
3 hours ago













Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

– mattbg
3 hours ago






Thanks all - would you expect Ditra to occupy space between the tiles? It looks like it would only be underneath but I don’t have much experience in this area.

– mattbg
3 hours ago














@mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

– Kris
3 hours ago






@mattbg Looks almost like the tile was installed with thinset mortar over ditra and never grouted.

– Kris
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