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    Note that what you call "iconic" is pretty much the definition of a graphical user interface; mc is a text user interface, or TUI.

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    You say "does" (present tense). Are you asking if any later-developed GUIs like X11 or SVGAlib could run on a Linux 0.0.1 kernel, and mess around with a VGA card from user-space?

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  • An interview with David Dawes provides some historical details from 1991 on. 1991, the year Linux was conceived, incidentally (or not) was also the first year i386 code (for other *nixes) was incorporated into X11.

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    Note that what you call "iconic" is pretty much the definition of a graphical user interface; mc is a text user interface, or TUI.

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    You say "does" (present tense). Are you asking if any later-developed GUIs like X11 or SVGAlib could run on a Linux 0.0.1 kernel, and mess around with a VGA card from user-space?

    – Peter Cordes
    19 hours ago











  • An interview with David Dawes provides some historical details from 1991 on. 1991, the year Linux was conceived, incidentally (or not) was also the first year i386 code (for other *nixes) was incorporated into X11.

    – Peter A. Schneider
    17 hours ago






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    Linux today does not have a GUI so I don't understand what you mean.

    – pipe
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  • 3





    Note that what you call "iconic" is pretty much the definition of a graphical user interface; mc is a text user interface, or TUI.

    – chrylis
    23 hours ago






  • 1





    You say "does" (present tense). Are you asking if any later-developed GUIs like X11 or SVGAlib could run on a Linux 0.0.1 kernel, and mess around with a VGA card from user-space?

    – Peter Cordes
    19 hours ago











  • An interview with David Dawes provides some historical details from 1991 on. 1991, the year Linux was conceived, incidentally (or not) was also the first year i386 code (for other *nixes) was incorporated into X11.

    – Peter A. Schneider
    17 hours ago






  • 5





    Linux today does not have a GUI so I don't understand what you mean.

    – pipe
    17 hours ago






  • 3





    @JohnDoea The downvote button literally says "does not show any research effort" so you might take that into consideration before asking.

    – pipe
    5 hours ago












  • 3





    Note that what you call "iconic" is pretty much the definition of a graphical user interface; mc is a text user interface, or TUI.

    – chrylis
    23 hours ago






  • 1





    You say "does" (present tense). Are you asking if any later-developed GUIs like X11 or SVGAlib could run on a Linux 0.0.1 kernel, and mess around with a VGA card from user-space?

    – Peter Cordes
    19 hours ago











  • An interview with David Dawes provides some historical details from 1991 on. 1991, the year Linux was conceived, incidentally (or not) was also the first year i386 code (for other *nixes) was incorporated into X11.

    – Peter A. Schneider
    17 hours ago






  • 5





    Linux today does not have a GUI so I don't understand what you mean.

    – pipe
    17 hours ago






  • 3





    @JohnDoea The downvote button literally says "does not show any research effort" so you might take that into consideration before asking.

    – pipe
    5 hours ago







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Note that what you call "iconic" is pretty much the definition of a graphical user interface; mc is a text user interface, or TUI.

– chrylis
23 hours ago





Note that what you call "iconic" is pretty much the definition of a graphical user interface; mc is a text user interface, or TUI.

– chrylis
23 hours ago




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You say "does" (present tense). Are you asking if any later-developed GUIs like X11 or SVGAlib could run on a Linux 0.0.1 kernel, and mess around with a VGA card from user-space?

– Peter Cordes
19 hours ago





You say "does" (present tense). Are you asking if any later-developed GUIs like X11 or SVGAlib could run on a Linux 0.0.1 kernel, and mess around with a VGA card from user-space?

– Peter Cordes
19 hours ago













An interview with David Dawes provides some historical details from 1991 on. 1991, the year Linux was conceived, incidentally (or not) was also the first year i386 code (for other *nixes) was incorporated into X11.

– Peter A. Schneider
17 hours ago





An interview with David Dawes provides some historical details from 1991 on. 1991, the year Linux was conceived, incidentally (or not) was also the first year i386 code (for other *nixes) was incorporated into X11.

– Peter A. Schneider
17 hours ago




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Linux today does not have a GUI so I don't understand what you mean.

– pipe
17 hours ago





Linux today does not have a GUI so I don't understand what you mean.

– pipe
17 hours ago




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@JohnDoea The downvote button literally says "does not show any research effort" so you might take that into consideration before asking.

– pipe
5 hours ago





@JohnDoea The downvote button literally says "does not show any research effort" so you might take that into consideration before asking.

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Note, Linux is only a kernel, like msdos.sys in DOS or krnl386.exe in Windows.



No. It had no GUI, it was purely command line.



In Linus' initial statement, roughly with the release of the Linux kernel 0.0.1, we said, he ported bash and gcc to it. He ported probably also the most important GNU tools (make and fileutils (today part of coreutils)).




I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).



I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to
work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few
months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want.
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them
:-)




Note: This initial mail looks a little bit self-advertising and flamish with the eyes of the today, but it is better to not see that post from the current culture.



Although X11 was ported to it in in years, roughly in 19931. It was a huge work, much bigger than writing the kernel itself, but having the kernel, also the X11 port appeared.



The today obsolete SVGAlib appeared roughly also in that year1.



1I did not find a reference on the net for that, except my remembers.





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    Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

    – forest
    21 hours ago







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    @forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

    – R..
    14 hours ago






  • 6





    The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

    – a CVn
    14 hours ago






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  • Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

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Note, Linux is only a kernel, like msdos.sys in DOS or krnl386.exe in Windows.



No. It had no GUI, it was purely command line.



In Linus' initial statement, roughly with the release of the Linux kernel 0.0.1, we said, he ported bash and gcc to it. He ported probably also the most important GNU tools (make and fileutils (today part of coreutils)).




I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).



I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to
work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few
months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want.
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them
:-)




Note: This initial mail looks a little bit self-advertising and flamish with the eyes of the today, but it is better to not see that post from the current culture.



Although X11 was ported to it in in years, roughly in 19931. It was a huge work, much bigger than writing the kernel itself, but having the kernel, also the X11 port appeared.



The today obsolete SVGAlib appeared roughly also in that year1.



1I did not find a reference on the net for that, except my remembers.





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  • 30





    Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

    – forest
    21 hours ago







  • 2





    @forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

    – R..
    14 hours ago






  • 6





    The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

    – a CVn
    14 hours ago






  • 4





    It's better not to see anything from "the current culture" if you value things like facts and reality.

    – hobbs
    12 hours ago











  • Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

    – jwh20
    10 hours ago















26














Note, Linux is only a kernel, like msdos.sys in DOS or krnl386.exe in Windows.



No. It had no GUI, it was purely command line.



In Linus' initial statement, roughly with the release of the Linux kernel 0.0.1, we said, he ported bash and gcc to it. He ported probably also the most important GNU tools (make and fileutils (today part of coreutils)).




I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).



I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to
work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few
months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want.
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them
:-)




Note: This initial mail looks a little bit self-advertising and flamish with the eyes of the today, but it is better to not see that post from the current culture.



Although X11 was ported to it in in years, roughly in 19931. It was a huge work, much bigger than writing the kernel itself, but having the kernel, also the X11 port appeared.



The today obsolete SVGAlib appeared roughly also in that year1.



1I did not find a reference on the net for that, except my remembers.





share


















  • 30





    Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

    – forest
    21 hours ago







  • 2





    @forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

    – R..
    14 hours ago






  • 6





    The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

    – a CVn
    14 hours ago






  • 4





    It's better not to see anything from "the current culture" if you value things like facts and reality.

    – hobbs
    12 hours ago











  • Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

    – jwh20
    10 hours ago













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26







Note, Linux is only a kernel, like msdos.sys in DOS or krnl386.exe in Windows.



No. It had no GUI, it was purely command line.



In Linus' initial statement, roughly with the release of the Linux kernel 0.0.1, we said, he ported bash and gcc to it. He ported probably also the most important GNU tools (make and fileutils (today part of coreutils)).




I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).



I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to
work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few
months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want.
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them
:-)




Note: This initial mail looks a little bit self-advertising and flamish with the eyes of the today, but it is better to not see that post from the current culture.



Although X11 was ported to it in in years, roughly in 19931. It was a huge work, much bigger than writing the kernel itself, but having the kernel, also the X11 port appeared.



The today obsolete SVGAlib appeared roughly also in that year1.



1I did not find a reference on the net for that, except my remembers.





share













Note, Linux is only a kernel, like msdos.sys in DOS or krnl386.exe in Windows.



No. It had no GUI, it was purely command line.



In Linus' initial statement, roughly with the release of the Linux kernel 0.0.1, we said, he ported bash and gcc to it. He ported probably also the most important GNU tools (make and fileutils (today part of coreutils)).




I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).



I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to
work. This implies that I'll get something practical within a few
months, and I'd like to know what features most people would want.
Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them
:-)




Note: This initial mail looks a little bit self-advertising and flamish with the eyes of the today, but it is better to not see that post from the current culture.



Although X11 was ported to it in in years, roughly in 19931. It was a huge work, much bigger than writing the kernel itself, but having the kernel, also the X11 port appeared.



The today obsolete SVGAlib appeared roughly also in that year1.



1I did not find a reference on the net for that, except my remembers.






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    Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

    – forest
    21 hours ago







  • 2





    @forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

    – R..
    14 hours ago






  • 6





    The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

    – a CVn
    14 hours ago






  • 4





    It's better not to see anything from "the current culture" if you value things like facts and reality.

    – hobbs
    12 hours ago











  • Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

    – jwh20
    10 hours ago












  • 30





    Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

    – forest
    21 hours ago







  • 2





    @forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

    – R..
    14 hours ago






  • 6





    The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

    – a CVn
    14 hours ago






  • 4





    It's better not to see anything from "the current culture" if you value things like facts and reality.

    – hobbs
    12 hours ago











  • Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

    – jwh20
    10 hours ago







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30





Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

– forest
21 hours ago






Self-advertising and flamish? But Linus even says that it's just a hobby that won't be big and professional (boy was he mistaken, but that's another subject). If anything, he seems more humble than usual.

– forest
21 hours ago





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2





@forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

– R..
14 hours ago





@forest: Yeah, I don't see what's at all self-advertising and flamish about the quoted part, at least. It's a lot more friendly than at least 95% of his emails in the past 20 years, and I'd consider it reasonable form for announcing a related project of interest on a mailing list I moderate.

– R..
14 hours ago




6




6





The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

– a CVn
14 hours ago





The kernel doesn't offer a command line interface (nor a GUI), unless you count that of the boot loader passing parameters when chaining to the kernel (and I pretty much doubt that interface was in place in the early releases either). The kernel does hardware and kernel-internal initialization, then passes control to an init program (whether sysvinit, systemd, Upstart, or something else) that is supposed to get the system to a "useful" state. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel on a modern system some time, and you'll probably get a moderate likeness to the early Linux systems.

– a CVn
14 hours ago




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Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

– jwh20
10 hours ago





Actually the thing that Torvalds developed was indeed just the Linux kernel. It had no GUI or UI at all. It took additional things, such as porting a shell like /bin/sh or /bin/csh to give it any UI at all.

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