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What is the spellcasting ability of a Barbarian Totem Warrior?
What is a “spellcaster” for the purpose of magic item attunement?What is the spell attack bonus and spell save DC of a Thief using the Use Magic Device feature?Spell save DC on a wish spell cast from a magic itemWhat is the spell save DC for this magic item from Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage?Is a Barbarian Totem Warrior a Spellcaster?How do creatures affected by Compelled Duel or Bear Totemic Attunement know who to attack?How far can an Aarakocra Totem Warrior Barbarian get a grappled target with flying?Can a Path of the Totem Barbarian have multiple totems?Commune with Nature as a barbarianIs this homebrew Path of the Totem Warrior for grapplers balanced?Is this Homebrew Totem Spirit for Grapplers v3.0 balanced?Is there a magic item that grants the same benefit as the 6th-level Totem Barbarian's eagle totem?Does a 3rd-level Wolf Totem barbarian get advantage against enemies when an ally is within 5 feet of the enemy?
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At third level, a Barbarian can take the Path of the Totem Warrior, gaining (among others), the following feature:
Spirit Seeker
Yours is a path that seeks attunement with the natural world, giving you a kinship with beasts. At 3rd level when you adopt this path, you gain the ability to cast the Beast Sense and Speak with Animals spells, but only as rituals.
According to this question, that would make the Totem Warrior a Spellcaster.
What is the spellcasting ability of a Totem Warrior?
Is there any situation where that is relevant?
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At third level, a Barbarian can take the Path of the Totem Warrior, gaining (among others), the following feature:
Spirit Seeker
Yours is a path that seeks attunement with the natural world, giving you a kinship with beasts. At 3rd level when you adopt this path, you gain the ability to cast the Beast Sense and Speak with Animals spells, but only as rituals.
According to this question, that would make the Totem Warrior a Spellcaster.
What is the spellcasting ability of a Totem Warrior?
Is there any situation where that is relevant?
dnd-5e class-feature barbarian spellcasting
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Related: (possibly duplicate): "What is the spell attack bonus and spell save DC of a Thief using the Use Magic Device feature?"
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Not sure about the dupe, since although it essentially the same scenario, one is about the Thief feature specifically, and this is about the Totem Warrior feature specifically. The answers will be much the same, though.
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At third level, a Barbarian can take the Path of the Totem Warrior, gaining (among others), the following feature:
Spirit Seeker
Yours is a path that seeks attunement with the natural world, giving you a kinship with beasts. At 3rd level when you adopt this path, you gain the ability to cast the Beast Sense and Speak with Animals spells, but only as rituals.
According to this question, that would make the Totem Warrior a Spellcaster.
What is the spellcasting ability of a Totem Warrior?
Is there any situation where that is relevant?
dnd-5e class-feature barbarian spellcasting
edited 55 mins ago
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At third level, a Barbarian can take the Path of the Totem Warrior, gaining (among others), the following feature:
Spirit Seeker
Yours is a path that seeks attunement with the natural world, giving you a kinship with beasts. At 3rd level when you adopt this path, you gain the ability to cast the Beast Sense and Speak with Animals spells, but only as rituals.
According to this question, that would make the Totem Warrior a Spellcaster.
What is the spellcasting ability of a Totem Warrior?
Is there any situation where that is relevant?
dnd-5e class-feature barbarian spellcasting
dnd-5e class-feature barbarian spellcasting
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Not sure about the dupe, since although it essentially the same scenario, one is about the Thief feature specifically, and this is about the Totem Warrior feature specifically. The answers will be much the same, though.
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Related: (possibly duplicate): "What is the spell attack bonus and spell save DC of a Thief using the Use Magic Device feature?"
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– Medix2
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Not sure about the dupe, since although it essentially the same scenario, one is about the Thief feature specifically, and this is about the Totem Warrior feature specifically. The answers will be much the same, though.
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Related: (possibly duplicate): "What is the spell attack bonus and spell save DC of a Thief using the Use Magic Device feature?"
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– Medix2
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Not sure about the dupe, since although it essentially the same scenario, one is about the Thief feature specifically, and this is about the Totem Warrior feature specifically. The answers will be much the same, though.
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– NathanS
8 hours ago
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Not sure about the dupe, since although it essentially the same scenario, one is about the Thief feature specifically, and this is about the Totem Warrior feature specifically. The answers will be much the same, though.
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You do not have a spellcasting ability
Neither the Spirit Seeker or Spirit Warrior features (PHB, p. 50) mention a spellcasting modifier, so this would be the same case as the Thief rogue's Use Magic Device feature - you don't have a spellcasting ability. Taken from DMG, page 141 (borrowed from this answer):
If you don't have a spellcasting ability - perhaps you're a rogue with the Use Magic Device feature - your spellcasting ability modifier is +0 for the item, and your proficiency bonus does apply.
Since you don't have a spellcasting ability, your spellcasting ability modifier is therefore +0. So your spell attack bonus would be your proficiency bonus by itself and your spell save DC would just be 8 + your proficiency bonus.
But in practice, it only matters for a few edge cases
For most magic items, those that specify that they use your spellcasting ability tend to be those that also require you to be of a specific class to be able to attune to it, such as the Staff of the Woodlands needing you to be a druid, not just any spellcaster. Those that do allow any spellcaster tend to include static DCs that are separate from your spellcasting ability, such as the various wands in the DMG.
However, there is one item that does allow any spellcaster to attune to it, yet references your spellcasting ability, and that is the Voyager Staff from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica (thanks to @David Coffron).
Other magic items exist that do not require you to be considered a spellcaster at all, such as explored in this question, that allow the user to cast wish to duplicate spells that involve saving throws (thanks to @Medix2). So that would also include the Luck Blade, the Ring of Three Wishes, a certain card from the Deck of Many Things, and being attuned to both the Eye and Hand of Vecna to our list of "edge cases for where this is relevant".
There's also an item from Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage called the Black Crystal Tablet that allows anyone with proficiency in Arcana to attune to it, which allows you to cast eyebite but without specifying a save DC (thanks to @Medix2). This item would also require you to use your spellcasting ability, as explored in this question.
So using these items would make this become relevant for a Totem Warrior barbarian. But there is one more edge case (found by @Medix2); the Arcane Trickster rogue's Spell Thief feature (PHB, p. 98). If any character (which includes this barbarian) were to cast a spell that affects an Arcane Trickster (say, using wish from a Luck Blade), this feature would force the "spellcaster" to use their spellcasting ability for a saving throw. In this barbarian's case (or any other "spellcaster" who doesn't actually have a spellcasting modifier), that would be as per the first part of my answer.
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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You do not have a spellcasting ability
Neither the Spirit Seeker or Spirit Warrior features (PHB, p. 50) mention a spellcasting modifier, so this would be the same case as the Thief rogue's Use Magic Device feature - you don't have a spellcasting ability. Taken from DMG, page 141 (borrowed from this answer):
If you don't have a spellcasting ability - perhaps you're a rogue with the Use Magic Device feature - your spellcasting ability modifier is +0 for the item, and your proficiency bonus does apply.
Since you don't have a spellcasting ability, your spellcasting ability modifier is therefore +0. So your spell attack bonus would be your proficiency bonus by itself and your spell save DC would just be 8 + your proficiency bonus.
But in practice, it only matters for a few edge cases
For most magic items, those that specify that they use your spellcasting ability tend to be those that also require you to be of a specific class to be able to attune to it, such as the Staff of the Woodlands needing you to be a druid, not just any spellcaster. Those that do allow any spellcaster tend to include static DCs that are separate from your spellcasting ability, such as the various wands in the DMG.
However, there is one item that does allow any spellcaster to attune to it, yet references your spellcasting ability, and that is the Voyager Staff from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica (thanks to @David Coffron).
Other magic items exist that do not require you to be considered a spellcaster at all, such as explored in this question, that allow the user to cast wish to duplicate spells that involve saving throws (thanks to @Medix2). So that would also include the Luck Blade, the Ring of Three Wishes, a certain card from the Deck of Many Things, and being attuned to both the Eye and Hand of Vecna to our list of "edge cases for where this is relevant".
There's also an item from Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage called the Black Crystal Tablet that allows anyone with proficiency in Arcana to attune to it, which allows you to cast eyebite but without specifying a save DC (thanks to @Medix2). This item would also require you to use your spellcasting ability, as explored in this question.
So using these items would make this become relevant for a Totem Warrior barbarian. But there is one more edge case (found by @Medix2); the Arcane Trickster rogue's Spell Thief feature (PHB, p. 98). If any character (which includes this barbarian) were to cast a spell that affects an Arcane Trickster (say, using wish from a Luck Blade), this feature would force the "spellcaster" to use their spellcasting ability for a saving throw. In this barbarian's case (or any other "spellcaster" who doesn't actually have a spellcasting modifier), that would be as per the first part of my answer.
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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– Xirema
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You do not have a spellcasting ability
Neither the Spirit Seeker or Spirit Warrior features (PHB, p. 50) mention a spellcasting modifier, so this would be the same case as the Thief rogue's Use Magic Device feature - you don't have a spellcasting ability. Taken from DMG, page 141 (borrowed from this answer):
If you don't have a spellcasting ability - perhaps you're a rogue with the Use Magic Device feature - your spellcasting ability modifier is +0 for the item, and your proficiency bonus does apply.
Since you don't have a spellcasting ability, your spellcasting ability modifier is therefore +0. So your spell attack bonus would be your proficiency bonus by itself and your spell save DC would just be 8 + your proficiency bonus.
But in practice, it only matters for a few edge cases
For most magic items, those that specify that they use your spellcasting ability tend to be those that also require you to be of a specific class to be able to attune to it, such as the Staff of the Woodlands needing you to be a druid, not just any spellcaster. Those that do allow any spellcaster tend to include static DCs that are separate from your spellcasting ability, such as the various wands in the DMG.
However, there is one item that does allow any spellcaster to attune to it, yet references your spellcasting ability, and that is the Voyager Staff from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica (thanks to @David Coffron).
Other magic items exist that do not require you to be considered a spellcaster at all, such as explored in this question, that allow the user to cast wish to duplicate spells that involve saving throws (thanks to @Medix2). So that would also include the Luck Blade, the Ring of Three Wishes, a certain card from the Deck of Many Things, and being attuned to both the Eye and Hand of Vecna to our list of "edge cases for where this is relevant".
There's also an item from Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage called the Black Crystal Tablet that allows anyone with proficiency in Arcana to attune to it, which allows you to cast eyebite but without specifying a save DC (thanks to @Medix2). This item would also require you to use your spellcasting ability, as explored in this question.
So using these items would make this become relevant for a Totem Warrior barbarian. But there is one more edge case (found by @Medix2); the Arcane Trickster rogue's Spell Thief feature (PHB, p. 98). If any character (which includes this barbarian) were to cast a spell that affects an Arcane Trickster (say, using wish from a Luck Blade), this feature would force the "spellcaster" to use their spellcasting ability for a saving throw. In this barbarian's case (or any other "spellcaster" who doesn't actually have a spellcasting modifier), that would be as per the first part of my answer.
answered 8 hours ago
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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– Xirema
2 hours ago
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You do not have a spellcasting ability
Neither the Spirit Seeker or Spirit Warrior features (PHB, p. 50) mention a spellcasting modifier, so this would be the same case as the Thief rogue's Use Magic Device feature - you don't have a spellcasting ability. Taken from DMG, page 141 (borrowed from this answer):
If you don't have a spellcasting ability - perhaps you're a rogue with the Use Magic Device feature - your spellcasting ability modifier is +0 for the item, and your proficiency bonus does apply.
Since you don't have a spellcasting ability, your spellcasting ability modifier is therefore +0. So your spell attack bonus would be your proficiency bonus by itself and your spell save DC would just be 8 + your proficiency bonus.
But in practice, it only matters for a few edge cases
For most magic items, those that specify that they use your spellcasting ability tend to be those that also require you to be of a specific class to be able to attune to it, such as the Staff of the Woodlands needing you to be a druid, not just any spellcaster. Those that do allow any spellcaster tend to include static DCs that are separate from your spellcasting ability, such as the various wands in the DMG.
However, there is one item that does allow any spellcaster to attune to it, yet references your spellcasting ability, and that is the Voyager Staff from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica (thanks to @David Coffron).
Other magic items exist that do not require you to be considered a spellcaster at all, such as explored in this question, that allow the user to cast wish to duplicate spells that involve saving throws (thanks to @Medix2). So that would also include the Luck Blade, the Ring of Three Wishes, a certain card from the Deck of Many Things, and being attuned to both the Eye and Hand of Vecna to our list of "edge cases for where this is relevant".
There's also an item from Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage called the Black Crystal Tablet that allows anyone with proficiency in Arcana to attune to it, which allows you to cast eyebite but without specifying a save DC (thanks to @Medix2). This item would also require you to use your spellcasting ability, as explored in this question.
So using these items would make this become relevant for a Totem Warrior barbarian. But there is one more edge case (found by @Medix2); the Arcane Trickster rogue's Spell Thief feature (PHB, p. 98). If any character (which includes this barbarian) were to cast a spell that affects an Arcane Trickster (say, using wish from a Luck Blade), this feature would force the "spellcaster" to use their spellcasting ability for a saving throw. In this barbarian's case (or any other "spellcaster" who doesn't actually have a spellcasting modifier), that would be as per the first part of my answer.
answered 8 hours ago
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You do not have a spellcasting ability
Neither the Spirit Seeker or Spirit Warrior features (PHB, p. 50) mention a spellcasting modifier, so this would be the same case as the Thief rogue's Use Magic Device feature - you don't have a spellcasting ability. Taken from DMG, page 141 (borrowed from this answer):
If you don't have a spellcasting ability - perhaps you're a rogue with the Use Magic Device feature - your spellcasting ability modifier is +0 for the item, and your proficiency bonus does apply.
Since you don't have a spellcasting ability, your spellcasting ability modifier is therefore +0. So your spell attack bonus would be your proficiency bonus by itself and your spell save DC would just be 8 + your proficiency bonus.
But in practice, it only matters for a few edge cases
For most magic items, those that specify that they use your spellcasting ability tend to be those that also require you to be of a specific class to be able to attune to it, such as the Staff of the Woodlands needing you to be a druid, not just any spellcaster. Those that do allow any spellcaster tend to include static DCs that are separate from your spellcasting ability, such as the various wands in the DMG.
However, there is one item that does allow any spellcaster to attune to it, yet references your spellcasting ability, and that is the Voyager Staff from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica (thanks to @David Coffron).
Other magic items exist that do not require you to be considered a spellcaster at all, such as explored in this question, that allow the user to cast wish to duplicate spells that involve saving throws (thanks to @Medix2). So that would also include the Luck Blade, the Ring of Three Wishes, a certain card from the Deck of Many Things, and being attuned to both the Eye and Hand of Vecna to our list of "edge cases for where this is relevant".
There's also an item from Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage called the Black Crystal Tablet that allows anyone with proficiency in Arcana to attune to it, which allows you to cast eyebite but without specifying a save DC (thanks to @Medix2). This item would also require you to use your spellcasting ability, as explored in this question.
So using these items would make this become relevant for a Totem Warrior barbarian. But there is one more edge case (found by @Medix2); the Arcane Trickster rogue's Spell Thief feature (PHB, p. 98). If any character (which includes this barbarian) were to cast a spell that affects an Arcane Trickster (say, using wish from a Luck Blade), this feature would force the "spellcaster" to use their spellcasting ability for a saving throw. In this barbarian's case (or any other "spellcaster" who doesn't actually have a spellcasting modifier), that would be as per the first part of my answer.
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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– Xirema
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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– Xirema
2 hours ago
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I think your answer is well reasoned, but because it relies on the rules for Magic Item use, whereas the example is of a Spirit Totem Barbarian, who is not using a Magic Item to cast their spells, I have to downvote this. If you find rules-based evidence for what should happen that isn't based on the Magic Items rules (or can prove that these rules should be used for this situation), then it would be worth an upvote.
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Related: (possibly duplicate): "What is the spell attack bonus and spell save DC of a Thief using the Use Magic Device feature?"
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– Medix2
8 hours ago
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Not sure about the dupe, since although it essentially the same scenario, one is about the Thief feature specifically, and this is about the Totem Warrior feature specifically. The answers will be much the same, though.
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– NathanS
8 hours ago