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Gofer work in exchange for LoR


Which recommender should I go for getting a LOR for graduate school admission?Which among an LoR for startup work and a “good student” LoR, will be more effective?What makes for a “strong” LoR for graduate application?Sending reminder for LOR and asking them to do it early?US Master Admissions, LoR: Academic vs. EmployerIs it ethical to require student work in exchange for letter of recommendationTransferring Master to Master, different country/ LOR issueLOR from a Retired ProfessorHow long is a LOR valid?Is getting a good grade enough to ask for a letter of recommendation for a grad school application?






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I want to apply for Master’s programs, but I need two letters of recommendation. I was never very close with any of my professors, though I did receive good grades in all of my classes.
The professor who probably knows me the best is one of the core faculty at the college. I asked her for advice on how to start with undergraduate research, which wasn’t a requirement, just an interest of mine. I also received an A in her class, and suggested an outing for the class which she then took up.
It’s also been about a year since I graduated.
Would it be appropriate to ask her if she could write a letter of recommendation, perhaps in exchange for some gofer work (filing, watching class while students take tests, running errands)?










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    I want to apply for Master’s programs, but I need two letters of recommendation. I was never very close with any of my professors, though I did receive good grades in all of my classes.
    The professor who probably knows me the best is one of the core faculty at the college. I asked her for advice on how to start with undergraduate research, which wasn’t a requirement, just an interest of mine. I also received an A in her class, and suggested an outing for the class which she then took up.
    It’s also been about a year since I graduated.
    Would it be appropriate to ask her if she could write a letter of recommendation, perhaps in exchange for some gofer work (filing, watching class while students take tests, running errands)?










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      I want to apply for Master’s programs, but I need two letters of recommendation. I was never very close with any of my professors, though I did receive good grades in all of my classes.
      The professor who probably knows me the best is one of the core faculty at the college. I asked her for advice on how to start with undergraduate research, which wasn’t a requirement, just an interest of mine. I also received an A in her class, and suggested an outing for the class which she then took up.
      It’s also been about a year since I graduated.
      Would it be appropriate to ask her if she could write a letter of recommendation, perhaps in exchange for some gofer work (filing, watching class while students take tests, running errands)?










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      I want to apply for Master’s programs, but I need two letters of recommendation. I was never very close with any of my professors, though I did receive good grades in all of my classes.
      The professor who probably knows me the best is one of the core faculty at the college. I asked her for advice on how to start with undergraduate research, which wasn’t a requirement, just an interest of mine. I also received an A in her class, and suggested an outing for the class which she then took up.
      It’s also been about a year since I graduated.
      Would it be appropriate to ask her if she could write a letter of recommendation, perhaps in exchange for some gofer work (filing, watching class while students take tests, running errands)?







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          It’s appropriate to ask for a letter, but completely inappropriate to offer a thing of value in exchange. Professors are already paid to do their job, which includes writing letters of recommendation, and it would be unethical for a professor to accept a favor or other thing of value in exchange for agreeing to do what is already a part of their job.






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            Just ask for the letter. Writing recommendation letters is part of a professor's job. No need to be a gofer.



            Assuming your request is granted, it might be helpful to remind her of some of the things you've done related to her course, etc, as you've included here, since professors have many students and may not recall all the details.






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            • @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

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              To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

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            Most of us write references without demanding work in exchange.



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              @AloneProgrammer looks like you did not understand... my point was made in the first line...

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              @AloneProgrammer more worrying is what sort of institution is the student part of that makes them come up with such a suggestion?

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              @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

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              @user352848 Then those students tend to be volunteers, who offer to do things - I did similar things when I was at uni, one did them to help, out of interest but not for payment of a reference.

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                It’s appropriate to ask for a letter, but completely inappropriate to offer a thing of value in exchange. Professors are already paid to do their job, which includes writing letters of recommendation, and it would be unethical for a professor to accept a favor or other thing of value in exchange for agreeing to do what is already a part of their job.







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                    Just ask for the letter. Writing recommendation letters is part of a professor's job. No need to be a gofer.



                    Assuming your request is granted, it might be helpful to remind her of some of the things you've done related to her course, etc, as you've included here, since professors have many students and may not recall all the details.






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                    • Thank you. I’ll probably email her and bring up the things I mentioned here. Not sure if scheduling to meet her in person is better.

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                    • @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

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                      To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

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                    Just ask for the letter. Writing recommendation letters is part of a professor's job. No need to be a gofer.



                    Assuming your request is granted, it might be helpful to remind her of some of the things you've done related to her course, etc, as you've included here, since professors have many students and may not recall all the details.






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                    • @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

                      – Bryan Krause
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                      To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

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                    Just ask for the letter. Writing recommendation letters is part of a professor's job. No need to be a gofer.



                    Assuming your request is granted, it might be helpful to remind her of some of the things you've done related to her course, etc, as you've included here, since professors have many students and may not recall all the details.






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                    Just ask for the letter. Writing recommendation letters is part of a professor's job. No need to be a gofer.



                    Assuming your request is granted, it might be helpful to remind her of some of the things you've done related to her course, etc, as you've included here, since professors have many students and may not recall all the details.







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                    • Thank you. I’ll probably email her and bring up the things I mentioned here. Not sure if scheduling to meet her in person is better.

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                    • @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

                      – Bryan Krause
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                      To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

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                    • Thank you. I’ll probably email her and bring up the things I mentioned here. Not sure if scheduling to meet her in person is better.

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                    • @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

                      – Bryan Krause
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                    • 1





                      To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

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                    Thank you. I’ll probably email her and bring up the things I mentioned here. Not sure if scheduling to meet her in person is better.

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                    Thank you. I’ll probably email her and bring up the things I mentioned here. Not sure if scheduling to meet her in person is better.

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                    @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

                    – Bryan Krause
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                    @user352848 I'd probably start with just the email asking if she can write a letter; you can offer to be available to meet but I wouldn't organize a meeting just to ask. Some professors like to meet in person to discuss letters with students, others prefer written information to help them structure the letter (such as a CV, reminders of your association with them like I suggested, future plans, and particular attributes you might want them to focus on).

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                    To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

                    – PLL
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                    To supplement this answer, a standard request email could be something like: “Dear Professor Jones, Would you be willing to provide me with a letter of recommendation? In case you don’t recall me, I took your course on Practical Theorising in spring 2018, receiving an A, and you also gave me some very helpful advice on finding undergrad research projects in Theory of Modelling. I am now applying to Masters programmes in Applied Theoretics, and would be very grateful if you can provide a letter of reference. Many thanks, @user352848.”

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                    Most of us write references without demanding work in exchange.



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                      @AloneProgrammer looks like you did not understand... my point was made in the first line...

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                      @AloneProgrammer more worrying is what sort of institution is the student part of that makes them come up with such a suggestion?

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                      @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

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                      @user352848 Then those students tend to be volunteers, who offer to do things - I did similar things when I was at uni, one did them to help, out of interest but not for payment of a reference.

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                      @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

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                      No offence, but it sounds abusive...

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                      @AloneProgrammer looks like you did not understand... my point was made in the first line...

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                      @AloneProgrammer more worrying is what sort of institution is the student part of that makes them come up with such a suggestion?

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                      @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

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                      @user352848 Then those students tend to be volunteers, who offer to do things - I did similar things when I was at uni, one did them to help, out of interest but not for payment of a reference.

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                      No offence, but it sounds abusive...

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                      @AloneProgrammer looks like you did not understand... my point was made in the first line...

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                      7 hours ago






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                      @AloneProgrammer more worrying is what sort of institution is the student part of that makes them come up with such a suggestion?

                      – Solar Mike
                      7 hours ago






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                      @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

                      – user352848
                      7 hours ago






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                      @user352848 Then those students tend to be volunteers, who offer to do things - I did similar things when I was at uni, one did them to help, out of interest but not for payment of a reference.

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                    @AloneProgrammer looks like you did not understand... my point was made in the first line...

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                    @AloneProgrammer looks like you did not understand... my point was made in the first line...

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                    @AloneProgrammer more worrying is what sort of institution is the student part of that makes them come up with such a suggestion?

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                    @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

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                    @SolarMike It was a suggestion given to me by a friend who’s given talks in academic settings (not my own college, though) and noticed the grad students tended to be “gofers”, driving people around or getting coffee.

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