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Find absolute maxima and minima of a multivariable function in the domain D


How to use Lagrange Multipliers, when the constraint surface has a boundary?By Lagrange Multipliers, the function $f$ has no minima or maxima under constraint $g$?Find absolute maximum and minimumFind a critical point satisfied the Lagrange condition is not local extremumFinding Critical Points and Local Maxima/Minima or Saddle PointUsing Lagrange Multipliers Better?Find the absolute maxima and minima of a multivariable equationMultivariable Calculus finding absolute extremas with constraints?Maxima and minima of function with limiting condition (lagrange multiplier)Lagrange multipliers - confused about when the constraint set has boundary points that need to be considered






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I am trying to find the absolute maxima and minima of
$ f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$ in the domain $D = x^2 + y^2 le 1 $



I have made an attempt as shown in attached picture. Please ignore dashed areas.
Attached picture.
The answer is (1,0) and (-1,0). I do NOT want to use the Lagrange multiplier method to solve.



Is it legal to substitute $y^4 = (1-x^2)^2$ into $f(x,y)$ to make a single variable $f(x)$ and then find $f'(x) =0 $? Then, after finding the $x$ can I substitute into $x^2 +y^2 = 1$ to find y? Then can I plug it back into $f(x,y)$ to find critical points?



I want to know how to find max and min on the boundary $x^2 + y^2 = 1$ without the LM method?



Thanks for your help!










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I am trying to find the absolute maxima and minima of
$ f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$ in the domain $D = x^2 + y^2 le 1 $



I have made an attempt as shown in attached picture. Please ignore dashed areas.
Attached picture.
The answer is (1,0) and (-1,0). I do NOT want to use the Lagrange multiplier method to solve.



Is it legal to substitute $y^4 = (1-x^2)^2$ into $f(x,y)$ to make a single variable $f(x)$ and then find $f'(x) =0 $? Then, after finding the $x$ can I substitute into $x^2 +y^2 = 1$ to find y? Then can I plug it back into $f(x,y)$ to find critical points?



I want to know how to find max and min on the boundary $x^2 + y^2 = 1$ without the LM method?



Thanks for your help!










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I am trying to find the absolute maxima and minima of
$ f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$ in the domain $D = x^2 + y^2 le 1 $



I have made an attempt as shown in attached picture. Please ignore dashed areas.
Attached picture.
The answer is (1,0) and (-1,0). I do NOT want to use the Lagrange multiplier method to solve.



Is it legal to substitute $y^4 = (1-x^2)^2$ into $f(x,y)$ to make a single variable $f(x)$ and then find $f'(x) =0 $? Then, after finding the $x$ can I substitute into $x^2 +y^2 = 1$ to find y? Then can I plug it back into $f(x,y)$ to find critical points?



I want to know how to find max and min on the boundary $x^2 + y^2 = 1$ without the LM method?



Thanks for your help!










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I am trying to find the absolute maxima and minima of
$ f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$ in the domain $D = x^2 + y^2 le 1 $



I have made an attempt as shown in attached picture. Please ignore dashed areas.
Attached picture.
The answer is (1,0) and (-1,0). I do NOT want to use the Lagrange multiplier method to solve.



Is it legal to substitute $y^4 = (1-x^2)^2$ into $f(x,y)$ to make a single variable $f(x)$ and then find $f'(x) =0 $? Then, after finding the $x$ can I substitute into $x^2 +y^2 = 1$ to find y? Then can I plug it back into $f(x,y)$ to find critical points?



I want to know how to find max and min on the boundary $x^2 + y^2 = 1$ without the LM method?



Thanks for your help!







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    It's not illicit to substitute, I would do the same.
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It's not illicit to substitute, I would do the same.
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Using Calculus, it's routine:



  • Find the critical points in the interior of $D;$by setting the partial derivatives of $f$ to zero, and solving for $x,y$. In this case, the only critical point in the interior of $D;$is the origin, but at the origin, we have $f(0,0)=0$, which is not an absolute extreme value of $f$ on $D$.$\[4pt]$

  • On the boundary of $D$, you can do what you suggested, namely, replace the $y^4$ term of $f(x,y)$ by $(1-x^2)^2$ and then, using standard methods from single-variable Calculus, proceed to find the absolute extrema of the function $g(x)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$ on the closed interval $[-1,1]$.

But Calculus is not really needed for this problem.



By inspection, we have




  • $f(-1,0)=-2$.$\[4pt]$


  • $f(1,0)=2$.

For $(x,y)in D$,



  • If $x ge 0$, then $0 le 2x^3+y^4 le 2x^2 + y^2 le 2(x^2+y^2)le 2$.$\[4pt]$

  • If $x < 0$, then $-2 le 2x^3 le 2x^3+y^4$.

hence for all $(x,y)in D$, we have $-2le f(x,y)le 2$.



First suppose $f(x,y)=-2$.
beginalign*
textThen;;&f(x,y)=-2
qquad;;
\[4pt]
implies;&x^3+y^4=-2\[4pt]
implies;&x^3le -2\[4pt]
implies;&x^3le -1\[4pt]
implies;&xle -1\[4pt]
implies;&x=-1\[4pt]
implies;&-2+y^4=-2\[4pt]
implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
implies;&y=0\[4pt]
implies;&(x,y)=(-1,0)\[4pt]
endalign*

Next suppose $f(x,y)=2$.
beginalign*
textThen;;&f(x,y)=2\[4pt]
implies;&2x^3+y^4=2\[4pt]
implies;&x^3+(x^3+y^4)=2\[4pt]
implies;&x^3+(x^2+y^2)ge 2\[4pt]
implies;&x^3+1ge 2\[4pt]
implies;&x^3ge 1\[4pt]
implies;&xge -1\[4pt]
implies;&x=1\[4pt]
implies;&2+y^4=2\[4pt]
implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
implies;&y=0\[4pt]
implies;&(x,y)=(1,0)\[4pt]
endalign*

It follows that



  • The absolute minimum value of $f$ on $D;$is $-2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(-1,0)$.$\[4pt]$

  • The absolute maximum value of $f$ on $D;$is $2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(1,0)$.





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    The maximum and minimum is situated on the curve $$x^2+y^2=1$$
    So you have to consider $$f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
    Solve the equation $$6 x^2-4 x left(1-x^2right)=0$$ for $x$, the first derivative.






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      I know that! It could be any point on the unit circle. How do I find them?
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    I'm sorry I couldn't follow your answer in the attached image



    $$f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$$
    the first derivative:
    $$dfover dx = 6x^2 rightarrow 0; x=0$$
    $$dfover dy = 4y^3 rightarrow 0; y=0$$
    With: $$x^2 + y^2 = 1$$ as an end point. Set each variable to zero and solve for the other.
    $$x=pm1$$
    $$y=pm1$$



    ∴ we have five critical points:
    $$(0,0) , (0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (-1,0)$$
    plug/substitute each point in the function to get the maximum and minimum.






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      Why do you substitute x = 0 and y = 0 seperately into $x^2+y^2 = 1$ ?
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      To get the intercepts.
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    Since the origin $(0,0)$ is the only critical point inside $D$ and the origin is not a local maximum or a local minimum (because $f(0,0)=0$ and $f$ changes its sign in any neighbourhood of $(0,0)$), it follows that the absolute maxima and minima of $f$ in the compact set $D$ have to be attained at the boundary. Hence, you may consider the restriction of $f$ along such boundary $x^2+y^2=1$, that is the one-variable function
    $$g(x)=f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
    in the domain $[-1,1]$. Its derivative is
    $$g'(x)=2x(x+2)(2x-1)$$
    so we have to compare $g(0)=1$, $g(1/2)=13/16$, plus the values at the extreme points $g(-1)=-2$ and $g(1)=1$.
    We may conclude that the absolute maximum point is $(1,0)$ and the absolute minimum point is $(-1,0)$.



    Alternative way: if $x^2 + y^2 le 1$ then $-1leq x^3leq x^2$ and $0leq y^4leq 2y^2$. Therefore
    $$f(-1,0)=-2leq 2x^3leq f(x,y)=2x^3 + y^4leq 2x^2+2y^2leq 2=f(1,0).$$






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    $2x^3+y^4le 2x^2+y^2 $=$x^2+x^2+y^2le x^2+1le 2$ . By the same way we get $2x^3+y^4ge 2x^3ge -2$. We finally check that on the points $(1, 0) $ and $(-1, 0)$ $f$ gets respectively the above mentioned values.






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      Using Calculus, it's routine:



      • Find the critical points in the interior of $D;$by setting the partial derivatives of $f$ to zero, and solving for $x,y$. In this case, the only critical point in the interior of $D;$is the origin, but at the origin, we have $f(0,0)=0$, which is not an absolute extreme value of $f$ on $D$.$\[4pt]$

      • On the boundary of $D$, you can do what you suggested, namely, replace the $y^4$ term of $f(x,y)$ by $(1-x^2)^2$ and then, using standard methods from single-variable Calculus, proceed to find the absolute extrema of the function $g(x)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$ on the closed interval $[-1,1]$.

      But Calculus is not really needed for this problem.



      By inspection, we have




      • $f(-1,0)=-2$.$\[4pt]$


      • $f(1,0)=2$.

      For $(x,y)in D$,



      • If $x ge 0$, then $0 le 2x^3+y^4 le 2x^2 + y^2 le 2(x^2+y^2)le 2$.$\[4pt]$

      • If $x < 0$, then $-2 le 2x^3 le 2x^3+y^4$.

      hence for all $(x,y)in D$, we have $-2le f(x,y)le 2$.



      First suppose $f(x,y)=-2$.
      beginalign*
      textThen;;&f(x,y)=-2
      qquad;;
      \[4pt]
      implies;&x^3+y^4=-2\[4pt]
      implies;&x^3le -2\[4pt]
      implies;&x^3le -1\[4pt]
      implies;&xle -1\[4pt]
      implies;&x=-1\[4pt]
      implies;&-2+y^4=-2\[4pt]
      implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
      implies;&y=0\[4pt]
      implies;&(x,y)=(-1,0)\[4pt]
      endalign*

      Next suppose $f(x,y)=2$.
      beginalign*
      textThen;;&f(x,y)=2\[4pt]
      implies;&2x^3+y^4=2\[4pt]
      implies;&x^3+(x^3+y^4)=2\[4pt]
      implies;&x^3+(x^2+y^2)ge 2\[4pt]
      implies;&x^3+1ge 2\[4pt]
      implies;&x^3ge 1\[4pt]
      implies;&xge -1\[4pt]
      implies;&x=1\[4pt]
      implies;&2+y^4=2\[4pt]
      implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
      implies;&y=0\[4pt]
      implies;&(x,y)=(1,0)\[4pt]
      endalign*

      It follows that



      • The absolute minimum value of $f$ on $D;$is $-2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(-1,0)$.$\[4pt]$

      • The absolute maximum value of $f$ on $D;$is $2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(1,0)$.





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        Using Calculus, it's routine:



        • Find the critical points in the interior of $D;$by setting the partial derivatives of $f$ to zero, and solving for $x,y$. In this case, the only critical point in the interior of $D;$is the origin, but at the origin, we have $f(0,0)=0$, which is not an absolute extreme value of $f$ on $D$.$\[4pt]$

        • On the boundary of $D$, you can do what you suggested, namely, replace the $y^4$ term of $f(x,y)$ by $(1-x^2)^2$ and then, using standard methods from single-variable Calculus, proceed to find the absolute extrema of the function $g(x)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$ on the closed interval $[-1,1]$.

        But Calculus is not really needed for this problem.



        By inspection, we have




        • $f(-1,0)=-2$.$\[4pt]$


        • $f(1,0)=2$.

        For $(x,y)in D$,



        • If $x ge 0$, then $0 le 2x^3+y^4 le 2x^2 + y^2 le 2(x^2+y^2)le 2$.$\[4pt]$

        • If $x < 0$, then $-2 le 2x^3 le 2x^3+y^4$.

        hence for all $(x,y)in D$, we have $-2le f(x,y)le 2$.



        First suppose $f(x,y)=-2$.
        beginalign*
        textThen;;&f(x,y)=-2
        qquad;;
        \[4pt]
        implies;&x^3+y^4=-2\[4pt]
        implies;&x^3le -2\[4pt]
        implies;&x^3le -1\[4pt]
        implies;&xle -1\[4pt]
        implies;&x=-1\[4pt]
        implies;&-2+y^4=-2\[4pt]
        implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
        implies;&y=0\[4pt]
        implies;&(x,y)=(-1,0)\[4pt]
        endalign*

        Next suppose $f(x,y)=2$.
        beginalign*
        textThen;;&f(x,y)=2\[4pt]
        implies;&2x^3+y^4=2\[4pt]
        implies;&x^3+(x^3+y^4)=2\[4pt]
        implies;&x^3+(x^2+y^2)ge 2\[4pt]
        implies;&x^3+1ge 2\[4pt]
        implies;&x^3ge 1\[4pt]
        implies;&xge -1\[4pt]
        implies;&x=1\[4pt]
        implies;&2+y^4=2\[4pt]
        implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
        implies;&y=0\[4pt]
        implies;&(x,y)=(1,0)\[4pt]
        endalign*

        It follows that



        • The absolute minimum value of $f$ on $D;$is $-2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(-1,0)$.$\[4pt]$

        • The absolute maximum value of $f$ on $D;$is $2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(1,0)$.





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          Using Calculus, it's routine:



          • Find the critical points in the interior of $D;$by setting the partial derivatives of $f$ to zero, and solving for $x,y$. In this case, the only critical point in the interior of $D;$is the origin, but at the origin, we have $f(0,0)=0$, which is not an absolute extreme value of $f$ on $D$.$\[4pt]$

          • On the boundary of $D$, you can do what you suggested, namely, replace the $y^4$ term of $f(x,y)$ by $(1-x^2)^2$ and then, using standard methods from single-variable Calculus, proceed to find the absolute extrema of the function $g(x)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$ on the closed interval $[-1,1]$.

          But Calculus is not really needed for this problem.



          By inspection, we have




          • $f(-1,0)=-2$.$\[4pt]$


          • $f(1,0)=2$.

          For $(x,y)in D$,



          • If $x ge 0$, then $0 le 2x^3+y^4 le 2x^2 + y^2 le 2(x^2+y^2)le 2$.$\[4pt]$

          • If $x < 0$, then $-2 le 2x^3 le 2x^3+y^4$.

          hence for all $(x,y)in D$, we have $-2le f(x,y)le 2$.



          First suppose $f(x,y)=-2$.
          beginalign*
          textThen;;&f(x,y)=-2
          qquad;;
          \[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+y^4=-2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3le -2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3le -1\[4pt]
          implies;&xle -1\[4pt]
          implies;&x=-1\[4pt]
          implies;&-2+y^4=-2\[4pt]
          implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
          implies;&y=0\[4pt]
          implies;&(x,y)=(-1,0)\[4pt]
          endalign*

          Next suppose $f(x,y)=2$.
          beginalign*
          textThen;;&f(x,y)=2\[4pt]
          implies;&2x^3+y^4=2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+(x^3+y^4)=2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+(x^2+y^2)ge 2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+1ge 2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3ge 1\[4pt]
          implies;&xge -1\[4pt]
          implies;&x=1\[4pt]
          implies;&2+y^4=2\[4pt]
          implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
          implies;&y=0\[4pt]
          implies;&(x,y)=(1,0)\[4pt]
          endalign*

          It follows that



          • The absolute minimum value of $f$ on $D;$is $-2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(-1,0)$.$\[4pt]$

          • The absolute maximum value of $f$ on $D;$is $2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(1,0)$.





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          Using Calculus, it's routine:



          • Find the critical points in the interior of $D;$by setting the partial derivatives of $f$ to zero, and solving for $x,y$. In this case, the only critical point in the interior of $D;$is the origin, but at the origin, we have $f(0,0)=0$, which is not an absolute extreme value of $f$ on $D$.$\[4pt]$

          • On the boundary of $D$, you can do what you suggested, namely, replace the $y^4$ term of $f(x,y)$ by $(1-x^2)^2$ and then, using standard methods from single-variable Calculus, proceed to find the absolute extrema of the function $g(x)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$ on the closed interval $[-1,1]$.

          But Calculus is not really needed for this problem.



          By inspection, we have




          • $f(-1,0)=-2$.$\[4pt]$


          • $f(1,0)=2$.

          For $(x,y)in D$,



          • If $x ge 0$, then $0 le 2x^3+y^4 le 2x^2 + y^2 le 2(x^2+y^2)le 2$.$\[4pt]$

          • If $x < 0$, then $-2 le 2x^3 le 2x^3+y^4$.

          hence for all $(x,y)in D$, we have $-2le f(x,y)le 2$.



          First suppose $f(x,y)=-2$.
          beginalign*
          textThen;;&f(x,y)=-2
          qquad;;
          \[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+y^4=-2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3le -2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3le -1\[4pt]
          implies;&xle -1\[4pt]
          implies;&x=-1\[4pt]
          implies;&-2+y^4=-2\[4pt]
          implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
          implies;&y=0\[4pt]
          implies;&(x,y)=(-1,0)\[4pt]
          endalign*

          Next suppose $f(x,y)=2$.
          beginalign*
          textThen;;&f(x,y)=2\[4pt]
          implies;&2x^3+y^4=2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+(x^3+y^4)=2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+(x^2+y^2)ge 2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3+1ge 2\[4pt]
          implies;&x^3ge 1\[4pt]
          implies;&xge -1\[4pt]
          implies;&x=1\[4pt]
          implies;&2+y^4=2\[4pt]
          implies;&y^4=0\[4pt]
          implies;&y=0\[4pt]
          implies;&(x,y)=(1,0)\[4pt]
          endalign*

          It follows that



          • The absolute minimum value of $f$ on $D;$is $-2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(-1,0)$.$\[4pt]$

          • The absolute maximum value of $f$ on $D;$is $2$ which occurs for $(x,y)=(1,0)$.






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              The maximum and minimum is situated on the curve $$x^2+y^2=1$$
              So you have to consider $$f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              Solve the equation $$6 x^2-4 x left(1-x^2right)=0$$ for $x$, the first derivative.






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              The maximum and minimum is situated on the curve $$x^2+y^2=1$$
              So you have to consider $$f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              Solve the equation $$6 x^2-4 x left(1-x^2right)=0$$ for $x$, the first derivative.






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              The maximum and minimum is situated on the curve $$x^2+y^2=1$$
              So you have to consider $$f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              Solve the equation $$6 x^2-4 x left(1-x^2right)=0$$ for $x$, the first derivative.






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              The maximum and minimum is situated on the curve $$x^2+y^2=1$$
              So you have to consider $$f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              Solve the equation $$6 x^2-4 x left(1-x^2right)=0$$ for $x$, the first derivative.







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              I'm sorry I couldn't follow your answer in the attached image



              $$f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$$
              the first derivative:
              $$dfover dx = 6x^2 rightarrow 0; x=0$$
              $$dfover dy = 4y^3 rightarrow 0; y=0$$
              With: $$x^2 + y^2 = 1$$ as an end point. Set each variable to zero and solve for the other.
              $$x=pm1$$
              $$y=pm1$$



              ∴ we have five critical points:
              $$(0,0) , (0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (-1,0)$$
              plug/substitute each point in the function to get the maximum and minimum.






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                Why do you substitute x = 0 and y = 0 seperately into $x^2+y^2 = 1$ ?
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                To get the intercepts.
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              $begingroup$

              I'm sorry I couldn't follow your answer in the attached image



              $$f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$$
              the first derivative:
              $$dfover dx = 6x^2 rightarrow 0; x=0$$
              $$dfover dy = 4y^3 rightarrow 0; y=0$$
              With: $$x^2 + y^2 = 1$$ as an end point. Set each variable to zero and solve for the other.
              $$x=pm1$$
              $$y=pm1$$



              ∴ we have five critical points:
              $$(0,0) , (0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (-1,0)$$
              plug/substitute each point in the function to get the maximum and minimum.






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                Why do you substitute x = 0 and y = 0 seperately into $x^2+y^2 = 1$ ?
                $endgroup$
                – PcumP_Ravenclaw
                10 hours ago










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                To get the intercepts.
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                – Ahmed Elhefnawy
                10 hours ago














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              $begingroup$

              I'm sorry I couldn't follow your answer in the attached image



              $$f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$$
              the first derivative:
              $$dfover dx = 6x^2 rightarrow 0; x=0$$
              $$dfover dy = 4y^3 rightarrow 0; y=0$$
              With: $$x^2 + y^2 = 1$$ as an end point. Set each variable to zero and solve for the other.
              $$x=pm1$$
              $$y=pm1$$



              ∴ we have five critical points:
              $$(0,0) , (0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (-1,0)$$
              plug/substitute each point in the function to get the maximum and minimum.






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              I'm sorry I couldn't follow your answer in the attached image



              $$f(x,y) = 2x^3 + y^4$$
              the first derivative:
              $$dfover dx = 6x^2 rightarrow 0; x=0$$
              $$dfover dy = 4y^3 rightarrow 0; y=0$$
              With: $$x^2 + y^2 = 1$$ as an end point. Set each variable to zero and solve for the other.
              $$x=pm1$$
              $$y=pm1$$



              ∴ we have five critical points:
              $$(0,0) , (0,1), (0,-1), (1,0), (-1,0)$$
              plug/substitute each point in the function to get the maximum and minimum.







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                To get the intercepts.
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                Why do you substitute x = 0 and y = 0 seperately into $x^2+y^2 = 1$ ?
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                To get the intercepts.
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              $begingroup$
              Why do you substitute x = 0 and y = 0 seperately into $x^2+y^2 = 1$ ?
              $endgroup$
              – PcumP_Ravenclaw
              10 hours ago




              $begingroup$
              Why do you substitute x = 0 and y = 0 seperately into $x^2+y^2 = 1$ ?
              $endgroup$
              – PcumP_Ravenclaw
              10 hours ago












              $begingroup$
              To get the intercepts.
              $endgroup$
              – Ahmed Elhefnawy
              10 hours ago





              $begingroup$
              To get the intercepts.
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              – Ahmed Elhefnawy
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              Since the origin $(0,0)$ is the only critical point inside $D$ and the origin is not a local maximum or a local minimum (because $f(0,0)=0$ and $f$ changes its sign in any neighbourhood of $(0,0)$), it follows that the absolute maxima and minima of $f$ in the compact set $D$ have to be attained at the boundary. Hence, you may consider the restriction of $f$ along such boundary $x^2+y^2=1$, that is the one-variable function
              $$g(x)=f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              in the domain $[-1,1]$. Its derivative is
              $$g'(x)=2x(x+2)(2x-1)$$
              so we have to compare $g(0)=1$, $g(1/2)=13/16$, plus the values at the extreme points $g(-1)=-2$ and $g(1)=1$.
              We may conclude that the absolute maximum point is $(1,0)$ and the absolute minimum point is $(-1,0)$.



              Alternative way: if $x^2 + y^2 le 1$ then $-1leq x^3leq x^2$ and $0leq y^4leq 2y^2$. Therefore
              $$f(-1,0)=-2leq 2x^3leq f(x,y)=2x^3 + y^4leq 2x^2+2y^2leq 2=f(1,0).$$






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              $begingroup$

              Since the origin $(0,0)$ is the only critical point inside $D$ and the origin is not a local maximum or a local minimum (because $f(0,0)=0$ and $f$ changes its sign in any neighbourhood of $(0,0)$), it follows that the absolute maxima and minima of $f$ in the compact set $D$ have to be attained at the boundary. Hence, you may consider the restriction of $f$ along such boundary $x^2+y^2=1$, that is the one-variable function
              $$g(x)=f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              in the domain $[-1,1]$. Its derivative is
              $$g'(x)=2x(x+2)(2x-1)$$
              so we have to compare $g(0)=1$, $g(1/2)=13/16$, plus the values at the extreme points $g(-1)=-2$ and $g(1)=1$.
              We may conclude that the absolute maximum point is $(1,0)$ and the absolute minimum point is $(-1,0)$.



              Alternative way: if $x^2 + y^2 le 1$ then $-1leq x^3leq x^2$ and $0leq y^4leq 2y^2$. Therefore
              $$f(-1,0)=-2leq 2x^3leq f(x,y)=2x^3 + y^4leq 2x^2+2y^2leq 2=f(1,0).$$






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              $begingroup$

              Since the origin $(0,0)$ is the only critical point inside $D$ and the origin is not a local maximum or a local minimum (because $f(0,0)=0$ and $f$ changes its sign in any neighbourhood of $(0,0)$), it follows that the absolute maxima and minima of $f$ in the compact set $D$ have to be attained at the boundary. Hence, you may consider the restriction of $f$ along such boundary $x^2+y^2=1$, that is the one-variable function
              $$g(x)=f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              in the domain $[-1,1]$. Its derivative is
              $$g'(x)=2x(x+2)(2x-1)$$
              so we have to compare $g(0)=1$, $g(1/2)=13/16$, plus the values at the extreme points $g(-1)=-2$ and $g(1)=1$.
              We may conclude that the absolute maximum point is $(1,0)$ and the absolute minimum point is $(-1,0)$.



              Alternative way: if $x^2 + y^2 le 1$ then $-1leq x^3leq x^2$ and $0leq y^4leq 2y^2$. Therefore
              $$f(-1,0)=-2leq 2x^3leq f(x,y)=2x^3 + y^4leq 2x^2+2y^2leq 2=f(1,0).$$






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              Since the origin $(0,0)$ is the only critical point inside $D$ and the origin is not a local maximum or a local minimum (because $f(0,0)=0$ and $f$ changes its sign in any neighbourhood of $(0,0)$), it follows that the absolute maxima and minima of $f$ in the compact set $D$ have to be attained at the boundary. Hence, you may consider the restriction of $f$ along such boundary $x^2+y^2=1$, that is the one-variable function
              $$g(x)=f(x,pmsqrt1-x^2)=2x^3+(1-x^2)^2$$
              in the domain $[-1,1]$. Its derivative is
              $$g'(x)=2x(x+2)(2x-1)$$
              so we have to compare $g(0)=1$, $g(1/2)=13/16$, plus the values at the extreme points $g(-1)=-2$ and $g(1)=1$.
              We may conclude that the absolute maximum point is $(1,0)$ and the absolute minimum point is $(-1,0)$.



              Alternative way: if $x^2 + y^2 le 1$ then $-1leq x^3leq x^2$ and $0leq y^4leq 2y^2$. Therefore
              $$f(-1,0)=-2leq 2x^3leq f(x,y)=2x^3 + y^4leq 2x^2+2y^2leq 2=f(1,0).$$







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              $2x^3+y^4le 2x^2+y^2 $=$x^2+x^2+y^2le x^2+1le 2$ . By the same way we get $2x^3+y^4ge 2x^3ge -2$. We finally check that on the points $(1, 0) $ and $(-1, 0)$ $f$ gets respectively the above mentioned values.






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                $2x^3+y^4le 2x^2+y^2 $=$x^2+x^2+y^2le x^2+1le 2$ . By the same way we get $2x^3+y^4ge 2x^3ge -2$. We finally check that on the points $(1, 0) $ and $(-1, 0)$ $f$ gets respectively the above mentioned values.






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                  $2x^3+y^4le 2x^2+y^2 $=$x^2+x^2+y^2le x^2+1le 2$ . By the same way we get $2x^3+y^4ge 2x^3ge -2$. We finally check that on the points $(1, 0) $ and $(-1, 0)$ $f$ gets respectively the above mentioned values.






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                  $2x^3+y^4le 2x^2+y^2 $=$x^2+x^2+y^2le x^2+1le 2$ . By the same way we get $2x^3+y^4ge 2x^3ge -2$. We finally check that on the points $(1, 0) $ and $(-1, 0)$ $f$ gets respectively the above mentioned values.







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