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Why would a fighter use the afterburner and air brakes at the same time?
What causes the sudden spool-up sound from an F-16 when enabling afterburner?How does flying with flaps differ from flying with airbrakes?Why do heavy bombers not carry air to air missiles?What are these boxes built into the tails of some fighters?Will afterburner work at settings less than full dry thrust?How does an aircraft distribute fuel equally between powering the turbines on the engine and injecting it into the afterburner?Why do military jets seem to always take off using the afterburner?Why does this regional jet have its air brakes wide open before touchdown?What effect would a afterburner have on the compressor if the nozzle outlet is not increased?What procedures are used for midair refueling without air supremacy?When, exactly, were the DC-8’s airbrakes removed?
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I was looking for air brake pictures on different fighters, and then I saw a Tornado using afterburner and air brake at the same time! Air brake duty is to reduce speed, isn't it? So why would a fighter burn so much fuel to increase thrust and then use speed brakes simultaneously?
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I was looking for air brake pictures on different fighters, and then I saw a Tornado using afterburner and air brake at the same time! Air brake duty is to reduce speed, isn't it? So why would a fighter burn so much fuel to increase thrust and then use speed brakes simultaneously?
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I was looking for air brake pictures on different fighters, and then I saw a Tornado using afterburner and air brake at the same time! Air brake duty is to reduce speed, isn't it? So why would a fighter burn so much fuel to increase thrust and then use speed brakes simultaneously?
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I was looking for air brake pictures on different fighters, and then I saw a Tornado using afterburner and air brake at the same time! Air brake duty is to reduce speed, isn't it? So why would a fighter burn so much fuel to increase thrust and then use speed brakes simultaneously?
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The first photo is from the Tornado Role Demonstration Team's display at RAF Leuchars in September 2012 (source).
That Sep '12 show or its preparation is on YouTube. Most of the instances of the air brakes as seen from the cockpit (looking behind) are followed by the swing-wing extending and the afterburner turning off (you can tell from the sound of the variable nozzle actuators).
While the photos are cool, I'd say it's just perfect timing before the pilot turned off the afterburner while slowing down.
Such example (above) can be seen after 7:40 in this video. Notice the wing position, and from the video notice the aforementioned sound once the wing is extended.
Another possible reason is slowing down for the spectators to see and hear the afterburner. That can also coincide with the fake bomb drop – a pyrotechnic wall of fire, the smoke of which can be seen in the first photo in the question (example below).
An RAF Tornado GR4 carries out a mock bombing run (BBC)
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Most jets don’t have fuel dumping system so when they need to reduce the weight in a short time they use afterburner to attain a permissible lending weight. However using afterburner causes aircraft to go supersonic very quickly. So they use speed brakes to stay subsonic.
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This answer is correct for a small handful of military aircraft, but states "most jets". This claim is utterly, absolutely incorrect. "Most jets" don't have afterburners.
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The first photo is from the Tornado Role Demonstration Team's display at RAF Leuchars in September 2012 (source).
That Sep '12 show or its preparation is on YouTube. Most of the instances of the air brakes as seen from the cockpit (looking behind) are followed by the swing-wing extending and the afterburner turning off (you can tell from the sound of the variable nozzle actuators).
While the photos are cool, I'd say it's just perfect timing before the pilot turned off the afterburner while slowing down.
Such example (above) can be seen after 7:40 in this video. Notice the wing position, and from the video notice the aforementioned sound once the wing is extended.
Another possible reason is slowing down for the spectators to see and hear the afterburner. That can also coincide with the fake bomb drop – a pyrotechnic wall of fire, the smoke of which can be seen in the first photo in the question (example below).
An RAF Tornado GR4 carries out a mock bombing run (BBC)
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The first photo is from the Tornado Role Demonstration Team's display at RAF Leuchars in September 2012 (source).
That Sep '12 show or its preparation is on YouTube. Most of the instances of the air brakes as seen from the cockpit (looking behind) are followed by the swing-wing extending and the afterburner turning off (you can tell from the sound of the variable nozzle actuators).
While the photos are cool, I'd say it's just perfect timing before the pilot turned off the afterburner while slowing down.
Such example (above) can be seen after 7:40 in this video. Notice the wing position, and from the video notice the aforementioned sound once the wing is extended.
Another possible reason is slowing down for the spectators to see and hear the afterburner. That can also coincide with the fake bomb drop – a pyrotechnic wall of fire, the smoke of which can be seen in the first photo in the question (example below).
An RAF Tornado GR4 carries out a mock bombing run (BBC)
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The first photo is from the Tornado Role Demonstration Team's display at RAF Leuchars in September 2012 (source).
That Sep '12 show or its preparation is on YouTube. Most of the instances of the air brakes as seen from the cockpit (looking behind) are followed by the swing-wing extending and the afterburner turning off (you can tell from the sound of the variable nozzle actuators).
While the photos are cool, I'd say it's just perfect timing before the pilot turned off the afterburner while slowing down.
Such example (above) can be seen after 7:40 in this video. Notice the wing position, and from the video notice the aforementioned sound once the wing is extended.
Another possible reason is slowing down for the spectators to see and hear the afterburner. That can also coincide with the fake bomb drop – a pyrotechnic wall of fire, the smoke of which can be seen in the first photo in the question (example below).
An RAF Tornado GR4 carries out a mock bombing run (BBC)
answered 8 hours ago
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The first photo is from the Tornado Role Demonstration Team's display at RAF Leuchars in September 2012 (source).
That Sep '12 show or its preparation is on YouTube. Most of the instances of the air brakes as seen from the cockpit (looking behind) are followed by the swing-wing extending and the afterburner turning off (you can tell from the sound of the variable nozzle actuators).
While the photos are cool, I'd say it's just perfect timing before the pilot turned off the afterburner while slowing down.
Such example (above) can be seen after 7:40 in this video. Notice the wing position, and from the video notice the aforementioned sound once the wing is extended.
Another possible reason is slowing down for the spectators to see and hear the afterburner. That can also coincide with the fake bomb drop – a pyrotechnic wall of fire, the smoke of which can be seen in the first photo in the question (example below).
An RAF Tornado GR4 carries out a mock bombing run (BBC)
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Most jets don’t have fuel dumping system so when they need to reduce the weight in a short time they use afterburner to attain a permissible lending weight. However using afterburner causes aircraft to go supersonic very quickly. So they use speed brakes to stay subsonic.
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This answer is correct for a small handful of military aircraft, but states "most jets". This claim is utterly, absolutely incorrect. "Most jets" don't have afterburners.
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Most jets don’t have fuel dumping system so when they need to reduce the weight in a short time they use afterburner to attain a permissible lending weight. However using afterburner causes aircraft to go supersonic very quickly. So they use speed brakes to stay subsonic.
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This answer is correct for a small handful of military aircraft, but states "most jets". This claim is utterly, absolutely incorrect. "Most jets" don't have afterburners.
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Most jets don’t have fuel dumping system so when they need to reduce the weight in a short time they use afterburner to attain a permissible lending weight. However using afterburner causes aircraft to go supersonic very quickly. So they use speed brakes to stay subsonic.
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Most jets don’t have fuel dumping system so when they need to reduce the weight in a short time they use afterburner to attain a permissible lending weight. However using afterburner causes aircraft to go supersonic very quickly. So they use speed brakes to stay subsonic.
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This answer is correct for a small handful of military aircraft, but states "most jets". This claim is utterly, absolutely incorrect. "Most jets" don't have afterburners.
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@RalphJ anybody with a sane mind would understand “most jets with afterburner”
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This answer is correct for a small handful of military aircraft, but states "most jets". This claim is utterly, absolutely incorrect. "Most jets" don't have afterburners.
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@RalphJ anybody with a sane mind would understand “most jets with afterburner”
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