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Can a stressful Wish's Strength reduction be cured early by a Greater Restoration spell?


Does the wish spell trigger the 33% automatically?Does using Wish for a use that's mentioned elsewhere, but that's not duplicating a spell, cause stress?Does the wish-granting Efreeti from an Efreeti Bottle suffer wish stress?Can non-preventable damage be circumvented by Relentless Endurance?Does a Simulacrum-Wish combo affect the original caster?Can you use Wish to allow yourself to cast Wish without risks?Does Greater Restoration also end the effects cured by Lesser Restoration?Can either flavor of Restoration remove the Frightened condition?Do spellcasters know that the Lesser and Greater Restoration spells can cure madness?What happens if an Arcana Cleric makes a Divine Intervention of a stressful Wish?






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Casting a stressful Wish has dire consequences, including a Strength reduction:




The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...] In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it isn't 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days.




The Greater Restoration spell can normally be used to cure an ability score reduction :




You can [...] end [...] any reduction to one of the target's ability scores




Is the Greater Restoration spell strong enough to undo a Stressful Wish's Strength reduction early ?










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    Casting a stressful Wish has dire consequences, including a Strength reduction:




    The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...] In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it isn't 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days.




    The Greater Restoration spell can normally be used to cure an ability score reduction :




    You can [...] end [...] any reduction to one of the target's ability scores




    Is the Greater Restoration spell strong enough to undo a Stressful Wish's Strength reduction early ?










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      Casting a stressful Wish has dire consequences, including a Strength reduction:




      The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...] In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it isn't 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days.




      The Greater Restoration spell can normally be used to cure an ability score reduction :




      You can [...] end [...] any reduction to one of the target's ability scores




      Is the Greater Restoration spell strong enough to undo a Stressful Wish's Strength reduction early ?










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      Casting a stressful Wish has dire consequences, including a Strength reduction:




      The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...] In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it isn't 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days.




      The Greater Restoration spell can normally be used to cure an ability score reduction :




      You can [...] end [...] any reduction to one of the target's ability scores




      Is the Greater Restoration spell strong enough to undo a Stressful Wish's Strength reduction early ?







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          By RAW, yes, as the rules for Wish don't say anything about magic not being able to end the reduction



          You've already quoted in your question the relevant portion of Greater Restoration, which says that it can end any reduction in Ability Scores. In 5e, Specific beats General, and there are no hidden rules. Because Wish doesn't say anything about the Strength decrease that you haven't already mentioned, the more specific rules are those of Greater Restoration.



          Do note, however, that Greater Restoration does nothing about the other effects of Wish's stress.






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            A Greater Restoration can cure the ability score reduction caused by a stressful Wish.



            Wish (PHB 288):




            The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than
            duplicating another spell weakens you. After enduring that stress,
            each time you cast a spell until you finish a long rest, you take 1d10
            necrotic damage per level of that spell. This damage can’t be reduced
            or prevented in any way. In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it
            isn’t 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that
            you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your
            remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days. Finally, there is a 33
            percent chance that you are unable to cast wish ever again if you
            suffer this stress.




            Note that the necrotic damage caused by this stressful Wish can't be reduced by any means, but the ability score reduction has no such text.



            Greater Restoration (PHB 246):




            • Any reduction to one of the target’s ability scores



            Can restore any ability score reduction including that of a (stressful) Wish.






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              By RAW, yes, as the rules for Wish don't say anything about magic not being able to end the reduction



              You've already quoted in your question the relevant portion of Greater Restoration, which says that it can end any reduction in Ability Scores. In 5e, Specific beats General, and there are no hidden rules. Because Wish doesn't say anything about the Strength decrease that you haven't already mentioned, the more specific rules are those of Greater Restoration.



              Do note, however, that Greater Restoration does nothing about the other effects of Wish's stress.






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                By RAW, yes, as the rules for Wish don't say anything about magic not being able to end the reduction



                You've already quoted in your question the relevant portion of Greater Restoration, which says that it can end any reduction in Ability Scores. In 5e, Specific beats General, and there are no hidden rules. Because Wish doesn't say anything about the Strength decrease that you haven't already mentioned, the more specific rules are those of Greater Restoration.



                Do note, however, that Greater Restoration does nothing about the other effects of Wish's stress.






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                  By RAW, yes, as the rules for Wish don't say anything about magic not being able to end the reduction



                  You've already quoted in your question the relevant portion of Greater Restoration, which says that it can end any reduction in Ability Scores. In 5e, Specific beats General, and there are no hidden rules. Because Wish doesn't say anything about the Strength decrease that you haven't already mentioned, the more specific rules are those of Greater Restoration.



                  Do note, however, that Greater Restoration does nothing about the other effects of Wish's stress.






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                  By RAW, yes, as the rules for Wish don't say anything about magic not being able to end the reduction



                  You've already quoted in your question the relevant portion of Greater Restoration, which says that it can end any reduction in Ability Scores. In 5e, Specific beats General, and there are no hidden rules. Because Wish doesn't say anything about the Strength decrease that you haven't already mentioned, the more specific rules are those of Greater Restoration.



                  Do note, however, that Greater Restoration does nothing about the other effects of Wish's stress.







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                      A Greater Restoration can cure the ability score reduction caused by a stressful Wish.



                      Wish (PHB 288):




                      The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than
                      duplicating another spell weakens you. After enduring that stress,
                      each time you cast a spell until you finish a long rest, you take 1d10
                      necrotic damage per level of that spell. This damage can’t be reduced
                      or prevented in any way. In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it
                      isn’t 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that
                      you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your
                      remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days. Finally, there is a 33
                      percent chance that you are unable to cast wish ever again if you
                      suffer this stress.




                      Note that the necrotic damage caused by this stressful Wish can't be reduced by any means, but the ability score reduction has no such text.



                      Greater Restoration (PHB 246):




                      • Any reduction to one of the target’s ability scores



                      Can restore any ability score reduction including that of a (stressful) Wish.






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                        A Greater Restoration can cure the ability score reduction caused by a stressful Wish.



                        Wish (PHB 288):




                        The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than
                        duplicating another spell weakens you. After enduring that stress,
                        each time you cast a spell until you finish a long rest, you take 1d10
                        necrotic damage per level of that spell. This damage can’t be reduced
                        or prevented in any way. In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it
                        isn’t 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that
                        you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your
                        remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days. Finally, there is a 33
                        percent chance that you are unable to cast wish ever again if you
                        suffer this stress.




                        Note that the necrotic damage caused by this stressful Wish can't be reduced by any means, but the ability score reduction has no such text.



                        Greater Restoration (PHB 246):




                        • Any reduction to one of the target’s ability scores



                        Can restore any ability score reduction including that of a (stressful) Wish.






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                          A Greater Restoration can cure the ability score reduction caused by a stressful Wish.



                          Wish (PHB 288):




                          The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than
                          duplicating another spell weakens you. After enduring that stress,
                          each time you cast a spell until you finish a long rest, you take 1d10
                          necrotic damage per level of that spell. This damage can’t be reduced
                          or prevented in any way. In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it
                          isn’t 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that
                          you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your
                          remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days. Finally, there is a 33
                          percent chance that you are unable to cast wish ever again if you
                          suffer this stress.




                          Note that the necrotic damage caused by this stressful Wish can't be reduced by any means, but the ability score reduction has no such text.



                          Greater Restoration (PHB 246):




                          • Any reduction to one of the target’s ability scores



                          Can restore any ability score reduction including that of a (stressful) Wish.






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                          A Greater Restoration can cure the ability score reduction caused by a stressful Wish.



                          Wish (PHB 288):




                          The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than
                          duplicating another spell weakens you. After enduring that stress,
                          each time you cast a spell until you finish a long rest, you take 1d10
                          necrotic damage per level of that spell. This damage can’t be reduced
                          or prevented in any way. In addition, your Strength drops to 3, if it
                          isn’t 3 or lower already, for 2d4 days. For each of those days that
                          you spend resting and doing nothing more than light activity, your
                          remaining recovery time decreases by 2 days. Finally, there is a 33
                          percent chance that you are unable to cast wish ever again if you
                          suffer this stress.




                          Note that the necrotic damage caused by this stressful Wish can't be reduced by any means, but the ability score reduction has no such text.



                          Greater Restoration (PHB 246):




                          • Any reduction to one of the target’s ability scores



                          Can restore any ability score reduction including that of a (stressful) Wish.







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