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Can a rogue use sneak attack with weapons that have the thrown property even if they are not thrown?
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InAre weapons with the “Thrown” property considered a “Ranged Weapon” for the purpose of sharpshooter?Can a paladin use divine smite with a thrown weapon?Can a paladin use divine smite with a thrown weapon?Can a Grappler Rogue Sneak Attack while grappling?Can I sneak attack with Green-Flame Blade or Booming Blade?Are weapons with the “Thrown” property considered a “Ranged Weapon” for the purpose of sharpshooter?Since Thrown weapons aren't “ranged weapons” for the purpose of Archery, are they melee weapons for the purpose of Dueling?Does the Thrown property mean I can attack with my DEX?Using a ranged weapon with the Ammunition property for a melee attackCan a shortsword-wielding monk/rogue use the Martial Arts damage die and still qualify for Sneak Attack?When throwing a melee weapon without the thrown property is the proficiency bonus still added to the attack?Are there any balance issues with allowing thrown Javelins to be drawn for free like ammunition weapons?
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For weapons like the spear that have the Thrown property, can a Rogue use sneak attack with them?
Thrown is considered a ranged attack and Sneak Attack specifies that "The attack must use a finesse or ranged weapon."
Does this mean a rogue could potentially apply Sneak Attack to an attack using a spear as it is technically a ranged weapon? If so, would this also work if you were using the spear in melee?
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For weapons like the spear that have the Thrown property, can a Rogue use sneak attack with them?
Thrown is considered a ranged attack and Sneak Attack specifies that "The attack must use a finesse or ranged weapon."
Does this mean a rogue could potentially apply Sneak Attack to an attack using a spear as it is technically a ranged weapon? If so, would this also work if you were using the spear in melee?
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For weapons like the spear that have the Thrown property, can a Rogue use sneak attack with them?
Thrown is considered a ranged attack and Sneak Attack specifies that "The attack must use a finesse or ranged weapon."
Does this mean a rogue could potentially apply Sneak Attack to an attack using a spear as it is technically a ranged weapon? If so, would this also work if you were using the spear in melee?
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For weapons like the spear that have the Thrown property, can a Rogue use sneak attack with them?
Thrown is considered a ranged attack and Sneak Attack specifies that "The attack must use a finesse or ranged weapon."
Does this mean a rogue could potentially apply Sneak Attack to an attack using a spear as it is technically a ranged weapon? If so, would this also work if you were using the spear in melee?
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Sneak Attack does not work with melee weapons that have the thrown property, but lack the finesse property
The Rouge's Sneak Attack feature states:
The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.
A melee weapon cannot simultaneously be a ranged weapon because as the Weapons section (PHB, p146) states:
Every weapon is classified as either melee or ranged.
Infact, a weapon must be listed in either the Simple or Martial Ranged Weapons tables to be considered a ranged weapon.
Moreover, the thrown property (PHB, p146) does not turn a melee weapon into a ranged weapon. It states:
If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon. For example, if you throw a handaxe, you use your Strength, but if you throw a dagger, you can use either your Strength or your Dexterity, since the dagger has the finesse property.
Making a ranged attack does imply using a ranged weapon.
The thrown property allows you to make a ranged attack by throwing the melee weapon despite it being melee weapon.
Whether or not you throw a melee weapon does not matter. If it lacks the finesse property, then it won't work with Sneak Attack.
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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No. A thrown weapon is not a ranged weapon for sneak attack.
tl;dr a melee weapons does not become a ranged weapon even you throw it nor does it count as a ranged weapon.
As discussed here: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/87566/38434
Like sneak attack, another class feature that requires a ranged weapon is archery fighting style. For that feature there is a canonical answer regarding if thrown weapons count as ranged weapons. Per Sage Advice they do not:
Does the Archery fighting style work with a melee weapon that you throw? No, the Archery feature benefits ranged weapons. A melee weapon, such as a dagger or handaxe, is still a melee weapon when you make a ranged attack with it.
So the spear in your example is not a ranged weapon.
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Sneak Attack does not work with melee weapons that have the thrown property, but lack the finesse property
The Rouge's Sneak Attack feature states:
The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.
A melee weapon cannot simultaneously be a ranged weapon because as the Weapons section (PHB, p146) states:
Every weapon is classified as either melee or ranged.
Infact, a weapon must be listed in either the Simple or Martial Ranged Weapons tables to be considered a ranged weapon.
Moreover, the thrown property (PHB, p146) does not turn a melee weapon into a ranged weapon. It states:
If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon. For example, if you throw a handaxe, you use your Strength, but if you throw a dagger, you can use either your Strength or your Dexterity, since the dagger has the finesse property.
Making a ranged attack does imply using a ranged weapon.
The thrown property allows you to make a ranged attack by throwing the melee weapon despite it being melee weapon.
Whether or not you throw a melee weapon does not matter. If it lacks the finesse property, then it won't work with Sneak Attack.
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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– linksassin
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$begingroup$
Sneak Attack does not work with melee weapons that have the thrown property, but lack the finesse property
The Rouge's Sneak Attack feature states:
The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.
A melee weapon cannot simultaneously be a ranged weapon because as the Weapons section (PHB, p146) states:
Every weapon is classified as either melee or ranged.
Infact, a weapon must be listed in either the Simple or Martial Ranged Weapons tables to be considered a ranged weapon.
Moreover, the thrown property (PHB, p146) does not turn a melee weapon into a ranged weapon. It states:
If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon. For example, if you throw a handaxe, you use your Strength, but if you throw a dagger, you can use either your Strength or your Dexterity, since the dagger has the finesse property.
Making a ranged attack does imply using a ranged weapon.
The thrown property allows you to make a ranged attack by throwing the melee weapon despite it being melee weapon.
Whether or not you throw a melee weapon does not matter. If it lacks the finesse property, then it won't work with Sneak Attack.
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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– linksassin
45 mins ago
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Sneak Attack does not work with melee weapons that have the thrown property, but lack the finesse property
The Rouge's Sneak Attack feature states:
The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.
A melee weapon cannot simultaneously be a ranged weapon because as the Weapons section (PHB, p146) states:
Every weapon is classified as either melee or ranged.
Infact, a weapon must be listed in either the Simple or Martial Ranged Weapons tables to be considered a ranged weapon.
Moreover, the thrown property (PHB, p146) does not turn a melee weapon into a ranged weapon. It states:
If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon. For example, if you throw a handaxe, you use your Strength, but if you throw a dagger, you can use either your Strength or your Dexterity, since the dagger has the finesse property.
Making a ranged attack does imply using a ranged weapon.
The thrown property allows you to make a ranged attack by throwing the melee weapon despite it being melee weapon.
Whether or not you throw a melee weapon does not matter. If it lacks the finesse property, then it won't work with Sneak Attack.
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Sneak Attack does not work with melee weapons that have the thrown property, but lack the finesse property
The Rouge's Sneak Attack feature states:
The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.
A melee weapon cannot simultaneously be a ranged weapon because as the Weapons section (PHB, p146) states:
Every weapon is classified as either melee or ranged.
Infact, a weapon must be listed in either the Simple or Martial Ranged Weapons tables to be considered a ranged weapon.
Moreover, the thrown property (PHB, p146) does not turn a melee weapon into a ranged weapon. It states:
If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack. If the weapon is a melee weapon, you use the same ability modifier for that attack roll and damage roll that you would use for a melee attack with the weapon. For example, if you throw a handaxe, you use your Strength, but if you throw a dagger, you can use either your Strength or your Dexterity, since the dagger has the finesse property.
Making a ranged attack does imply using a ranged weapon.
The thrown property allows you to make a ranged attack by throwing the melee weapon despite it being melee weapon.
Whether or not you throw a melee weapon does not matter. If it lacks the finesse property, then it won't work with Sneak Attack.
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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– linksassin
45 mins ago
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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– linksassin
45 mins ago
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+1 For thrown weapons are not ranged weapons. That is clearly the OP's misunderstanding and is absolutely the most important point.
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No. A thrown weapon is not a ranged weapon for sneak attack.
tl;dr a melee weapons does not become a ranged weapon even you throw it nor does it count as a ranged weapon.
As discussed here: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/87566/38434
Like sneak attack, another class feature that requires a ranged weapon is archery fighting style. For that feature there is a canonical answer regarding if thrown weapons count as ranged weapons. Per Sage Advice they do not:
Does the Archery fighting style work with a melee weapon that you throw? No, the Archery feature benefits ranged weapons. A melee weapon, such as a dagger or handaxe, is still a melee weapon when you make a ranged attack with it.
So the spear in your example is not a ranged weapon.
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No. A thrown weapon is not a ranged weapon for sneak attack.
tl;dr a melee weapons does not become a ranged weapon even you throw it nor does it count as a ranged weapon.
As discussed here: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/87566/38434
Like sneak attack, another class feature that requires a ranged weapon is archery fighting style. For that feature there is a canonical answer regarding if thrown weapons count as ranged weapons. Per Sage Advice they do not:
Does the Archery fighting style work with a melee weapon that you throw? No, the Archery feature benefits ranged weapons. A melee weapon, such as a dagger or handaxe, is still a melee weapon when you make a ranged attack with it.
So the spear in your example is not a ranged weapon.
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No. A thrown weapon is not a ranged weapon for sneak attack.
tl;dr a melee weapons does not become a ranged weapon even you throw it nor does it count as a ranged weapon.
As discussed here: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/87566/38434
Like sneak attack, another class feature that requires a ranged weapon is archery fighting style. For that feature there is a canonical answer regarding if thrown weapons count as ranged weapons. Per Sage Advice they do not:
Does the Archery fighting style work with a melee weapon that you throw? No, the Archery feature benefits ranged weapons. A melee weapon, such as a dagger or handaxe, is still a melee weapon when you make a ranged attack with it.
So the spear in your example is not a ranged weapon.
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No. A thrown weapon is not a ranged weapon for sneak attack.
tl;dr a melee weapons does not become a ranged weapon even you throw it nor does it count as a ranged weapon.
As discussed here: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/a/87566/38434
Like sneak attack, another class feature that requires a ranged weapon is archery fighting style. For that feature there is a canonical answer regarding if thrown weapons count as ranged weapons. Per Sage Advice they do not:
Does the Archery fighting style work with a melee weapon that you throw? No, the Archery feature benefits ranged weapons. A melee weapon, such as a dagger or handaxe, is still a melee weapon when you make a ranged attack with it.
So the spear in your example is not a ranged weapon.
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