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Our DM originally began with Brooches of Shielding to nerf the Sorlock and Bladelock. After realizing that we had a new revenue stream after killing them and selling them (after any member of the party who wanted one, got one), and that the Sorlock and Wizard had other spells that were doing "too much damage". He has recently started having all bosses drink a potions of Spell Resistance & Invulnerability, giving them both advantage on saves and half damage. Other than Heightened spell, which only one character has, is there any way to bypass this "nerfing" of our party?

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Our DM originally began with Brooches of Shielding to nerf the Sorlock and Bladelock. After realizing that we had a new revenue stream after killing them and selling them (after any member of the party who wanted one, got one), and that the Sorlock and Wizard had other spells that were doing "too much damage". He has recently started having all bosses drink a potions of Spell Resistance & Invulnerability, giving them both advantage on saves and half damage. Other than Heightened spell, which only one character has, is there any way to bypass this "nerfing" of our party?

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Our DM originally began with Brooches of Shielding to nerf the Sorlock and Bladelock. After realizing that we had a new revenue stream after killing them and selling them (after any member of the party who wanted one, got one), and that the Sorlock and Wizard had other spells that were doing "too much damage". He has recently started having all bosses drink a potions of Spell Resistance & Invulnerability, giving them both advantage on saves and half damage. Other than Heightened spell, which only one character has, is there any way to bypass this "nerfing" of our party?

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It is difficult to counteract homebrew rules/items

"Spell resistance" is only ever specified under the 7th level class feature of Oath of Ancients paladin granting resistance to all spell damage to anyone in their aura. This homebrew is basically combining that mechanic with magical resistance, but doing so outside of that particular class. Doming up with a counter for a homebrew mechanic that provides advantage on all saves AND resistance to all damage types from spells becomes difficult because the RAW mechanics don't really account for this.

There are mechanics like Heightened which force disadvantage on a save and the feat Elemental Adept that lets you ignore resistance for a specific damage element - but a total mechanic of resistance to all damage from spells or ignoring advantage on saves doesn't exist because that isn't a RAW ability in general.

You need to talk with your DM

This sounds more like an issue at the table than an issue with mechanics or using mechanics to counteract in-game difficulties. Talk to your DM about why they feel the need to do this. They're basically granting Magic Resistance to all monsters (and CR should be adjusted accordingly) as well as giving them each the potion of invulnerability, a rare item that only lasts a minute (but maybe extending the minute and giving them a 'free' action to drink it.)

Either way, there's a deeper issue that needs to be resolved. Working around it will unlikely be successful.

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It is difficult to counteract homebrew rules/items

"Spell resistance" is only ever specified under the 7th level class feature of Oath of Ancients paladin granting resistance to all spell damage to anyone in their aura. This homebrew is basically combining that mechanic with magical resistance, but doing so outside of that particular class. Doming up with a counter for a homebrew mechanic that provides advantage on all saves AND resistance to all damage types from spells becomes difficult because the RAW mechanics don't really account for this.

There are mechanics like Heightened which force disadvantage on a save and the feat Elemental Adept that lets you ignore resistance for a specific damage element - but a total mechanic of resistance to all damage from spells or ignoring advantage on saves doesn't exist because that isn't a RAW ability in general.

You need to talk with your DM

This sounds more like an issue at the table than an issue with mechanics or using mechanics to counteract in-game difficulties. Talk to your DM about why they feel the need to do this. They're basically granting Magic Resistance to all monsters (and CR should be adjusted accordingly) as well as giving them each the potion of invulnerability, a rare item that only lasts a minute (but maybe extending the minute and giving them a 'free' action to drink it.)

Either way, there's a deeper issue that needs to be resolved. Working around it will unlikely be successful.

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It is difficult to counteract homebrew rules/items

"Spell resistance" is only ever specified under the 7th level class feature of Oath of Ancients paladin granting resistance to all spell damage to anyone in their aura. This homebrew is basically combining that mechanic with magical resistance, but doing so outside of that particular class. Doming up with a counter for a homebrew mechanic that provides advantage on all saves AND resistance to all damage types from spells becomes difficult because the RAW mechanics don't really account for this.

There are mechanics like Heightened which force disadvantage on a save and the feat Elemental Adept that lets you ignore resistance for a specific damage element - but a total mechanic of resistance to all damage from spells or ignoring advantage on saves doesn't exist because that isn't a RAW ability in general.

You need to talk with your DM

This sounds more like an issue at the table than an issue with mechanics or using mechanics to counteract in-game difficulties. Talk to your DM about why they feel the need to do this. They're basically granting Magic Resistance to all monsters (and CR should be adjusted accordingly) as well as giving them each the potion of invulnerability, a rare item that only lasts a minute (but maybe extending the minute and giving them a 'free' action to drink it.)

Either way, there's a deeper issue that needs to be resolved. Working around it will unlikely be successful.

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It is difficult to counteract homebrew rules/items

"Spell resistance" is only ever specified under the 7th level class feature of Oath of Ancients paladin granting resistance to all spell damage to anyone in their aura. This homebrew is basically combining that mechanic with magical resistance, but doing so outside of that particular class. Doming up with a counter for a homebrew mechanic that provides advantage on all saves AND resistance to all damage types from spells becomes difficult because the RAW mechanics don't really account for this.

There are mechanics like Heightened which force disadvantage on a save and the feat Elemental Adept that lets you ignore resistance for a specific damage element - but a total mechanic of resistance to all damage from spells or ignoring advantage on saves doesn't exist because that isn't a RAW ability in general.

You need to talk with your DM

This sounds more like an issue at the table than an issue with mechanics or using mechanics to counteract in-game difficulties. Talk to your DM about why they feel the need to do this. They're basically granting Magic Resistance to all monsters (and CR should be adjusted accordingly) as well as giving them each the potion of invulnerability, a rare item that only lasts a minute (but maybe extending the minute and giving them a 'free' action to drink it.)

Either way, there's a deeper issue that needs to be resolved. Working around it will unlikely be successful.

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