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How are steel imports supposed to threaten US national security?
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I am reading this article. Therein it is stated that:
Under national security grounds (Section 232), Trump applied tariffs of 25% on steel and 10% on aluminium in March 2018, covering $ 10.2 bn and $ 7.7 bn of US steel and aluminium imports, respectively
The paper further explains:
Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 gives authority to impose or increase tariffs on imports that are thought to threaten national security
It might be due to my complete unfamiliarity with the subject, but I fail to see any connection.
How do Mr. Trump and other adherents of this policy reason that steel Imports threaten national security?
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I am reading this article. Therein it is stated that:
Under national security grounds (Section 232), Trump applied tariffs of 25% on steel and 10% on aluminium in March 2018, covering $ 10.2 bn and $ 7.7 bn of US steel and aluminium imports, respectively
The paper further explains:
Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 gives authority to impose or increase tariffs on imports that are thought to threaten national security
It might be due to my complete unfamiliarity with the subject, but I fail to see any connection.
How do Mr. Trump and other adherents of this policy reason that steel Imports threaten national security?
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I am reading this article. Therein it is stated that:
Under national security grounds (Section 232), Trump applied tariffs of 25% on steel and 10% on aluminium in March 2018, covering $ 10.2 bn and $ 7.7 bn of US steel and aluminium imports, respectively
The paper further explains:
Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 gives authority to impose or increase tariffs on imports that are thought to threaten national security
It might be due to my complete unfamiliarity with the subject, but I fail to see any connection.
How do Mr. Trump and other adherents of this policy reason that steel Imports threaten national security?
united-states donald-trump trade
asked 11 hours ago
LudiLudi
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I am reading this article. Therein it is stated that:
Under national security grounds (Section 232), Trump applied tariffs of 25% on steel and 10% on aluminium in March 2018, covering $ 10.2 bn and $ 7.7 bn of US steel and aluminium imports, respectively
The paper further explains:
Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 gives authority to impose or increase tariffs on imports that are thought to threaten national security
It might be due to my complete unfamiliarity with the subject, but I fail to see any connection.
How do Mr. Trump and other adherents of this policy reason that steel Imports threaten national security?
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By allowing the import of steel, you encourage the dissolution through insolvency of native steel firms (because they often struggle to compete economically with imported steel). This means that you now rely on imported steel for things like tanks and what have you. During times of conflict, there's now the risk that your enemy will cut your supply chains through either use of force or diplomatic pressure and render you incapable of building those machines which are vital for national defense. If you maintain the native capacity to fill those requirements, you are at significantly less risk of being rendered suddenly incapable to build war material.
Note that the other metal targeted here, aluminum, is used heavily in the construction of aircraft and naval vessels.
While I don't know whether this argument was actually advanced by President Trump, it is one that I have heard for considering steel industry as vital to national security.
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Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
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@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
7
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
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@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
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There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
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By allowing the import of steel, you encourage the dissolution through insolvency of native steel firms (because they often struggle to compete economically with imported steel). This means that you now rely on imported steel for things like tanks and what have you. During times of conflict, there's now the risk that your enemy will cut your supply chains through either use of force or diplomatic pressure and render you incapable of building those machines which are vital for national defense. If you maintain the native capacity to fill those requirements, you are at significantly less risk of being rendered suddenly incapable to build war material.
Note that the other metal targeted here, aluminum, is used heavily in the construction of aircraft and naval vessels.
While I don't know whether this argument was actually advanced by President Trump, it is one that I have heard for considering steel industry as vital to national security.
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Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
2
@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
7
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
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@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
3
There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
– lejonet
4 hours ago
|
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By allowing the import of steel, you encourage the dissolution through insolvency of native steel firms (because they often struggle to compete economically with imported steel). This means that you now rely on imported steel for things like tanks and what have you. During times of conflict, there's now the risk that your enemy will cut your supply chains through either use of force or diplomatic pressure and render you incapable of building those machines which are vital for national defense. If you maintain the native capacity to fill those requirements, you are at significantly less risk of being rendered suddenly incapable to build war material.
Note that the other metal targeted here, aluminum, is used heavily in the construction of aircraft and naval vessels.
While I don't know whether this argument was actually advanced by President Trump, it is one that I have heard for considering steel industry as vital to national security.
edited 31 mins ago
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Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
2
@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
7
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
9
@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
3
There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
– lejonet
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
By allowing the import of steel, you encourage the dissolution through insolvency of native steel firms (because they often struggle to compete economically with imported steel). This means that you now rely on imported steel for things like tanks and what have you. During times of conflict, there's now the risk that your enemy will cut your supply chains through either use of force or diplomatic pressure and render you incapable of building those machines which are vital for national defense. If you maintain the native capacity to fill those requirements, you are at significantly less risk of being rendered suddenly incapable to build war material.
Note that the other metal targeted here, aluminum, is used heavily in the construction of aircraft and naval vessels.
While I don't know whether this argument was actually advanced by President Trump, it is one that I have heard for considering steel industry as vital to national security.
edited 31 mins ago
divibisan
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By allowing the import of steel, you encourage the dissolution through insolvency of native steel firms (because they often struggle to compete economically with imported steel). This means that you now rely on imported steel for things like tanks and what have you. During times of conflict, there's now the risk that your enemy will cut your supply chains through either use of force or diplomatic pressure and render you incapable of building those machines which are vital for national defense. If you maintain the native capacity to fill those requirements, you are at significantly less risk of being rendered suddenly incapable to build war material.
Note that the other metal targeted here, aluminum, is used heavily in the construction of aircraft and naval vessels.
While I don't know whether this argument was actually advanced by President Trump, it is one that I have heard for considering steel industry as vital to national security.
edited 31 mins ago
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Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
2
@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
7
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
9
@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
3
There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
– lejonet
4 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
2
@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
7
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
9
@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
3
There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
– lejonet
4 hours ago
Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
Oh, I see now! But I don’t expect this to happen, as long as the inland steel production is significantly greater than what is needed for military purposes. Is the situation of American Steel already that dire?
– Ludi
11 hours ago
2
2
@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
@Ludi I have no idea, sorry. My experience with the argument is in the United Kingdom; we recently have a large part of our native steel production going under due to cheap imports and this has been advanced as the reason why the government should bail them out.
– Dan Scally
11 hours ago
7
7
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
The problem with this argument, even if it is correct, is that Trump hasn't applied it to the many resources that are even more critical than steel and aluminum. Rare earth metals are just one example. The US no longer even bothers to mine its own rare earths and the people that had the skills and knowledge of how to do it won't be around forever. Aluminum and steel production could be ramped up in a relatively short time if necessary, but how does one start up rare earth mining and production from scratch?
– Ray Butterworth
9 hours ago
9
9
@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
@RayButterworth One might almost come to the conclusion that Trump et al either don't actually know what they're talking about, or else are simply saying what their electorate wants to hear.
– Dan Scally
9 hours ago
3
3
There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
– lejonet
4 hours ago
There is a wide variety of different steels that differ in composition, properties and price. I doubt that frequently imported and cheap steels, e.g. for the construction industry, are relevant for defense purposes. Sometimes, the public debate about “steel” is being conducted as if it was a simple resource in a computer game, not a complex group of products.
– lejonet
4 hours ago
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