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Is Zhent just the term for any member of the Zhentarim?
Are there any references for the night sky of Toril?How essential are the story suggestions for Waterdeep: Dragon Heist?What happens if a dragon in Waterdeep has permission to enter the city revoked?Are there any resources from other editions that are a good companion to the 5th edition Waterdeep adventures?Do the Zhentarim fire members for killing fellow members?Can any PC in the Waterdeep: Dragon Heist adventure join the Lords' Alliance after this event?When are the seasons in the Forgotten Realms calendar?Are “sambar” (electrum) coins minted and used in Waterdeep?Is there a recommended party size for Waterdeep: Dragon Heist?
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I'm starting to get confused by the term "Zhent" as I read it in the Waterdeep: Dragon Heist adventure, and how it is used. Is it just a term for any member of the Zhentarim?
I attempted to look this up myself in the Forgotten Realms Style Guide that's part of the DMs Guild Creator Resources, and in the list of "Location Adjectives" on pages 17–18, and it lists these:
- Zhentil Keep: Zhent (people), Zhentish (stuff)
- Zentarim: Zhentarian (stuff), Zhentilar (people; soldiers)
Now I'm not sure how much to trust this, as I'm assuming "Zentarim" is a typo for "Zhentarim" (and I've seen plenty of other typos in the document), but I can't find any references to "Zhentarian" or "Zhentilar" anywhere (either in the adventure, or via those D&D Beyond searches which I believe search all officially published 5e material).
Here are some mentions of "Zhent" in Dragon Heist, with some significant spoilers:
Adventurers can't join Manshoon's cause, but they can join and receive aid from the Zhents who are opposed to him. (p. 17)
Each Zhent has a black tattoo of a winged snake on his neck or forearm. (p. 25)
Staget makes it clear that he won't send a force into the sewers in search of someone who might well be a Zhent or Xanathat Guild spy. (p. 27)
But are these just some specific members of the Zhentarim (like those from Zhentil Keep) that are called "Zhent", or is it a generic term for any member of the faction?
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I'm starting to get confused by the term "Zhent" as I read it in the Waterdeep: Dragon Heist adventure, and how it is used. Is it just a term for any member of the Zhentarim?
I attempted to look this up myself in the Forgotten Realms Style Guide that's part of the DMs Guild Creator Resources, and in the list of "Location Adjectives" on pages 17–18, and it lists these:
- Zhentil Keep: Zhent (people), Zhentish (stuff)
- Zentarim: Zhentarian (stuff), Zhentilar (people; soldiers)
Now I'm not sure how much to trust this, as I'm assuming "Zentarim" is a typo for "Zhentarim" (and I've seen plenty of other typos in the document), but I can't find any references to "Zhentarian" or "Zhentilar" anywhere (either in the adventure, or via those D&D Beyond searches which I believe search all officially published 5e material).
Here are some mentions of "Zhent" in Dragon Heist, with some significant spoilers:
Adventurers can't join Manshoon's cause, but they can join and receive aid from the Zhents who are opposed to him. (p. 17)
Each Zhent has a black tattoo of a winged snake on his neck or forearm. (p. 25)
Staget makes it clear that he won't send a force into the sewers in search of someone who might well be a Zhent or Xanathat Guild spy. (p. 27)
But are these just some specific members of the Zhentarim (like those from Zhentil Keep) that are called "Zhent", or is it a generic term for any member of the faction?
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Where'd you read "Zhent" as the full word? (I recall seeing it in an adventure or two as well, but it might help to point to specific examples.)
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@V2Blast I'll add some citations from Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, as really I probably should have focused this question on in the first place.
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I'm starting to get confused by the term "Zhent" as I read it in the Waterdeep: Dragon Heist adventure, and how it is used. Is it just a term for any member of the Zhentarim?
I attempted to look this up myself in the Forgotten Realms Style Guide that's part of the DMs Guild Creator Resources, and in the list of "Location Adjectives" on pages 17–18, and it lists these:
- Zhentil Keep: Zhent (people), Zhentish (stuff)
- Zentarim: Zhentarian (stuff), Zhentilar (people; soldiers)
Now I'm not sure how much to trust this, as I'm assuming "Zentarim" is a typo for "Zhentarim" (and I've seen plenty of other typos in the document), but I can't find any references to "Zhentarian" or "Zhentilar" anywhere (either in the adventure, or via those D&D Beyond searches which I believe search all officially published 5e material).
Here are some mentions of "Zhent" in Dragon Heist, with some significant spoilers:
Adventurers can't join Manshoon's cause, but they can join and receive aid from the Zhents who are opposed to him. (p. 17)
Each Zhent has a black tattoo of a winged snake on his neck or forearm. (p. 25)
Staget makes it clear that he won't send a force into the sewers in search of someone who might well be a Zhent or Xanathat Guild spy. (p. 27)
But are these just some specific members of the Zhentarim (like those from Zhentil Keep) that are called "Zhent", or is it a generic term for any member of the faction?
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asked 9 hours ago
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I'm starting to get confused by the term "Zhent" as I read it in the Waterdeep: Dragon Heist adventure, and how it is used. Is it just a term for any member of the Zhentarim?
I attempted to look this up myself in the Forgotten Realms Style Guide that's part of the DMs Guild Creator Resources, and in the list of "Location Adjectives" on pages 17–18, and it lists these:
- Zhentil Keep: Zhent (people), Zhentish (stuff)
- Zentarim: Zhentarian (stuff), Zhentilar (people; soldiers)
Now I'm not sure how much to trust this, as I'm assuming "Zentarim" is a typo for "Zhentarim" (and I've seen plenty of other typos in the document), but I can't find any references to "Zhentarian" or "Zhentilar" anywhere (either in the adventure, or via those D&D Beyond searches which I believe search all officially published 5e material).
Here are some mentions of "Zhent" in Dragon Heist, with some significant spoilers:
Adventurers can't join Manshoon's cause, but they can join and receive aid from the Zhents who are opposed to him. (p. 17)
Each Zhent has a black tattoo of a winged snake on his neck or forearm. (p. 25)
Staget makes it clear that he won't send a force into the sewers in search of someone who might well be a Zhent or Xanathat Guild spy. (p. 27)
But are these just some specific members of the Zhentarim (like those from Zhentil Keep) that are called "Zhent", or is it a generic term for any member of the faction?
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Where'd you read "Zhent" as the full word? (I recall seeing it in an adventure or two as well, but it might help to point to specific examples.)
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@V2Blast I'll add some citations from Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, as really I probably should have focused this question on in the first place.
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Where'd you read "Zhent" as the full word? (I recall seeing it in an adventure or two as well, but it might help to point to specific examples.)
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– V2Blast♦
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@V2Blast I'll add some citations from Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, as really I probably should have focused this question on in the first place.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
3 hours ago
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Where'd you read "Zhent" as the full word? (I recall seeing it in an adventure or two as well, but it might help to point to specific examples.)
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– V2Blast♦
3 hours ago
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Where'd you read "Zhent" as the full word? (I recall seeing it in an adventure or two as well, but it might help to point to specific examples.)
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@V2Blast I'll add some citations from Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, as really I probably should have focused this question on in the first place.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
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@V2Blast I'll add some citations from Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, as really I probably should have focused this question on in the first place.
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Zhents are citizens/residents of Zhentil Keep (a city on the Moonsea). Zhentilar are members of the Zhentarim (the trade/criminal organisation).
The Zhentarim is named after the Keep, where it began and is headquartered. It’s also the effective government of the city.
Not all citizens of the city are members of the organisation (in fact, most aren’t). Soldiers of the city generally are, in that they work for the government.
Not all members of the organisation are from the city.
So you can have Zhents who are Zhentilar (members who are from the city), Zhents who are not Zhentilar (normal people from the city), and Zhentilar who are not Zhents (members who are from elsewhere than the city).
(Yes, anything without the H is just a typo.)
answered 8 hours ago
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So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
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And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
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@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
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– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
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@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
2 hours ago
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
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Zhents are citizens/residents of Zhentil Keep (a city on the Moonsea). Zhentilar are members of the Zhentarim (the trade/criminal organisation).
The Zhentarim is named after the Keep, where it began and is headquartered. It’s also the effective government of the city.
Not all citizens of the city are members of the organisation (in fact, most aren’t). Soldiers of the city generally are, in that they work for the government.
Not all members of the organisation are from the city.
So you can have Zhents who are Zhentilar (members who are from the city), Zhents who are not Zhentilar (normal people from the city), and Zhentilar who are not Zhents (members who are from elsewhere than the city).
(Yes, anything without the H is just a typo.)
answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
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And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
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@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
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– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
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@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
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Zhents are citizens/residents of Zhentil Keep (a city on the Moonsea). Zhentilar are members of the Zhentarim (the trade/criminal organisation).
The Zhentarim is named after the Keep, where it began and is headquartered. It’s also the effective government of the city.
Not all citizens of the city are members of the organisation (in fact, most aren’t). Soldiers of the city generally are, in that they work for the government.
Not all members of the organisation are from the city.
So you can have Zhents who are Zhentilar (members who are from the city), Zhents who are not Zhentilar (normal people from the city), and Zhentilar who are not Zhents (members who are from elsewhere than the city).
(Yes, anything without the H is just a typo.)
answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
4
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And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
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– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
2 hours ago
1
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
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– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago
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Zhents are citizens/residents of Zhentil Keep (a city on the Moonsea). Zhentilar are members of the Zhentarim (the trade/criminal organisation).
The Zhentarim is named after the Keep, where it began and is headquartered. It’s also the effective government of the city.
Not all citizens of the city are members of the organisation (in fact, most aren’t). Soldiers of the city generally are, in that they work for the government.
Not all members of the organisation are from the city.
So you can have Zhents who are Zhentilar (members who are from the city), Zhents who are not Zhentilar (normal people from the city), and Zhentilar who are not Zhents (members who are from elsewhere than the city).
(Yes, anything without the H is just a typo.)
answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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Zhents are citizens/residents of Zhentil Keep (a city on the Moonsea). Zhentilar are members of the Zhentarim (the trade/criminal organisation).
The Zhentarim is named after the Keep, where it began and is headquartered. It’s also the effective government of the city.
Not all citizens of the city are members of the organisation (in fact, most aren’t). Soldiers of the city generally are, in that they work for the government.
Not all members of the organisation are from the city.
So you can have Zhents who are Zhentilar (members who are from the city), Zhents who are not Zhentilar (normal people from the city), and Zhentilar who are not Zhents (members who are from elsewhere than the city).
(Yes, anything without the H is just a typo.)
answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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answered 8 hours ago
SevenSidedDieSevenSidedDie
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So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
2
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@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
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– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
2 hours ago
1
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
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– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago
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So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
2
$begingroup$
@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
$endgroup$
– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
2 hours ago
1
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago
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So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
So when Waterdeep: Dragon Heist has a character say that the Zhents did something, that's referring to a Zhentarim member who is from Zhentil Keep?
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
4
4
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And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
$begingroup$
And while I have no reason to doubt you're right, could you cite some sources? I feel like I keep getting more books and yet there's always more stuff out there I don't seem to have yet.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
7 hours ago
2
2
$begingroup$
@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
$endgroup$
– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@PeterCooperJr.: You can have a look at the Forgotten Realms Style Guide, which confirms SevenSidedDie's answer.
$endgroup$
– ZwiQ
5 hours ago
1
1
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@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
2 hours ago
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@ZwiQ My confusion between what the Forgotten Realms Style Guide says and what Waterdeep: Dragon Heist says is what precipitated the question. I've updated the question with some specific examples.
$endgroup$
– Peter Cooper Jr.
2 hours ago
1
1
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago
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@PeterCooperJr. When interplanar travel loosens up, you can find a Zhent in Ghent booking a flight to visit Stoke-on-Trent ...
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago
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Where'd you read "Zhent" as the full word? (I recall seeing it in an adventure or two as well, but it might help to point to specific examples.)
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– V2Blast♦
3 hours ago
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@V2Blast I'll add some citations from Waterdeep: Dragon Heist, as really I probably should have focused this question on in the first place.
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– Peter Cooper Jr.
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