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I have been trying to learn Object Oriented Design, but I find it very difficult to decide where to put behavior that deals with more than one type of object.



For example, I am building a REST API, it has User and Event entities.

Users can register for events.

Where to put registerUserForEvent(String userid, String eventid) and getRegisteredEventsForUser(String userid)?



registerUserForEvent():

If I put it in User class, it will have to know about how to check an event with given String eventId exists in the DB.
Vice versa if I put it in Event class.



getRegisteredEventsForUser():
This one is even harder, as this requires a JOIN in SQL (or an aggregate pipeline in MongoDB), which will need to know the internals of both User and Event classes. This leads to breaking encapsulation right?



So, what is the best way to model this in OO?










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    I have been trying to learn Object Oriented Design, but I find it very difficult to decide where to put behavior that deals with more than one type of object.



    For example, I am building a REST API, it has User and Event entities.

    Users can register for events.

    Where to put registerUserForEvent(String userid, String eventid) and getRegisteredEventsForUser(String userid)?



    registerUserForEvent():

    If I put it in User class, it will have to know about how to check an event with given String eventId exists in the DB.
    Vice versa if I put it in Event class.



    getRegisteredEventsForUser():
    This one is even harder, as this requires a JOIN in SQL (or an aggregate pipeline in MongoDB), which will need to know the internals of both User and Event classes. This leads to breaking encapsulation right?



    So, what is the best way to model this in OO?










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      I have been trying to learn Object Oriented Design, but I find it very difficult to decide where to put behavior that deals with more than one type of object.



      For example, I am building a REST API, it has User and Event entities.

      Users can register for events.

      Where to put registerUserForEvent(String userid, String eventid) and getRegisteredEventsForUser(String userid)?



      registerUserForEvent():

      If I put it in User class, it will have to know about how to check an event with given String eventId exists in the DB.
      Vice versa if I put it in Event class.



      getRegisteredEventsForUser():
      This one is even harder, as this requires a JOIN in SQL (or an aggregate pipeline in MongoDB), which will need to know the internals of both User and Event classes. This leads to breaking encapsulation right?



      So, what is the best way to model this in OO?










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      I have been trying to learn Object Oriented Design, but I find it very difficult to decide where to put behavior that deals with more than one type of object.



      For example, I am building a REST API, it has User and Event entities.

      Users can register for events.

      Where to put registerUserForEvent(String userid, String eventid) and getRegisteredEventsForUser(String userid)?



      registerUserForEvent():

      If I put it in User class, it will have to know about how to check an event with given String eventId exists in the DB.
      Vice versa if I put it in Event class.



      getRegisteredEventsForUser():
      This one is even harder, as this requires a JOIN in SQL (or an aggregate pipeline in MongoDB), which will need to know the internals of both User and Event classes. This leads to breaking encapsulation right?



      So, what is the best way to model this in OO?







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          Very often, when you have a behavior where you cannot decide which of two objects should have it, that is because either



          • the two objects should actually be one object or

          • there is a third object missing.

          A great example is the classic "Bank account" that is so often used as an introduction to OO. In the typical example, balance is data and deposit is an operation. This leads to all sorts of problems, but the one we are focusing on here is: where do you put the transfer method? If a transfers money to b, should it be a.transfer(b, amount) or b.transfer(a, amount)? Why would a even know about b? Why would b even know about a? Why would either of the two even know how to transfer money?



          However, that is actually not how banking works in real-life and is also not how banking systems are typically designed.



          In the real-world, deposit is actually data (it is a transaction slip) and balance is an operation (summing up all transaction slips for one account). This is the way banking was done for hundreds of years, and it is actually also how banking systems are written.



          This has some advantages for concurrency (now, both Accounts and TransactionSlips are immutable, and balance is a pure function). But, it also solves our conundrum above: neither a nor b know how to transfer money, the bank knows that. transfer is now actually new TransactionSlip(a, b, amount).



          Back to your specific example: it looks like what you are missing is at least one object, possibly even two:




          • Registration: Encapsulates the fact of a user being registered for an event


          • Registry: contains all Registrations





          share|improve this answer

























          • This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            5 hours ago






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            The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

            – Vector Zita
            4 hours ago











          • @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            4 hours ago







          • 1





            Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

            – Vector Zita
            3 hours ago







          • 1





            By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

            – Vector Zita
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          Very often, when you have a behavior where you cannot decide which of two objects should have it, that is because either



          • the two objects should actually be one object or

          • there is a third object missing.

          A great example is the classic "Bank account" that is so often used as an introduction to OO. In the typical example, balance is data and deposit is an operation. This leads to all sorts of problems, but the one we are focusing on here is: where do you put the transfer method? If a transfers money to b, should it be a.transfer(b, amount) or b.transfer(a, amount)? Why would a even know about b? Why would b even know about a? Why would either of the two even know how to transfer money?



          However, that is actually not how banking works in real-life and is also not how banking systems are typically designed.



          In the real-world, deposit is actually data (it is a transaction slip) and balance is an operation (summing up all transaction slips for one account). This is the way banking was done for hundreds of years, and it is actually also how banking systems are written.



          This has some advantages for concurrency (now, both Accounts and TransactionSlips are immutable, and balance is a pure function). But, it also solves our conundrum above: neither a nor b know how to transfer money, the bank knows that. transfer is now actually new TransactionSlip(a, b, amount).



          Back to your specific example: it looks like what you are missing is at least one object, possibly even two:




          • Registration: Encapsulates the fact of a user being registered for an event


          • Registry: contains all Registrations





          share|improve this answer

























          • This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

            – Vector Zita
            4 hours ago











          • @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            4 hours ago







          • 1





            Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

            – Vector Zita
            3 hours ago







          • 1





            By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

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          Very often, when you have a behavior where you cannot decide which of two objects should have it, that is because either



          • the two objects should actually be one object or

          • there is a third object missing.

          A great example is the classic "Bank account" that is so often used as an introduction to OO. In the typical example, balance is data and deposit is an operation. This leads to all sorts of problems, but the one we are focusing on here is: where do you put the transfer method? If a transfers money to b, should it be a.transfer(b, amount) or b.transfer(a, amount)? Why would a even know about b? Why would b even know about a? Why would either of the two even know how to transfer money?



          However, that is actually not how banking works in real-life and is also not how banking systems are typically designed.



          In the real-world, deposit is actually data (it is a transaction slip) and balance is an operation (summing up all transaction slips for one account). This is the way banking was done for hundreds of years, and it is actually also how banking systems are written.



          This has some advantages for concurrency (now, both Accounts and TransactionSlips are immutable, and balance is a pure function). But, it also solves our conundrum above: neither a nor b know how to transfer money, the bank knows that. transfer is now actually new TransactionSlip(a, b, amount).



          Back to your specific example: it looks like what you are missing is at least one object, possibly even two:




          • Registration: Encapsulates the fact of a user being registered for an event


          • Registry: contains all Registrations





          share|improve this answer

























          • This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

            – Vector Zita
            4 hours ago











          • @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            4 hours ago







          • 1





            Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

            – Vector Zita
            3 hours ago







          • 1





            By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

            – Vector Zita
            1 hour ago













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          Very often, when you have a behavior where you cannot decide which of two objects should have it, that is because either



          • the two objects should actually be one object or

          • there is a third object missing.

          A great example is the classic "Bank account" that is so often used as an introduction to OO. In the typical example, balance is data and deposit is an operation. This leads to all sorts of problems, but the one we are focusing on here is: where do you put the transfer method? If a transfers money to b, should it be a.transfer(b, amount) or b.transfer(a, amount)? Why would a even know about b? Why would b even know about a? Why would either of the two even know how to transfer money?



          However, that is actually not how banking works in real-life and is also not how banking systems are typically designed.



          In the real-world, deposit is actually data (it is a transaction slip) and balance is an operation (summing up all transaction slips for one account). This is the way banking was done for hundreds of years, and it is actually also how banking systems are written.



          This has some advantages for concurrency (now, both Accounts and TransactionSlips are immutable, and balance is a pure function). But, it also solves our conundrum above: neither a nor b know how to transfer money, the bank knows that. transfer is now actually new TransactionSlip(a, b, amount).



          Back to your specific example: it looks like what you are missing is at least one object, possibly even two:




          • Registration: Encapsulates the fact of a user being registered for an event


          • Registry: contains all Registrations





          share|improve this answer













          Very often, when you have a behavior where you cannot decide which of two objects should have it, that is because either



          • the two objects should actually be one object or

          • there is a third object missing.

          A great example is the classic "Bank account" that is so often used as an introduction to OO. In the typical example, balance is data and deposit is an operation. This leads to all sorts of problems, but the one we are focusing on here is: where do you put the transfer method? If a transfers money to b, should it be a.transfer(b, amount) or b.transfer(a, amount)? Why would a even know about b? Why would b even know about a? Why would either of the two even know how to transfer money?



          However, that is actually not how banking works in real-life and is also not how banking systems are typically designed.



          In the real-world, deposit is actually data (it is a transaction slip) and balance is an operation (summing up all transaction slips for one account). This is the way banking was done for hundreds of years, and it is actually also how banking systems are written.



          This has some advantages for concurrency (now, both Accounts and TransactionSlips are immutable, and balance is a pure function). But, it also solves our conundrum above: neither a nor b know how to transfer money, the bank knows that. transfer is now actually new TransactionSlip(a, b, amount).



          Back to your specific example: it looks like what you are missing is at least one object, possibly even two:




          • Registration: Encapsulates the fact of a user being registered for an event


          • Registry: contains all Registrations






          share|improve this answer












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          • This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

            – Vector Zita
            4 hours ago











          • @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            4 hours ago







          • 1





            Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

            – Vector Zita
            3 hours ago







          • 1





            By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

            – Vector Zita
            1 hour ago

















          • This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            5 hours ago






          • 1





            The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

            – Vector Zita
            4 hours ago











          • @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

            – happycoder97
            4 hours ago







          • 1





            Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

            – Vector Zita
            3 hours ago







          • 1





            By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

            – Vector Zita
            1 hour ago
















          This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

          – happycoder97
          5 hours ago





          This is nice. But how to solve the problem of getRegisteredEventsForUser()? If I don't break encapsulation by doing a join, I will end up doing N+1 queries right?

          – happycoder97
          5 hours ago




          1




          1





          The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

          – Vector Zita
          4 hours ago





          The additional missing entity described here is not only a problem of your Object-Oriented Design, it is also a problem for your underlying database. The database should not only have a Users and an Events Table, it should also have a UserEventRegistrations Table acting as the associative entity, in order to be in first normal form. Then, querying this table should pose no problem. If you store EventIDs in the Users table and/or vice versa, then yes, you would probably need N+1 queries.

          – Vector Zita
          4 hours ago













          @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

          – happycoder97
          4 hours ago






          @VectorZita But even after creating a UserEventRegistrations table, it would still have to do joins or N+1 queries right?

          – happycoder97
          4 hours ago





          1




          1





          Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

          – Vector Zita
          3 hours ago






          Well, minimally, the table contains the fields (for example) [RegistrationID, UserID, EventID]. For each new registration, the table contains one record. Retrieving all events for a user or all users for an event are single-queries into that table, i.e. "select all [RegistrationID, EventID] from UserEventRegistrations, where UserID is John Doe".

          – Vector Zita
          3 hours ago





          1




          1





          By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

          – Vector Zita
          1 hour ago





          By "seats" you mean "how many users are left to register to the event" as in "each event has a limited number of potential listeners"? If so, there are various ways to deal with this type of concern. One of them, for example, is to actively track this number for each event, within your O-O design, i.e. maintain a map holding the number of users that are registered for each event. Upon every new event registration, the count will be increased for that event. This way, you don't need to calculate anything, your remaining_seats per event is always up-to-date, inside the map.

          – Vector Zita
          1 hour ago











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