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In case Brexit has already happened, can it be reversed after a short time?
Legally, the answer is no, I think.
But I can imagine a situation where, during the first few days after Brexit, all participants unanimously agree it should not have happened.
It is at least possible that the first days after Brexit create a crisis that makes all agree it went horribly wrong, and dangerously so.
From the EU side, let us assume it recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow.
If all relevant politicians of all parties in the UK would unanimously agree that it lead to a catastrophic crisis, and should be reverted at any cost - is that possible in any controlled way?
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In case Brexit has already happened, can it be reversed after a short time?
Legally, the answer is no, I think.
But I can imagine a situation where, during the first few days after Brexit, all participants unanimously agree it should not have happened.
It is at least possible that the first days after Brexit create a crisis that makes all agree it went horribly wrong, and dangerously so.
From the EU side, let us assume it recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow.
If all relevant politicians of all parties in the UK would unanimously agree that it lead to a catastrophic crisis, and should be reverted at any cost - is that possible in any controlled way?
united-kingdom brexit economy financial-crisis state-of-emergency
edited 6 hours ago
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The UK will never do this.
– Martin Schröder
7 hours ago
1
"The UK will never do this" is what I think about no deal Brexit to start with, and on US and electing Trump. What you say is rational, what happens may not be. I am still optimist regarding no no-deal, but very pessimistic about what happens after no-deal. Problems can cascade: Economy breakdown - mass protests - food shortage - banking system down... etc. Just sayin' ...
– Volker Siegel
6 hours ago
The UK is currently so much torn apart by the Brexit issue that I can not imagine a government of the UK successfully applying for some emergency admittance into the EU after a no-deal Brexit. That would never pass Westminster and Brussels would most likely reject that. The best the UK can hope for in that situation is help from the EU in handling the problems.
– Martin Schröder
6 hours ago
@MartinSchröder Yes, I am optimistic on the EU delivering humanitarian aid. If it really goes wrong, it would lead to a formal state of emergency. Maybe that makes negotiation easier. And the EU is interested in keeping the UK. After striping it of the UK rebates, maybe. Torn apart? Civil wars have happened for much smaller reasons. The EU may agree because it just lost money on handling Brexit changes. It can simply stop doing it.
– Volker Siegel
5 hours ago
After Brexit happens, the political discourse from Downing Street 10, never mind that of the ERG, is going to be that it is the EU's fault for all the crap that will happen.
– Fizz
2 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
In case Brexit has already happened, can it be reversed after a short time?
Legally, the answer is no, I think.
But I can imagine a situation where, during the first few days after Brexit, all participants unanimously agree it should not have happened.
It is at least possible that the first days after Brexit create a crisis that makes all agree it went horribly wrong, and dangerously so.
From the EU side, let us assume it recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow.
If all relevant politicians of all parties in the UK would unanimously agree that it lead to a catastrophic crisis, and should be reverted at any cost - is that possible in any controlled way?
united-kingdom brexit economy financial-crisis state-of-emergency
edited 6 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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asked 8 hours ago
Volker SiegelVolker Siegel
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In case Brexit has already happened, can it be reversed after a short time?
Legally, the answer is no, I think.
But I can imagine a situation where, during the first few days after Brexit, all participants unanimously agree it should not have happened.
It is at least possible that the first days after Brexit create a crisis that makes all agree it went horribly wrong, and dangerously so.
From the EU side, let us assume it recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow.
If all relevant politicians of all parties in the UK would unanimously agree that it lead to a catastrophic crisis, and should be reverted at any cost - is that possible in any controlled way?
united-kingdom brexit economy financial-crisis state-of-emergency
united-kingdom brexit economy financial-crisis state-of-emergency
edited 6 hours ago
Steve Melnikoff
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The UK will never do this.
– Martin Schröder
7 hours ago
1
"The UK will never do this" is what I think about no deal Brexit to start with, and on US and electing Trump. What you say is rational, what happens may not be. I am still optimist regarding no no-deal, but very pessimistic about what happens after no-deal. Problems can cascade: Economy breakdown - mass protests - food shortage - banking system down... etc. Just sayin' ...
– Volker Siegel
6 hours ago
The UK is currently so much torn apart by the Brexit issue that I can not imagine a government of the UK successfully applying for some emergency admittance into the EU after a no-deal Brexit. That would never pass Westminster and Brussels would most likely reject that. The best the UK can hope for in that situation is help from the EU in handling the problems.
– Martin Schröder
6 hours ago
@MartinSchröder Yes, I am optimistic on the EU delivering humanitarian aid. If it really goes wrong, it would lead to a formal state of emergency. Maybe that makes negotiation easier. And the EU is interested in keeping the UK. After striping it of the UK rebates, maybe. Torn apart? Civil wars have happened for much smaller reasons. The EU may agree because it just lost money on handling Brexit changes. It can simply stop doing it.
– Volker Siegel
5 hours ago
After Brexit happens, the political discourse from Downing Street 10, never mind that of the ERG, is going to be that it is the EU's fault for all the crap that will happen.
– Fizz
2 hours ago
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The UK will never do this.
– Martin Schröder
7 hours ago
1
"The UK will never do this" is what I think about no deal Brexit to start with, and on US and electing Trump. What you say is rational, what happens may not be. I am still optimist regarding no no-deal, but very pessimistic about what happens after no-deal. Problems can cascade: Economy breakdown - mass protests - food shortage - banking system down... etc. Just sayin' ...
– Volker Siegel
6 hours ago
The UK is currently so much torn apart by the Brexit issue that I can not imagine a government of the UK successfully applying for some emergency admittance into the EU after a no-deal Brexit. That would never pass Westminster and Brussels would most likely reject that. The best the UK can hope for in that situation is help from the EU in handling the problems.
– Martin Schröder
6 hours ago
@MartinSchröder Yes, I am optimistic on the EU delivering humanitarian aid. If it really goes wrong, it would lead to a formal state of emergency. Maybe that makes negotiation easier. And the EU is interested in keeping the UK. After striping it of the UK rebates, maybe. Torn apart? Civil wars have happened for much smaller reasons. The EU may agree because it just lost money on handling Brexit changes. It can simply stop doing it.
– Volker Siegel
5 hours ago
After Brexit happens, the political discourse from Downing Street 10, never mind that of the ERG, is going to be that it is the EU's fault for all the crap that will happen.
– Fizz
2 hours ago
The UK will never do this.
– Martin Schröder
7 hours ago
The UK will never do this.
– Martin Schröder
7 hours ago
1
1
"The UK will never do this" is what I think about no deal Brexit to start with, and on US and electing Trump. What you say is rational, what happens may not be. I am still optimist regarding no no-deal, but very pessimistic about what happens after no-deal. Problems can cascade: Economy breakdown - mass protests - food shortage - banking system down... etc. Just sayin' ...
– Volker Siegel
6 hours ago
"The UK will never do this" is what I think about no deal Brexit to start with, and on US and electing Trump. What you say is rational, what happens may not be. I am still optimist regarding no no-deal, but very pessimistic about what happens after no-deal. Problems can cascade: Economy breakdown - mass protests - food shortage - banking system down... etc. Just sayin' ...
– Volker Siegel
6 hours ago
The UK is currently so much torn apart by the Brexit issue that I can not imagine a government of the UK successfully applying for some emergency admittance into the EU after a no-deal Brexit. That would never pass Westminster and Brussels would most likely reject that. The best the UK can hope for in that situation is help from the EU in handling the problems.
– Martin Schröder
6 hours ago
The UK is currently so much torn apart by the Brexit issue that I can not imagine a government of the UK successfully applying for some emergency admittance into the EU after a no-deal Brexit. That would never pass Westminster and Brussels would most likely reject that. The best the UK can hope for in that situation is help from the EU in handling the problems.
– Martin Schröder
6 hours ago
@MartinSchröder Yes, I am optimistic on the EU delivering humanitarian aid. If it really goes wrong, it would lead to a formal state of emergency. Maybe that makes negotiation easier. And the EU is interested in keeping the UK. After striping it of the UK rebates, maybe. Torn apart? Civil wars have happened for much smaller reasons. The EU may agree because it just lost money on handling Brexit changes. It can simply stop doing it.
– Volker Siegel
5 hours ago
@MartinSchröder Yes, I am optimistic on the EU delivering humanitarian aid. If it really goes wrong, it would lead to a formal state of emergency. Maybe that makes negotiation easier. And the EU is interested in keeping the UK. After striping it of the UK rebates, maybe. Torn apart? Civil wars have happened for much smaller reasons. The EU may agree because it just lost money on handling Brexit changes. It can simply stop doing it.
– Volker Siegel
5 hours ago
After Brexit happens, the political discourse from Downing Street 10, never mind that of the ERG, is going to be that it is the EU's fault for all the crap that will happen.
– Fizz
2 hours ago
After Brexit happens, the political discourse from Downing Street 10, never mind that of the ERG, is going to be that it is the EU's fault for all the crap that will happen.
– Fizz
2 hours ago
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"Can it happen"? Sure, the laws of the EU are set by the members of the EU, if the members want to change the rules they can. They can re-admit the UK or not. If there is a law against it, the EU can just change the law. With sufficient political will on both sides it is possible.
"Will it happen"? After years of causing problems, how likely is it that the political will would exist?
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While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
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@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
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No. But the UK can apply for membership according to Article 49 of the Treaty on the European Union. This normally takes years. The article text:
Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.
The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.
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"Can it happen"? Sure, the laws of the EU are set by the members of the EU, if the members want to change the rules they can. They can re-admit the UK or not. If there is a law against it, the EU can just change the law. With sufficient political will on both sides it is possible.
"Will it happen"? After years of causing problems, how likely is it that the political will would exist?
answered 8 hours ago
James KJames K
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While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
1
@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
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"Can it happen"? Sure, the laws of the EU are set by the members of the EU, if the members want to change the rules they can. They can re-admit the UK or not. If there is a law against it, the EU can just change the law. With sufficient political will on both sides it is possible.
"Will it happen"? After years of causing problems, how likely is it that the political will would exist?
answered 8 hours ago
James KJames K
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While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
1
@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
add a comment
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"Can it happen"? Sure, the laws of the EU are set by the members of the EU, if the members want to change the rules they can. They can re-admit the UK or not. If there is a law against it, the EU can just change the law. With sufficient political will on both sides it is possible.
"Will it happen"? After years of causing problems, how likely is it that the political will would exist?
answered 8 hours ago
James KJames K
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"Can it happen"? Sure, the laws of the EU are set by the members of the EU, if the members want to change the rules they can. They can re-admit the UK or not. If there is a law against it, the EU can just change the law. With sufficient political will on both sides it is possible.
"Will it happen"? After years of causing problems, how likely is it that the political will would exist?
answered 8 hours ago
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While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
1
@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
add a comment
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1
While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
1
@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
1
1
While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
While I do agree with what you're saying, the answer would be a lot better with some background sources that support your argument. It also answers a question with another question "how likely is it that the political will would exist?", instead of explaining why there is or isn't a chance for the political will to exist. As is, it reads like a comment.
– Peter
7 hours ago
1
1
@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
@Peter: That would be answering a different question. This question assumes the EU "recognizes the crisis and is willing to cooperate in any way that its laws allow." Changing the laws is allowed by the laws, so this is a complete answer.
– Kevin
7 hours ago
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No. But the UK can apply for membership according to Article 49 of the Treaty on the European Union. This normally takes years. The article text:
Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.
The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.
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No. But the UK can apply for membership according to Article 49 of the Treaty on the European Union. This normally takes years. The article text:
Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.
The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.
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No. But the UK can apply for membership according to Article 49 of the Treaty on the European Union. This normally takes years. The article text:
Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.
The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.
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No. But the UK can apply for membership according to Article 49 of the Treaty on the European Union. This normally takes years. The article text:
Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.
The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.
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The UK will never do this.
– Martin Schröder
7 hours ago
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"The UK will never do this" is what I think about no deal Brexit to start with, and on US and electing Trump. What you say is rational, what happens may not be. I am still optimist regarding no no-deal, but very pessimistic about what happens after no-deal. Problems can cascade: Economy breakdown - mass protests - food shortage - banking system down... etc. Just sayin' ...
– Volker Siegel
6 hours ago
The UK is currently so much torn apart by the Brexit issue that I can not imagine a government of the UK successfully applying for some emergency admittance into the EU after a no-deal Brexit. That would never pass Westminster and Brussels would most likely reject that. The best the UK can hope for in that situation is help from the EU in handling the problems.
– Martin Schröder
6 hours ago
@MartinSchröder Yes, I am optimistic on the EU delivering humanitarian aid. If it really goes wrong, it would lead to a formal state of emergency. Maybe that makes negotiation easier. And the EU is interested in keeping the UK. After striping it of the UK rebates, maybe. Torn apart? Civil wars have happened for much smaller reasons. The EU may agree because it just lost money on handling Brexit changes. It can simply stop doing it.
– Volker Siegel
5 hours ago
After Brexit happens, the political discourse from Downing Street 10, never mind that of the ERG, is going to be that it is the EU's fault for all the crap that will happen.
– Fizz
2 hours ago