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Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually nilpotent group. Can an element $gin G$ of infinite order be conjugate to its power $g^n$ for $n>1$?



Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually abelian group. Is it true that elements of infinite order have finite conjugacy classes?



Note that for the infinite dihedral group non-trivial elements of finite order have infinite conjugacy classes.










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    For your second question, elements of infinite order could have either finite or infinite conjugacy classes.
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    An example of what exactly?
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Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually nilpotent group. Can an element $gin G$ of infinite order be conjugate to its power $g^n$ for $n>1$?



Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually abelian group. Is it true that elements of infinite order have finite conjugacy classes?



Note that for the infinite dihedral group non-trivial elements of finite order have infinite conjugacy classes.










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    For your second question, elements of infinite order could have either finite or infinite conjugacy classes.
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    &DerekHolt Could you give an example?
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  • $begingroup$
    An example of what exactly?
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Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually nilpotent group. Can an element $gin G$ of infinite order be conjugate to its power $g^n$ for $n>1$?



Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually abelian group. Is it true that elements of infinite order have finite conjugacy classes?



Note that for the infinite dihedral group non-trivial elements of finite order have infinite conjugacy classes.










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Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually nilpotent group. Can an element $gin G$ of infinite order be conjugate to its power $g^n$ for $n>1$?



Let $G$ be a f.g. virtually abelian group. Is it true that elements of infinite order have finite conjugacy classes?



Note that for the infinite dihedral group non-trivial elements of finite order have infinite conjugacy classes.







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    An example of what exactly?
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  • $begingroup$
    For your second question, elements of infinite order could have either finite or infinite conjugacy classes.
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    – Derek Holt
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    &DerekHolt Could you give an example?
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    – QMath
    7 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    An example of what exactly?
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    6 hours ago










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    &DerekHolt An example of a virtually abelian group and an element of infinite order with infinite conjugacy class.
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For your second question, elements of infinite order could have either finite or infinite conjugacy classes.
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– Derek Holt
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For your second question, elements of infinite order could have either finite or infinite conjugacy classes.
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&DerekHolt Could you give an example?
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An example of what exactly?
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&DerekHolt An example of a virtually abelian group and an element of infinite order with infinite conjugacy class.
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It is not possible for an infinite order element $g$ of a virtually nilpotent group to be conjugate to $g^n$ for $n>1$.



Suppose $t in G$ with $t^-1gt = g^n$. Then the subgroup $H = langle t,g rangle$ of $G$ is isomorphic to a quotient of the solvable Baumslag-Solitar group $X = = langle g,t mid t^-1gt=g^n rangle$.



Now $X$ has the abelian normal subgroup $Y := langle g^G rangle$, which is isomorphic to the additive group of rational numbers that can be written as $a/n^k$ for some $a,k in mathbb Z$. It is not hard to see that any nontrivial quotient of $Y$ is a torsion group, and also that no nontrivial normal subgroup of $X$ can intersect $Y$ trivially. So, since we are assuming that $g$ has infinite order, we have $H cong X$.



But $X$ is not virtually nilpotent. To see that, show that no subgroup of $X$ of finite index can have trivial centre.






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    All finite groups are virtually nilpotent, so consider the quaternion group $Q_8$. Then



    $j i j^-1 = j i (-j) = - i j (-j) = -i = i^3$.



    So an element is conjugate to its cube, so the answer to your first question is "Yes".






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      The quaternion group is even nilpotent.
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      Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
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    For a virtually abelian group $G$, the issue can be settled with some Euclidean geometry. The general structural theorem for virtually abelian groups is as follows (this is a summary of the Bieberbach Theorems):




    • $G$ has a unique maximal finite normal subgroup $N < G$,

    • The quotient $G / N$ is a Euclidean crystallographic group, meaning that is has a faithful, discrete, cocompact action (or representation) $G / N mapsto textIsom(mathbbE^n)$ for some $n ge 0$.

    Here I am using $mathbb E^n$ to denote Euclidean $n$-space, i.e. $mathbb R^n$ equipped with the standard metric, and $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ is its group of isometries.



    Let me denote the composed homomorphism
    $$f : G to G/N to textIsom(mathbb E^n)
    $$

    Its image is a discrete group, and it follows that an element of $f(G)$ has finite order if and only if it fixes a point.



    The key facts regarding order of elements are as follows:



    • For each $g in G$, the translation length $L_g$ of the isometry $f(g) : mathbb E^n to mathbb E^n$ is a conjugacy invariant of $g$.


    • $L_g = 0$ $iff$ $f(g)$ has finite order in $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ $iff$ $g$ has finite order in $G$.

    So if $g$ has infinite order then it is a translation with translation length $L_g > 0$, and it follows that $g^n$ is a translation with translation length $n cdot L_g ne L_g$. Since translation length is a conjugacy invariant, $g$ and $g^n$ are not conjugate.




    I suspect there is also a geometric solution to the virtually nilpotent case, as an alternative to the answer of @DerekHolt. In outline, $G$ still has a unique maximal normal subgroup $N$, and $G/N$ embeds as a lattice in a nilpotent Lie group $Gamma$, and I believe that one can then proceed using the geometry of the left invariant metric on $Gamma$.






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      It is not possible for an infinite order element $g$ of a virtually nilpotent group to be conjugate to $g^n$ for $n>1$.



      Suppose $t in G$ with $t^-1gt = g^n$. Then the subgroup $H = langle t,g rangle$ of $G$ is isomorphic to a quotient of the solvable Baumslag-Solitar group $X = = langle g,t mid t^-1gt=g^n rangle$.



      Now $X$ has the abelian normal subgroup $Y := langle g^G rangle$, which is isomorphic to the additive group of rational numbers that can be written as $a/n^k$ for some $a,k in mathbb Z$. It is not hard to see that any nontrivial quotient of $Y$ is a torsion group, and also that no nontrivial normal subgroup of $X$ can intersect $Y$ trivially. So, since we are assuming that $g$ has infinite order, we have $H cong X$.



      But $X$ is not virtually nilpotent. To see that, show that no subgroup of $X$ of finite index can have trivial centre.






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        It is not possible for an infinite order element $g$ of a virtually nilpotent group to be conjugate to $g^n$ for $n>1$.



        Suppose $t in G$ with $t^-1gt = g^n$. Then the subgroup $H = langle t,g rangle$ of $G$ is isomorphic to a quotient of the solvable Baumslag-Solitar group $X = = langle g,t mid t^-1gt=g^n rangle$.



        Now $X$ has the abelian normal subgroup $Y := langle g^G rangle$, which is isomorphic to the additive group of rational numbers that can be written as $a/n^k$ for some $a,k in mathbb Z$. It is not hard to see that any nontrivial quotient of $Y$ is a torsion group, and also that no nontrivial normal subgroup of $X$ can intersect $Y$ trivially. So, since we are assuming that $g$ has infinite order, we have $H cong X$.



        But $X$ is not virtually nilpotent. To see that, show that no subgroup of $X$ of finite index can have trivial centre.






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          It is not possible for an infinite order element $g$ of a virtually nilpotent group to be conjugate to $g^n$ for $n>1$.



          Suppose $t in G$ with $t^-1gt = g^n$. Then the subgroup $H = langle t,g rangle$ of $G$ is isomorphic to a quotient of the solvable Baumslag-Solitar group $X = = langle g,t mid t^-1gt=g^n rangle$.



          Now $X$ has the abelian normal subgroup $Y := langle g^G rangle$, which is isomorphic to the additive group of rational numbers that can be written as $a/n^k$ for some $a,k in mathbb Z$. It is not hard to see that any nontrivial quotient of $Y$ is a torsion group, and also that no nontrivial normal subgroup of $X$ can intersect $Y$ trivially. So, since we are assuming that $g$ has infinite order, we have $H cong X$.



          But $X$ is not virtually nilpotent. To see that, show that no subgroup of $X$ of finite index can have trivial centre.






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          It is not possible for an infinite order element $g$ of a virtually nilpotent group to be conjugate to $g^n$ for $n>1$.



          Suppose $t in G$ with $t^-1gt = g^n$. Then the subgroup $H = langle t,g rangle$ of $G$ is isomorphic to a quotient of the solvable Baumslag-Solitar group $X = = langle g,t mid t^-1gt=g^n rangle$.



          Now $X$ has the abelian normal subgroup $Y := langle g^G rangle$, which is isomorphic to the additive group of rational numbers that can be written as $a/n^k$ for some $a,k in mathbb Z$. It is not hard to see that any nontrivial quotient of $Y$ is a torsion group, and also that no nontrivial normal subgroup of $X$ can intersect $Y$ trivially. So, since we are assuming that $g$ has infinite order, we have $H cong X$.



          But $X$ is not virtually nilpotent. To see that, show that no subgroup of $X$ of finite index can have trivial centre.







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              All finite groups are virtually nilpotent, so consider the quaternion group $Q_8$. Then



              $j i j^-1 = j i (-j) = - i j (-j) = -i = i^3$.



              So an element is conjugate to its cube, so the answer to your first question is "Yes".






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                Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
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                You should edit your post to add that assumption.
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              All finite groups are virtually nilpotent, so consider the quaternion group $Q_8$. Then



              $j i j^-1 = j i (-j) = - i j (-j) = -i = i^3$.



              So an element is conjugate to its cube, so the answer to your first question is "Yes".






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                The quaternion group is even nilpotent.
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                Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
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                You should edit your post to add that assumption.
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              All finite groups are virtually nilpotent, so consider the quaternion group $Q_8$. Then



              $j i j^-1 = j i (-j) = - i j (-j) = -i = i^3$.



              So an element is conjugate to its cube, so the answer to your first question is "Yes".






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              All finite groups are virtually nilpotent, so consider the quaternion group $Q_8$. Then



              $j i j^-1 = j i (-j) = - i j (-j) = -i = i^3$.



              So an element is conjugate to its cube, so the answer to your first question is "Yes".







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                The quaternion group is even nilpotent.
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                Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
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                You should edit your post to add that assumption.
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              • $begingroup$
                The quaternion group is even nilpotent.
                $endgroup$
                – Dietrich Burde
                7 hours ago










              • $begingroup$
                Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
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                – QMath
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              • $begingroup$
                You should edit your post to add that assumption.
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              $begingroup$
              The quaternion group is even nilpotent.
              $endgroup$
              – Dietrich Burde
              7 hours ago




              $begingroup$
              The quaternion group is even nilpotent.
              $endgroup$
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              $begingroup$
              Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
              $endgroup$
              – QMath
              7 hours ago




              $begingroup$
              Sorry, I forgot to write this assumption, I am interested in elements of infinite order.
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              $begingroup$
              You should edit your post to add that assumption.
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              $begingroup$
              You should edit your post to add that assumption.
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              $begingroup$

              For a virtually abelian group $G$, the issue can be settled with some Euclidean geometry. The general structural theorem for virtually abelian groups is as follows (this is a summary of the Bieberbach Theorems):




              • $G$ has a unique maximal finite normal subgroup $N < G$,

              • The quotient $G / N$ is a Euclidean crystallographic group, meaning that is has a faithful, discrete, cocompact action (or representation) $G / N mapsto textIsom(mathbbE^n)$ for some $n ge 0$.

              Here I am using $mathbb E^n$ to denote Euclidean $n$-space, i.e. $mathbb R^n$ equipped with the standard metric, and $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ is its group of isometries.



              Let me denote the composed homomorphism
              $$f : G to G/N to textIsom(mathbb E^n)
              $$

              Its image is a discrete group, and it follows that an element of $f(G)$ has finite order if and only if it fixes a point.



              The key facts regarding order of elements are as follows:



              • For each $g in G$, the translation length $L_g$ of the isometry $f(g) : mathbb E^n to mathbb E^n$ is a conjugacy invariant of $g$.


              • $L_g = 0$ $iff$ $f(g)$ has finite order in $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ $iff$ $g$ has finite order in $G$.

              So if $g$ has infinite order then it is a translation with translation length $L_g > 0$, and it follows that $g^n$ is a translation with translation length $n cdot L_g ne L_g$. Since translation length is a conjugacy invariant, $g$ and $g^n$ are not conjugate.




              I suspect there is also a geometric solution to the virtually nilpotent case, as an alternative to the answer of @DerekHolt. In outline, $G$ still has a unique maximal normal subgroup $N$, and $G/N$ embeds as a lattice in a nilpotent Lie group $Gamma$, and I believe that one can then proceed using the geometry of the left invariant metric on $Gamma$.






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                $begingroup$

                For a virtually abelian group $G$, the issue can be settled with some Euclidean geometry. The general structural theorem for virtually abelian groups is as follows (this is a summary of the Bieberbach Theorems):




                • $G$ has a unique maximal finite normal subgroup $N < G$,

                • The quotient $G / N$ is a Euclidean crystallographic group, meaning that is has a faithful, discrete, cocompact action (or representation) $G / N mapsto textIsom(mathbbE^n)$ for some $n ge 0$.

                Here I am using $mathbb E^n$ to denote Euclidean $n$-space, i.e. $mathbb R^n$ equipped with the standard metric, and $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ is its group of isometries.



                Let me denote the composed homomorphism
                $$f : G to G/N to textIsom(mathbb E^n)
                $$

                Its image is a discrete group, and it follows that an element of $f(G)$ has finite order if and only if it fixes a point.



                The key facts regarding order of elements are as follows:



                • For each $g in G$, the translation length $L_g$ of the isometry $f(g) : mathbb E^n to mathbb E^n$ is a conjugacy invariant of $g$.


                • $L_g = 0$ $iff$ $f(g)$ has finite order in $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ $iff$ $g$ has finite order in $G$.

                So if $g$ has infinite order then it is a translation with translation length $L_g > 0$, and it follows that $g^n$ is a translation with translation length $n cdot L_g ne L_g$. Since translation length is a conjugacy invariant, $g$ and $g^n$ are not conjugate.




                I suspect there is also a geometric solution to the virtually nilpotent case, as an alternative to the answer of @DerekHolt. In outline, $G$ still has a unique maximal normal subgroup $N$, and $G/N$ embeds as a lattice in a nilpotent Lie group $Gamma$, and I believe that one can then proceed using the geometry of the left invariant metric on $Gamma$.






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                  For a virtually abelian group $G$, the issue can be settled with some Euclidean geometry. The general structural theorem for virtually abelian groups is as follows (this is a summary of the Bieberbach Theorems):




                  • $G$ has a unique maximal finite normal subgroup $N < G$,

                  • The quotient $G / N$ is a Euclidean crystallographic group, meaning that is has a faithful, discrete, cocompact action (or representation) $G / N mapsto textIsom(mathbbE^n)$ for some $n ge 0$.

                  Here I am using $mathbb E^n$ to denote Euclidean $n$-space, i.e. $mathbb R^n$ equipped with the standard metric, and $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ is its group of isometries.



                  Let me denote the composed homomorphism
                  $$f : G to G/N to textIsom(mathbb E^n)
                  $$

                  Its image is a discrete group, and it follows that an element of $f(G)$ has finite order if and only if it fixes a point.



                  The key facts regarding order of elements are as follows:



                  • For each $g in G$, the translation length $L_g$ of the isometry $f(g) : mathbb E^n to mathbb E^n$ is a conjugacy invariant of $g$.


                  • $L_g = 0$ $iff$ $f(g)$ has finite order in $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ $iff$ $g$ has finite order in $G$.

                  So if $g$ has infinite order then it is a translation with translation length $L_g > 0$, and it follows that $g^n$ is a translation with translation length $n cdot L_g ne L_g$. Since translation length is a conjugacy invariant, $g$ and $g^n$ are not conjugate.




                  I suspect there is also a geometric solution to the virtually nilpotent case, as an alternative to the answer of @DerekHolt. In outline, $G$ still has a unique maximal normal subgroup $N$, and $G/N$ embeds as a lattice in a nilpotent Lie group $Gamma$, and I believe that one can then proceed using the geometry of the left invariant metric on $Gamma$.






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                  For a virtually abelian group $G$, the issue can be settled with some Euclidean geometry. The general structural theorem for virtually abelian groups is as follows (this is a summary of the Bieberbach Theorems):




                  • $G$ has a unique maximal finite normal subgroup $N < G$,

                  • The quotient $G / N$ is a Euclidean crystallographic group, meaning that is has a faithful, discrete, cocompact action (or representation) $G / N mapsto textIsom(mathbbE^n)$ for some $n ge 0$.

                  Here I am using $mathbb E^n$ to denote Euclidean $n$-space, i.e. $mathbb R^n$ equipped with the standard metric, and $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ is its group of isometries.



                  Let me denote the composed homomorphism
                  $$f : G to G/N to textIsom(mathbb E^n)
                  $$

                  Its image is a discrete group, and it follows that an element of $f(G)$ has finite order if and only if it fixes a point.



                  The key facts regarding order of elements are as follows:



                  • For each $g in G$, the translation length $L_g$ of the isometry $f(g) : mathbb E^n to mathbb E^n$ is a conjugacy invariant of $g$.


                  • $L_g = 0$ $iff$ $f(g)$ has finite order in $textIsom(mathbb E^n)$ $iff$ $g$ has finite order in $G$.

                  So if $g$ has infinite order then it is a translation with translation length $L_g > 0$, and it follows that $g^n$ is a translation with translation length $n cdot L_g ne L_g$. Since translation length is a conjugacy invariant, $g$ and $g^n$ are not conjugate.




                  I suspect there is also a geometric solution to the virtually nilpotent case, as an alternative to the answer of @DerekHolt. In outline, $G$ still has a unique maximal normal subgroup $N$, and $G/N$ embeds as a lattice in a nilpotent Lie group $Gamma$, and I believe that one can then proceed using the geometry of the left invariant metric on $Gamma$.







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