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Given $x+frac1x=2 tag1$
$x^3+frac1x^4=1 tag2$



Find the value of $$x^4+frac1x^3$$



If equation $bf2$ is multiplied by $bf x$ we get $x^4+frac1x^3=x$ now, we just need to find the value of $x$ which from $bf1$ is equal to $1$.
But the answer to this question is $bf3$.
Which can be get by solving differently. Why my method is wrong is it because I am introducing new root into the equation.



Another approach
Given, $(x + 1/x) = 2$



Squaring both sides,



$$x^2 + 1/x^2 + 2 = 4$$



$$ x^2 + 1/x^2 = 2 $$



Let,



$A = x^3 + 1/x^4$



$B = x^4 + 1/x^3$



Now, add A and B,



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^4 + x^4 + 1/x^3$



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^3 + x^4 + 1/x^4$



$A + B = (x + 1/x)(x^2 + 1/x^2 – 1) + (x^2)2 + (1/x^2)2 + 2 – 2$



$A + B = 2(2 – 1) + (x^2 + 1/x^2)2 – 2 $



$A + B = 2 + (2)2 – 2$



$ A + B = 4$



Given that $A = 1$



Then, $B = 4 – 1 = 3$



$ x^4 + 1/x^3 = 3$










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$begingroup$


Given $x+frac1x=2 tag1$
$x^3+frac1x^4=1 tag2$



Find the value of $$x^4+frac1x^3$$



If equation $bf2$ is multiplied by $bf x$ we get $x^4+frac1x^3=x$ now, we just need to find the value of $x$ which from $bf1$ is equal to $1$.
But the answer to this question is $bf3$.
Which can be get by solving differently. Why my method is wrong is it because I am introducing new root into the equation.



Another approach
Given, $(x + 1/x) = 2$



Squaring both sides,



$$x^2 + 1/x^2 + 2 = 4$$



$$ x^2 + 1/x^2 = 2 $$



Let,



$A = x^3 + 1/x^4$



$B = x^4 + 1/x^3$



Now, add A and B,



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^4 + x^4 + 1/x^3$



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^3 + x^4 + 1/x^4$



$A + B = (x + 1/x)(x^2 + 1/x^2 – 1) + (x^2)2 + (1/x^2)2 + 2 – 2$



$A + B = 2(2 – 1) + (x^2 + 1/x^2)2 – 2 $



$A + B = 2 + (2)2 – 2$



$ A + B = 4$



Given that $A = 1$



Then, $B = 4 – 1 = 3$



$ x^4 + 1/x^3 = 3$










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$begingroup$


Given $x+frac1x=2 tag1$
$x^3+frac1x^4=1 tag2$



Find the value of $$x^4+frac1x^3$$



If equation $bf2$ is multiplied by $bf x$ we get $x^4+frac1x^3=x$ now, we just need to find the value of $x$ which from $bf1$ is equal to $1$.
But the answer to this question is $bf3$.
Which can be get by solving differently. Why my method is wrong is it because I am introducing new root into the equation.



Another approach
Given, $(x + 1/x) = 2$



Squaring both sides,



$$x^2 + 1/x^2 + 2 = 4$$



$$ x^2 + 1/x^2 = 2 $$



Let,



$A = x^3 + 1/x^4$



$B = x^4 + 1/x^3$



Now, add A and B,



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^4 + x^4 + 1/x^3$



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^3 + x^4 + 1/x^4$



$A + B = (x + 1/x)(x^2 + 1/x^2 – 1) + (x^2)2 + (1/x^2)2 + 2 – 2$



$A + B = 2(2 – 1) + (x^2 + 1/x^2)2 – 2 $



$A + B = 2 + (2)2 – 2$



$ A + B = 4$



Given that $A = 1$



Then, $B = 4 – 1 = 3$



$ x^4 + 1/x^3 = 3$










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Given $x+frac1x=2 tag1$
$x^3+frac1x^4=1 tag2$



Find the value of $$x^4+frac1x^3$$



If equation $bf2$ is multiplied by $bf x$ we get $x^4+frac1x^3=x$ now, we just need to find the value of $x$ which from $bf1$ is equal to $1$.
But the answer to this question is $bf3$.
Which can be get by solving differently. Why my method is wrong is it because I am introducing new root into the equation.



Another approach
Given, $(x + 1/x) = 2$



Squaring both sides,



$$x^2 + 1/x^2 + 2 = 4$$



$$ x^2 + 1/x^2 = 2 $$



Let,



$A = x^3 + 1/x^4$



$B = x^4 + 1/x^3$



Now, add A and B,



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^4 + x^4 + 1/x^3$



$A + B = x^3 + 1/x^3 + x^4 + 1/x^4$



$A + B = (x + 1/x)(x^2 + 1/x^2 – 1) + (x^2)2 + (1/x^2)2 + 2 – 2$



$A + B = 2(2 – 1) + (x^2 + 1/x^2)2 – 2 $



$A + B = 2 + (2)2 – 2$



$ A + B = 4$



Given that $A = 1$



Then, $B = 4 – 1 = 3$



$ x^4 + 1/x^3 = 3$







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