Could a person damage a jet airliner - from the outside - with their bare hands?
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Could a person damage a jet airliner - from the outside - with their bare hands?
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Given just a small hammer, I'm pretty sure I could disable a large airliner with a few well-placed blows.
What about with my bare hands?
In other words, are there any parts of a large aeroplane that are:
- exposed
- delicate enough that they could be damaged without using tools
- critical to the plane's operation?
The only think I can think of are the pitot tubes and angle of attack sensors.
(Throwing oneself into the engines while they are idling does not count.)
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edited 7 hours ago
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Given just a small hammer, I'm pretty sure I could disable a large airliner with a few well-placed blows.
What about with my bare hands?
In other words, are there any parts of a large aeroplane that are:
- exposed
- delicate enough that they could be damaged without using tools
- critical to the plane's operation?
The only think I can think of are the pitot tubes and angle of attack sensors.
(Throwing oneself into the engines while they are idling does not count.)
damage
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
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Well, there are markings on wings of where not to walk, so possibly applying your full body weight, plus jumping, on the aileron, flaps, or elevators?
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– zymhan
6 hours ago
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People have done it by throwing coins into engines as they boarded if that counts... The engines were off at the time.
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– Ron Beyer
6 hours ago
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Do you mean elaborate sabotage or a punch to the skin (the latter being impact strength)? I understand the question as the latter.
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– ymb1
5 hours ago
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Could a strong person bend a fan blade on a non-running engine by hand?
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– pericynthion
3 hours ago
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@pericynthion Never say never, so depending on the motor, somebody strong enough going at it long enough, might. But for most modern jet engines, it probably wouldn't be quick or easy. Fan blades are pretty tough.
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– Ralph J
3 hours ago
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Given just a small hammer, I'm pretty sure I could disable a large airliner with a few well-placed blows.
What about with my bare hands?
In other words, are there any parts of a large aeroplane that are:
- exposed
- delicate enough that they could be damaged without using tools
- critical to the plane's operation?
The only think I can think of are the pitot tubes and angle of attack sensors.
(Throwing oneself into the engines while they are idling does not count.)
damage
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
$endgroup$
Given just a small hammer, I'm pretty sure I could disable a large airliner with a few well-placed blows.
What about with my bare hands?
In other words, are there any parts of a large aeroplane that are:
- exposed
- delicate enough that they could be damaged without using tools
- critical to the plane's operation?
The only think I can think of are the pitot tubes and angle of attack sensors.
(Throwing oneself into the engines while they are idling does not count.)
damage
damage
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
edited 7 hours ago
Pondlife
53.5k10148306
53.5k10148306
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
asked 8 hours ago
Daniele ProcidaDaniele Procida
7,1952865
7,1952865
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Well, there are markings on wings of where not to walk, so possibly applying your full body weight, plus jumping, on the aileron, flaps, or elevators?
$endgroup$
– zymhan
6 hours ago
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People have done it by throwing coins into engines as they boarded if that counts... The engines were off at the time.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
6 hours ago
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Do you mean elaborate sabotage or a punch to the skin (the latter being impact strength)? I understand the question as the latter.
$endgroup$
– ymb1
5 hours ago
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Could a strong person bend a fan blade on a non-running engine by hand?
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– pericynthion
3 hours ago
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@pericynthion Never say never, so depending on the motor, somebody strong enough going at it long enough, might. But for most modern jet engines, it probably wouldn't be quick or easy. Fan blades are pretty tough.
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– Ralph J
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Well, there are markings on wings of where not to walk, so possibly applying your full body weight, plus jumping, on the aileron, flaps, or elevators?
$endgroup$
– zymhan
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
People have done it by throwing coins into engines as they boarded if that counts... The engines were off at the time.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Do you mean elaborate sabotage or a punch to the skin (the latter being impact strength)? I understand the question as the latter.
$endgroup$
– ymb1
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Could a strong person bend a fan blade on a non-running engine by hand?
$endgroup$
– pericynthion
3 hours ago
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@pericynthion Never say never, so depending on the motor, somebody strong enough going at it long enough, might. But for most modern jet engines, it probably wouldn't be quick or easy. Fan blades are pretty tough.
$endgroup$
– Ralph J
3 hours ago
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Well, there are markings on wings of where not to walk, so possibly applying your full body weight, plus jumping, on the aileron, flaps, or elevators?
$endgroup$
– zymhan
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Well, there are markings on wings of where not to walk, so possibly applying your full body weight, plus jumping, on the aileron, flaps, or elevators?
$endgroup$
– zymhan
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
People have done it by throwing coins into engines as they boarded if that counts... The engines were off at the time.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
People have done it by throwing coins into engines as they boarded if that counts... The engines were off at the time.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Do you mean elaborate sabotage or a punch to the skin (the latter being impact strength)? I understand the question as the latter.
$endgroup$
– ymb1
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Do you mean elaborate sabotage or a punch to the skin (the latter being impact strength)? I understand the question as the latter.
$endgroup$
– ymb1
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Could a strong person bend a fan blade on a non-running engine by hand?
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– pericynthion
3 hours ago
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Could a strong person bend a fan blade on a non-running engine by hand?
$endgroup$
– pericynthion
3 hours ago
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@pericynthion Never say never, so depending on the motor, somebody strong enough going at it long enough, might. But for most modern jet engines, it probably wouldn't be quick or easy. Fan blades are pretty tough.
$endgroup$
– Ralph J
3 hours ago
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@pericynthion Never say never, so depending on the motor, somebody strong enough going at it long enough, might. But for most modern jet engines, it probably wouldn't be quick or easy. Fan blades are pretty tough.
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– Ralph J
3 hours ago
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Yes, a few possibilities...
1) brake hydraulic and electrical sensor lines located on some landing gear.
2) Putting foreign objects under or between the rotors of brake pads
3) covering pitot system sensor holes
4) pressing or hitting the pitot tube (on most airliners you will need a ladder)
5) letting air or hydraulic fluid out - under inflating tires or cylinders
6) bending or mis-adjusting bellcranks/control arms or changing the linkage geometry.
7) damaging fuel vents
I am not sure of what your definition of "exposed" is but most airliners allow the E&E (electrical & equipment) bay usually located above or behind the nose gear and gear doors to be opened and closed from external control panels for ground crews. This allows access to most the computers, batteries and thousands of wire bundles. It may aslo give acces to lines, cables, pumps, switches, and sensors.
Opening the gear doors of some airlines exposes the air-packs, generators, converters and aux turbine with it's associated mechanisms. Maintenance and inspection panels, engine cowls and fuel distribution panels expose or control critical systems.
answered 5 hours ago
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I expect blade antennas could be damaged with a good blow (or several) from the side. Any number of wire bundles & hydraulic lines in the wheel well could probably be damaged with enough determined yanking on them. Or disconnecting the cannon plugs - although without further damage, that by itself could be reconnected.
answered 3 hours ago
Ralph JRalph J
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Yes, a few possibilities...
1) brake hydraulic and electrical sensor lines located on some landing gear.
2) Putting foreign objects under or between the rotors of brake pads
3) covering pitot system sensor holes
4) pressing or hitting the pitot tube (on most airliners you will need a ladder)
5) letting air or hydraulic fluid out - under inflating tires or cylinders
6) bending or mis-adjusting bellcranks/control arms or changing the linkage geometry.
7) damaging fuel vents
I am not sure of what your definition of "exposed" is but most airliners allow the E&E (electrical & equipment) bay usually located above or behind the nose gear and gear doors to be opened and closed from external control panels for ground crews. This allows access to most the computers, batteries and thousands of wire bundles. It may aslo give acces to lines, cables, pumps, switches, and sensors.
Opening the gear doors of some airlines exposes the air-packs, generators, converters and aux turbine with it's associated mechanisms. Maintenance and inspection panels, engine cowls and fuel distribution panels expose or control critical systems.
answered 5 hours ago
jwzumwaltjwzumwalt
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Yes, a few possibilities...
1) brake hydraulic and electrical sensor lines located on some landing gear.
2) Putting foreign objects under or between the rotors of brake pads
3) covering pitot system sensor holes
4) pressing or hitting the pitot tube (on most airliners you will need a ladder)
5) letting air or hydraulic fluid out - under inflating tires or cylinders
6) bending or mis-adjusting bellcranks/control arms or changing the linkage geometry.
7) damaging fuel vents
I am not sure of what your definition of "exposed" is but most airliners allow the E&E (electrical & equipment) bay usually located above or behind the nose gear and gear doors to be opened and closed from external control panels for ground crews. This allows access to most the computers, batteries and thousands of wire bundles. It may aslo give acces to lines, cables, pumps, switches, and sensors.
Opening the gear doors of some airlines exposes the air-packs, generators, converters and aux turbine with it's associated mechanisms. Maintenance and inspection panels, engine cowls and fuel distribution panels expose or control critical systems.
answered 5 hours ago
jwzumwaltjwzumwalt
7,58422972
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Yes, a few possibilities...
1) brake hydraulic and electrical sensor lines located on some landing gear.
2) Putting foreign objects under or between the rotors of brake pads
3) covering pitot system sensor holes
4) pressing or hitting the pitot tube (on most airliners you will need a ladder)
5) letting air or hydraulic fluid out - under inflating tires or cylinders
6) bending or mis-adjusting bellcranks/control arms or changing the linkage geometry.
7) damaging fuel vents
I am not sure of what your definition of "exposed" is but most airliners allow the E&E (electrical & equipment) bay usually located above or behind the nose gear and gear doors to be opened and closed from external control panels for ground crews. This allows access to most the computers, batteries and thousands of wire bundles. It may aslo give acces to lines, cables, pumps, switches, and sensors.
Opening the gear doors of some airlines exposes the air-packs, generators, converters and aux turbine with it's associated mechanisms. Maintenance and inspection panels, engine cowls and fuel distribution panels expose or control critical systems.
answered 5 hours ago
jwzumwaltjwzumwalt
7,58422972
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Yes, a few possibilities...
1) brake hydraulic and electrical sensor lines located on some landing gear.
2) Putting foreign objects under or between the rotors of brake pads
3) covering pitot system sensor holes
4) pressing or hitting the pitot tube (on most airliners you will need a ladder)
5) letting air or hydraulic fluid out - under inflating tires or cylinders
6) bending or mis-adjusting bellcranks/control arms or changing the linkage geometry.
7) damaging fuel vents
I am not sure of what your definition of "exposed" is but most airliners allow the E&E (electrical & equipment) bay usually located above or behind the nose gear and gear doors to be opened and closed from external control panels for ground crews. This allows access to most the computers, batteries and thousands of wire bundles. It may aslo give acces to lines, cables, pumps, switches, and sensors.
Opening the gear doors of some airlines exposes the air-packs, generators, converters and aux turbine with it's associated mechanisms. Maintenance and inspection panels, engine cowls and fuel distribution panels expose or control critical systems.
answered 5 hours ago
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I expect blade antennas could be damaged with a good blow (or several) from the side. Any number of wire bundles & hydraulic lines in the wheel well could probably be damaged with enough determined yanking on them. Or disconnecting the cannon plugs - although without further damage, that by itself could be reconnected.
answered 3 hours ago
Ralph JRalph J
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I expect blade antennas could be damaged with a good blow (or several) from the side. Any number of wire bundles & hydraulic lines in the wheel well could probably be damaged with enough determined yanking on them. Or disconnecting the cannon plugs - although without further damage, that by itself could be reconnected.
answered 3 hours ago
Ralph JRalph J
29.2k992151
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$begingroup$
I expect blade antennas could be damaged with a good blow (or several) from the side. Any number of wire bundles & hydraulic lines in the wheel well could probably be damaged with enough determined yanking on them. Or disconnecting the cannon plugs - although without further damage, that by itself could be reconnected.
answered 3 hours ago
Ralph JRalph J
29.2k992151
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I expect blade antennas could be damaged with a good blow (or several) from the side. Any number of wire bundles & hydraulic lines in the wheel well could probably be damaged with enough determined yanking on them. Or disconnecting the cannon plugs - although without further damage, that by itself could be reconnected.
answered 3 hours ago
Ralph JRalph J
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answered 3 hours ago
Ralph JRalph J
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Well, there are markings on wings of where not to walk, so possibly applying your full body weight, plus jumping, on the aileron, flaps, or elevators?
$endgroup$
– zymhan
6 hours ago
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People have done it by throwing coins into engines as they boarded if that counts... The engines were off at the time.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
6 hours ago
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Do you mean elaborate sabotage or a punch to the skin (the latter being impact strength)? I understand the question as the latter.
$endgroup$
– ymb1
5 hours ago
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Could a strong person bend a fan blade on a non-running engine by hand?
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– pericynthion
3 hours ago
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@pericynthion Never say never, so depending on the motor, somebody strong enough going at it long enough, might. But for most modern jet engines, it probably wouldn't be quick or easy. Fan blades are pretty tough.
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– Ralph J
3 hours ago