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What do you call something that goes against the spirit of the law, but is legal when interpreting the law to the letter?
“Misuse” vs. “Abuse”Meaning of 'by' in 'promise by which'How to analyse/parse an incomplete 'if, [independent clause]'?Does 'in the promisee’s position' harm the promisee or promisor?Please explain 'confer an equitable right on B to compel fulfilment of the promise'?Grammaticality - 'order their affairs safe'My shoes 'make a funny sound' when I walkWhat is the proper word in the mentioned sentence?What do you call someone who is focused too much on the technicalities of a law rather than the big picture?Doing something right before you need it - expression for this?
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Sometimes, the wording of a law or contract is vague and imprecise, and it allows people to abuse it, but doing so goes against the spirit of the law or the contract when it was written, or in other words the intention the people who wrote the law or contract. Is there a word for this?
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Sometimes, the wording of a law or contract is vague and imprecise, and it allows people to abuse it, but doing so goes against the spirit of the law or the contract when it was written, or in other words the intention the people who wrote the law or contract. Is there a word for this?
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I'm not aware of any such word, not least because there are many different ways that the situation you describe could arise. So "loophole", as @Jasper suggests, may work in some situations, but not others. But in a very real and practical way, I suspect that if you asked a lawyer about this situation, they would say that the word for something that goes against the spirit of the law, while still being legal, is "legal"! In other words, they would advise that we don't get distracted by such notions as "spirit" vs "letter". The WHOLE POINT of the law is to turn spirit into letter.
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Sometimes, the wording of a law or contract is vague and imprecise, and it allows people to abuse it, but doing so goes against the spirit of the law or the contract when it was written, or in other words the intention the people who wrote the law or contract. Is there a word for this?
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Sometimes, the wording of a law or contract is vague and imprecise, and it allows people to abuse it, but doing so goes against the spirit of the law or the contract when it was written, or in other words the intention the people who wrote the law or contract. Is there a word for this?
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I'm not aware of any such word, not least because there are many different ways that the situation you describe could arise. So "loophole", as @Jasper suggests, may work in some situations, but not others. But in a very real and practical way, I suspect that if you asked a lawyer about this situation, they would say that the word for something that goes against the spirit of the law, while still being legal, is "legal"! In other words, they would advise that we don't get distracted by such notions as "spirit" vs "letter". The WHOLE POINT of the law is to turn spirit into letter.
– tkp
12 hours ago
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@tkp -- Your comment would make a good answer.
– Jasper
7 hours ago
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I'm not aware of any such word, not least because there are many different ways that the situation you describe could arise. So "loophole", as @Jasper suggests, may work in some situations, but not others. But in a very real and practical way, I suspect that if you asked a lawyer about this situation, they would say that the word for something that goes against the spirit of the law, while still being legal, is "legal"! In other words, they would advise that we don't get distracted by such notions as "spirit" vs "letter". The WHOLE POINT of the law is to turn spirit into letter.
– tkp
12 hours ago
1
@tkp -- Your comment would make a good answer.
– Jasper
7 hours ago
1
1
I'm not aware of any such word, not least because there are many different ways that the situation you describe could arise. So "loophole", as @Jasper suggests, may work in some situations, but not others. But in a very real and practical way, I suspect that if you asked a lawyer about this situation, they would say that the word for something that goes against the spirit of the law, while still being legal, is "legal"! In other words, they would advise that we don't get distracted by such notions as "spirit" vs "letter". The WHOLE POINT of the law is to turn spirit into letter.
– tkp
12 hours ago
I'm not aware of any such word, not least because there are many different ways that the situation you describe could arise. So "loophole", as @Jasper suggests, may work in some situations, but not others. But in a very real and practical way, I suspect that if you asked a lawyer about this situation, they would say that the word for something that goes against the spirit of the law, while still being legal, is "legal"! In other words, they would advise that we don't get distracted by such notions as "spirit" vs "letter". The WHOLE POINT of the law is to turn spirit into letter.
– tkp
12 hours ago
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@tkp -- Your comment would make a good answer.
– Jasper
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@tkp -- Your comment would make a good answer.
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This is known as a loophole.
There is a principle in American jurisprudence that if a law is too vague, it is not valid. Similarly, if a contract allows more than one reasonable interpretation, the party who wrote the contract does not get to decide which interpretation(s) will be used. Instead, the other party gets to choose.
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And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
1
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
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I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
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Jasper's suggestion of "loophole" is excellent, but you may also hear this situation arising from unintended wording referred to as "a technicality".
youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
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This is known as a loophole.
There is a principle in American jurisprudence that if a law is too vague, it is not valid. Similarly, if a contract allows more than one reasonable interpretation, the party who wrote the contract does not get to decide which interpretation(s) will be used. Instead, the other party gets to choose.
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And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
1
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
1
I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
add a comment |
This is known as a loophole.
There is a principle in American jurisprudence that if a law is too vague, it is not valid. Similarly, if a contract allows more than one reasonable interpretation, the party who wrote the contract does not get to decide which interpretation(s) will be used. Instead, the other party gets to choose.
1
And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
1
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
1
I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
add a comment |
This is known as a loophole.
There is a principle in American jurisprudence that if a law is too vague, it is not valid. Similarly, if a contract allows more than one reasonable interpretation, the party who wrote the contract does not get to decide which interpretation(s) will be used. Instead, the other party gets to choose.
This is known as a loophole.
There is a principle in American jurisprudence that if a law is too vague, it is not valid. Similarly, if a contract allows more than one reasonable interpretation, the party who wrote the contract does not get to decide which interpretation(s) will be used. Instead, the other party gets to choose.
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And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
1
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
1
I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
add a comment |
1
And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
1
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
1
I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
1
1
And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
And in France please?
– JarsOfJam-Scheduler
12 hours ago
1
1
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
Tony Coehlo wrote the Americans With Disabilities Act. He was an epileptic, and he wrote the act to protect epileptics. A few years after the law was passed, a court ruled that epileptics whose condition was controlled by drugs were not protected by the law. He was quoted as saying that he "was written out of [his] own bill." Can anyone find a citation for this quote?
– Jasper
7 hours ago
1
1
I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
I think there is no chosing involved, the interpretation that disadvantages the writer is used afaik.
– technical_difficulty
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Jasper's suggestion of "loophole" is excellent, but you may also hear this situation arising from unintended wording referred to as "a technicality".
youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Jasper's suggestion of "loophole" is excellent, but you may also hear this situation arising from unintended wording referred to as "a technicality".
youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
|
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Jasper's suggestion of "loophole" is excellent, but you may also hear this situation arising from unintended wording referred to as "a technicality".
Jasper's suggestion of "loophole" is excellent, but you may also hear this situation arising from unintended wording referred to as "a technicality".
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youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
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youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
– Infiltrator
6 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
To me "technicality" implies something quite different: it implies that the reason is procedural rather than material. For example, if you commit a crime (violating both the letter and the spirit of the law), but the evidence that the police find is in an area that they didn't actually get a search warrant for, then the evidence might get thrown out, and so you might get "off on a technicality".
– ruakh
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@ruakh: I think there's considerable overlap -- yours is a good example of where two goals of the law come into conflict. There are also examples of technicalities which are loopholes. For example, a requirement to do something in two successive months, intending that a subscription or account should be maintained for an entire intervening month, but technically it may be possible to do the action on March 31st and April 1st.
– Ben Voigt
3 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@BenVoigt : I think your use of "technically" in your comment is a better fit than "technicality" in your answer. An action may be technically legal or technically compliant with the terms of a contract, because, of course, technically correct is the best kind of correct. I don't know of a usage of technicality for these positive constructions -- typically a technicality is a reason for a negative construction: "not found in breach due to a technicality", "not found guilty due to a technicality".
– Eric Towers
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
@EricTowers: The example in my comment meets the criteria of "following the letter but not the spirit (of the law or contract)", don't you think? As far as "technically correct is the best kind of correct", here's an interesting case where the bank did not think so, and voided promotions on the basis of "their intent": doctorofcredit.com/capital-one-500-money-market-account-bonus
– Ben Voigt
2 hours ago
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I'm not aware of any such word, not least because there are many different ways that the situation you describe could arise. So "loophole", as @Jasper suggests, may work in some situations, but not others. But in a very real and practical way, I suspect that if you asked a lawyer about this situation, they would say that the word for something that goes against the spirit of the law, while still being legal, is "legal"! In other words, they would advise that we don't get distracted by such notions as "spirit" vs "letter". The WHOLE POINT of the law is to turn spirit into letter.
– tkp
12 hours ago
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@tkp -- Your comment would make a good answer.
– Jasper
7 hours ago