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class Foo
public static int x = 1;

public static void main(String[] args)
Foo foo;
System.out.println(foo.x); // Error: Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized




While trying to access x via an uninitialized local variable Foo foo; I get the compile error Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized.



It could seem like this error makes sense, but only until we realize that to access a static member the compiler doesn't use the value of a variable, but only its type.



For instance I can initialize foo with value null and this will let us access x without any problems:



Foo foo = null;
System.out.println(foo.x);//Now it works!!!


Such scenario works because compiler realizes that x is static and treats foo.x as it was written Foo.x (at least that is what I thought until now).



So why compiler suddenly insists on foo having a value which it will NOT use at that place?



(Disclaimer: This is not code which would be used in real application, just interesting phenomenon which I couldn't find answer to on Stack Overflow so I decided to ask about it.)










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    I'd say a limitation in the compiler that isn't really worth fixing, given that the code raises a warning anyway.

    – manouti
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @manouti That is also my guess, but I am still interested in why compiler behaves that way. Which part of specification forces it?

    – Pshemo
    8 hours ago











  • I think the compiler is less concerned with initialization (even though that is the warning) as it is with the null pointer exception you are creating. The reference to the initialization is the compiler trying to give reason to why you may have a potential null pointer exception.

    – portfoliobuilder
    7 hours ago






  • 2





    @portfoliobuilder There is no risk of NPE here since as mentioned in question, in case of accessing static member compiler doesn't use value of variable but its type. We can even write ((Foo)null).x and this will compile and work because compiler will recognize that x is static (unless I misunderstood your comment).

    – Pshemo
    7 hours ago







  • 3





    Accessing a static variable from a non-static context (such as foo.x) should have been a compiler error when Java was first created. Sadly, that ship sailed over 25 years ago and would be a breaking change if they changed it now.

    – Powerlord
    7 hours ago


















8















class Foo
public static int x = 1;

public static void main(String[] args)
Foo foo;
System.out.println(foo.x); // Error: Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized




While trying to access x via an uninitialized local variable Foo foo; I get the compile error Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized.



It could seem like this error makes sense, but only until we realize that to access a static member the compiler doesn't use the value of a variable, but only its type.



For instance I can initialize foo with value null and this will let us access x without any problems:



Foo foo = null;
System.out.println(foo.x);//Now it works!!!


Such scenario works because compiler realizes that x is static and treats foo.x as it was written Foo.x (at least that is what I thought until now).



So why compiler suddenly insists on foo having a value which it will NOT use at that place?



(Disclaimer: This is not code which would be used in real application, just interesting phenomenon which I couldn't find answer to on Stack Overflow so I decided to ask about it.)










share|improve this question





















  • 2





    I'd say a limitation in the compiler that isn't really worth fixing, given that the code raises a warning anyway.

    – manouti
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @manouti That is also my guess, but I am still interested in why compiler behaves that way. Which part of specification forces it?

    – Pshemo
    8 hours ago











  • I think the compiler is less concerned with initialization (even though that is the warning) as it is with the null pointer exception you are creating. The reference to the initialization is the compiler trying to give reason to why you may have a potential null pointer exception.

    – portfoliobuilder
    7 hours ago






  • 2





    @portfoliobuilder There is no risk of NPE here since as mentioned in question, in case of accessing static member compiler doesn't use value of variable but its type. We can even write ((Foo)null).x and this will compile and work because compiler will recognize that x is static (unless I misunderstood your comment).

    – Pshemo
    7 hours ago







  • 3





    Accessing a static variable from a non-static context (such as foo.x) should have been a compiler error when Java was first created. Sadly, that ship sailed over 25 years ago and would be a breaking change if they changed it now.

    – Powerlord
    7 hours ago














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8








8








class Foo
public static int x = 1;

public static void main(String[] args)
Foo foo;
System.out.println(foo.x); // Error: Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized




While trying to access x via an uninitialized local variable Foo foo; I get the compile error Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized.



It could seem like this error makes sense, but only until we realize that to access a static member the compiler doesn't use the value of a variable, but only its type.



For instance I can initialize foo with value null and this will let us access x without any problems:



Foo foo = null;
System.out.println(foo.x);//Now it works!!!


Such scenario works because compiler realizes that x is static and treats foo.x as it was written Foo.x (at least that is what I thought until now).



So why compiler suddenly insists on foo having a value which it will NOT use at that place?



(Disclaimer: This is not code which would be used in real application, just interesting phenomenon which I couldn't find answer to on Stack Overflow so I decided to ask about it.)










share|improve this question
















class Foo
public static int x = 1;

public static void main(String[] args)
Foo foo;
System.out.println(foo.x); // Error: Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized




While trying to access x via an uninitialized local variable Foo foo; I get the compile error Variable 'foo' might not have been initialized.



It could seem like this error makes sense, but only until we realize that to access a static member the compiler doesn't use the value of a variable, but only its type.



For instance I can initialize foo with value null and this will let us access x without any problems:



Foo foo = null;
System.out.println(foo.x);//Now it works!!!


Such scenario works because compiler realizes that x is static and treats foo.x as it was written Foo.x (at least that is what I thought until now).



So why compiler suddenly insists on foo having a value which it will NOT use at that place?



(Disclaimer: This is not code which would be used in real application, just interesting phenomenon which I couldn't find answer to on Stack Overflow so I decided to ask about it.)







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    I'd say a limitation in the compiler that isn't really worth fixing, given that the code raises a warning anyway.

    – manouti
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @manouti That is also my guess, but I am still interested in why compiler behaves that way. Which part of specification forces it?

    – Pshemo
    8 hours ago











  • I think the compiler is less concerned with initialization (even though that is the warning) as it is with the null pointer exception you are creating. The reference to the initialization is the compiler trying to give reason to why you may have a potential null pointer exception.

    – portfoliobuilder
    7 hours ago






  • 2





    @portfoliobuilder There is no risk of NPE here since as mentioned in question, in case of accessing static member compiler doesn't use value of variable but its type. We can even write ((Foo)null).x and this will compile and work because compiler will recognize that x is static (unless I misunderstood your comment).

    – Pshemo
    7 hours ago







  • 3





    Accessing a static variable from a non-static context (such as foo.x) should have been a compiler error when Java was first created. Sadly, that ship sailed over 25 years ago and would be a breaking change if they changed it now.

    – Powerlord
    7 hours ago













  • 2





    I'd say a limitation in the compiler that isn't really worth fixing, given that the code raises a warning anyway.

    – manouti
    8 hours ago






  • 1





    @manouti That is also my guess, but I am still interested in why compiler behaves that way. Which part of specification forces it?

    – Pshemo
    8 hours ago











  • I think the compiler is less concerned with initialization (even though that is the warning) as it is with the null pointer exception you are creating. The reference to the initialization is the compiler trying to give reason to why you may have a potential null pointer exception.

    – portfoliobuilder
    7 hours ago






  • 2





    @portfoliobuilder There is no risk of NPE here since as mentioned in question, in case of accessing static member compiler doesn't use value of variable but its type. We can even write ((Foo)null).x and this will compile and work because compiler will recognize that x is static (unless I misunderstood your comment).

    – Pshemo
    7 hours ago







  • 3





    Accessing a static variable from a non-static context (such as foo.x) should have been a compiler error when Java was first created. Sadly, that ship sailed over 25 years ago and would be a breaking change if they changed it now.

    – Powerlord
    7 hours ago








2




2





I'd say a limitation in the compiler that isn't really worth fixing, given that the code raises a warning anyway.

– manouti
8 hours ago





I'd say a limitation in the compiler that isn't really worth fixing, given that the code raises a warning anyway.

– manouti
8 hours ago




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1





@manouti That is also my guess, but I am still interested in why compiler behaves that way. Which part of specification forces it?

– Pshemo
8 hours ago





@manouti That is also my guess, but I am still interested in why compiler behaves that way. Which part of specification forces it?

– Pshemo
8 hours ago













I think the compiler is less concerned with initialization (even though that is the warning) as it is with the null pointer exception you are creating. The reference to the initialization is the compiler trying to give reason to why you may have a potential null pointer exception.

– portfoliobuilder
7 hours ago





I think the compiler is less concerned with initialization (even though that is the warning) as it is with the null pointer exception you are creating. The reference to the initialization is the compiler trying to give reason to why you may have a potential null pointer exception.

– portfoliobuilder
7 hours ago




2




2





@portfoliobuilder There is no risk of NPE here since as mentioned in question, in case of accessing static member compiler doesn't use value of variable but its type. We can even write ((Foo)null).x and this will compile and work because compiler will recognize that x is static (unless I misunderstood your comment).

– Pshemo
7 hours ago






@portfoliobuilder There is no risk of NPE here since as mentioned in question, in case of accessing static member compiler doesn't use value of variable but its type. We can even write ((Foo)null).x and this will compile and work because compiler will recognize that x is static (unless I misunderstood your comment).

– Pshemo
7 hours ago





3




3





Accessing a static variable from a non-static context (such as foo.x) should have been a compiler error when Java was first created. Sadly, that ship sailed over 25 years ago and would be a breaking change if they changed it now.

– Powerlord
7 hours ago






Accessing a static variable from a non-static context (such as foo.x) should have been a compiler error when Java was first created. Sadly, that ship sailed over 25 years ago and would be a breaking change if they changed it now.

– Powerlord
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§15.11. Field Access Expressions:




If the field is static:




The Primary expression is evaluated, and the result is discarded. If evaluation of the Primary expression completes abruptly, the field access expression completes abruptly for the same reason.





Where earlier it states that field access is identified by Primary.Identifier.



This shows that even though it seems to not use the Primary, it is still evaluated and the result is then discarded which is why it will need to be initialized. This can make a difference when the evaluation halts the access as stated in the quote.






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    Chapter 16. Definite Assignment



    Each local variable (§14.4) and every blank final field (§4.12.4, §8.3.1.2) must have a definitely assigned value when any access of its value occurs.




    It doesn't really matter what you try to access via a local variable. The rule is that it should be definitely assigned before that.



    To evaluate a field access expression foo.x, the primary part of it (foo) must be evaluated first. It means that access to foo will occur, which will result in a compile-time error.




    For every access of a local variable or blank final field x, x must be definitely assigned before the access, or a compile-time error occurs.







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    • I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

      – Pshemo
      7 hours ago











    • Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

      – Pshemo
      5 hours ago












    • @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

      – Andrew Tobilko
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    There is value in keeping the rules as simple as possible, and “don’t use a variable that might not have been initialised” is as simple as it gets.



    More to the point, there is an established way of calling static methods - always use the class name, not a variable.



    System.out.println(Foo.x);


    The variable “foo” is unwanted overhead that should be removed, and the compiler errors and warnings could be seen as helping leading towards that.






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      §15.11. Field Access Expressions:




      If the field is static:




      The Primary expression is evaluated, and the result is discarded. If evaluation of the Primary expression completes abruptly, the field access expression completes abruptly for the same reason.





      Where earlier it states that field access is identified by Primary.Identifier.



      This shows that even though it seems to not use the Primary, it is still evaluated and the result is then discarded which is why it will need to be initialized. This can make a difference when the evaluation halts the access as stated in the quote.






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        §15.11. Field Access Expressions:




        If the field is static:




        The Primary expression is evaluated, and the result is discarded. If evaluation of the Primary expression completes abruptly, the field access expression completes abruptly for the same reason.





        Where earlier it states that field access is identified by Primary.Identifier.



        This shows that even though it seems to not use the Primary, it is still evaluated and the result is then discarded which is why it will need to be initialized. This can make a difference when the evaluation halts the access as stated in the quote.






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          §15.11. Field Access Expressions:




          If the field is static:




          The Primary expression is evaluated, and the result is discarded. If evaluation of the Primary expression completes abruptly, the field access expression completes abruptly for the same reason.





          Where earlier it states that field access is identified by Primary.Identifier.



          This shows that even though it seems to not use the Primary, it is still evaluated and the result is then discarded which is why it will need to be initialized. This can make a difference when the evaluation halts the access as stated in the quote.






          share|improve this answer













          §15.11. Field Access Expressions:




          If the field is static:




          The Primary expression is evaluated, and the result is discarded. If evaluation of the Primary expression completes abruptly, the field access expression completes abruptly for the same reason.





          Where earlier it states that field access is identified by Primary.Identifier.



          This shows that even though it seems to not use the Primary, it is still evaluated and the result is then discarded which is why it will need to be initialized. This can make a difference when the evaluation halts the access as stated in the quote.







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              Chapter 16. Definite Assignment



              Each local variable (§14.4) and every blank final field (§4.12.4, §8.3.1.2) must have a definitely assigned value when any access of its value occurs.




              It doesn't really matter what you try to access via a local variable. The rule is that it should be definitely assigned before that.



              To evaluate a field access expression foo.x, the primary part of it (foo) must be evaluated first. It means that access to foo will occur, which will result in a compile-time error.




              For every access of a local variable or blank final field x, x must be definitely assigned before the access, or a compile-time error occurs.







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              • I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

                – Pshemo
                7 hours ago











              • Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

                – Pshemo
                5 hours ago












              • @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

                – Andrew Tobilko
                5 hours ago















              4

















              Chapter 16. Definite Assignment



              Each local variable (§14.4) and every blank final field (§4.12.4, §8.3.1.2) must have a definitely assigned value when any access of its value occurs.




              It doesn't really matter what you try to access via a local variable. The rule is that it should be definitely assigned before that.



              To evaluate a field access expression foo.x, the primary part of it (foo) must be evaluated first. It means that access to foo will occur, which will result in a compile-time error.




              For every access of a local variable or blank final field x, x must be definitely assigned before the access, or a compile-time error occurs.







              share|improve this answer



























              • I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

                – Pshemo
                7 hours ago











              • Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

                – Pshemo
                5 hours ago












              • @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

                – Andrew Tobilko
                5 hours ago













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              4










              Chapter 16. Definite Assignment



              Each local variable (§14.4) and every blank final field (§4.12.4, §8.3.1.2) must have a definitely assigned value when any access of its value occurs.




              It doesn't really matter what you try to access via a local variable. The rule is that it should be definitely assigned before that.



              To evaluate a field access expression foo.x, the primary part of it (foo) must be evaluated first. It means that access to foo will occur, which will result in a compile-time error.




              For every access of a local variable or blank final field x, x must be definitely assigned before the access, or a compile-time error occurs.







              share|improve this answer
















              Chapter 16. Definite Assignment



              Each local variable (§14.4) and every blank final field (§4.12.4, §8.3.1.2) must have a definitely assigned value when any access of its value occurs.




              It doesn't really matter what you try to access via a local variable. The rule is that it should be definitely assigned before that.



              To evaluate a field access expression foo.x, the primary part of it (foo) must be evaluated first. It means that access to foo will occur, which will result in a compile-time error.




              For every access of a local variable or blank final field x, x must be definitely assigned before the access, or a compile-time error occurs.








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              • I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

                – Pshemo
                7 hours ago











              • Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

                – Pshemo
                5 hours ago












              • @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

                – Andrew Tobilko
                5 hours ago

















              • I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

                – Pshemo
                7 hours ago











              • Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

                – Pshemo
                5 hours ago












              • @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

                – Andrew Tobilko
                5 hours ago
















              I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

              – Pshemo
              7 hours ago





              I think correct answer is combination of yours and Nexevis. Now I need to figure out which one to accept...

              – Pshemo
              7 hours ago













              Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

              – Pshemo
              5 hours ago






              Since Nexevis was first to show place in specification which forces primary expression (here foo) to be evaluated regardless of its result I decided to accept his answer. Hope you don't mind.

              – Pshemo
              5 hours ago














              @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

              – Andrew Tobilko
              5 hours ago





              @Pshemo I am absolutely fine with your decision :)

              – Andrew Tobilko
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              There is value in keeping the rules as simple as possible, and “don’t use a variable that might not have been initialised” is as simple as it gets.



              More to the point, there is an established way of calling static methods - always use the class name, not a variable.



              System.out.println(Foo.x);


              The variable “foo” is unwanted overhead that should be removed, and the compiler errors and warnings could be seen as helping leading towards that.






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                There is value in keeping the rules as simple as possible, and “don’t use a variable that might not have been initialised” is as simple as it gets.



                More to the point, there is an established way of calling static methods - always use the class name, not a variable.



                System.out.println(Foo.x);


                The variable “foo” is unwanted overhead that should be removed, and the compiler errors and warnings could be seen as helping leading towards that.






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                  There is value in keeping the rules as simple as possible, and “don’t use a variable that might not have been initialised” is as simple as it gets.



                  More to the point, there is an established way of calling static methods - always use the class name, not a variable.



                  System.out.println(Foo.x);


                  The variable “foo” is unwanted overhead that should be removed, and the compiler errors and warnings could be seen as helping leading towards that.






                  share|improve this answer















                  There is value in keeping the rules as simple as possible, and “don’t use a variable that might not have been initialised” is as simple as it gets.



                  More to the point, there is an established way of calling static methods - always use the class name, not a variable.



                  System.out.println(Foo.x);


                  The variable “foo” is unwanted overhead that should be removed, and the compiler errors and warnings could be seen as helping leading towards that.







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