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Can one guy with a duplicator trigger a nuclear apocalypse?


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The setting:



  • Present day. The country is up to you. Whatever would be easiest.

The guy:



  • Highly skilled. Maybe ex-Marine? Special forces? You can have him be "top of his class" at just about anything, but not a genius or a superhuman.

  • Has a death wish, but like, for everyone. He knows that he won't come out of this alive, and he doesn't care. He just wants the whole world to burn. Total human extinction if possible.

The duplicator:



  • Shaped like a gateway large enough for a car.

  • Only works once. Once you hit the button, it stays on, producing the exact same thing over and over, with no option to change what it makes.

  • To activate, fill up a car with whatever supplies you want duplicated (i.e. a car containing you, your savings in cash, provisions, C4, guns, and ammunition), then hit the button. From that point on, an endless line of cars driven by clones of you drives out of the gateway at a rate of about 5 per minute.

  • All duplicates are created at once, so the duplicate who drives out 4 hours after you hit the button has been driving for 4 hours (they come out of parallel universes; I don't want to get into it). They can refuel and replenish their food supplies in the other universes, so don't worry about that, but their need to sleep might impose time constraints.

  • Can be placed anywhere (the limiting factor is where to park all the identical cars). Can't be moved after the button's been pressed.

The question:



  • Can this guy and his duplicated army get past a country's defenses and launch their entire nuclear arsenal?

The way I see it, he has a well-coordinated, well-equipped, and talented army that can assemble innocuously in a matter of hours or days, so it seems plausible that he could overpower them before reinforcements arrive. Then again, he doesn't have nuclear codes or any clear way to get them. Does he stand a chance? Are nukes even his best option?










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    Any particular country in mind? I'm thinking the US is a whole different thing from N-Korea in terms of how you might succeed, and sheer number of weapons to trigger.
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    8 hours ago











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    I had the US in mind, but if another country might be easier to infiltrate, then by all means. I'd just like to know the option that leads to maximum destruction.
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    – Gilad M
    8 hours ago






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    An army of cloned privates will have a devastating shortage of sergeants and officers. An army of cloned officers will be pretty useless. An army of cloned sergeants may function for a little while, but the complete lack of officers will eventually doom it. Officers, sergeants and privates are all necessary; officers provide the vision and the overall direction, sergeants are good at motivating their subordinates and leading small tactical engagements, and privates take orders and are willing to die for their flag. The point being that he absolutely does not have a well-coordinated army.
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    – AlexP
    8 hours ago










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    @AlexP All of the clones are created with his memories, including his plan which he came up with before he used the duplicator. So they all start perfectly on the same page. And all of them are well-trained and capable of leading, tactics, taking orders and dying, so I don't see why he'd have trouble filling all of those roles and creating a chain of command.
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    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










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    Relevant: The Simpsons on the shortcomings of an army-of-one: youtube.com/watch?v=HLITQXRH70M
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    – user535733
    7 hours ago


















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$begingroup$


The setting:



  • Present day. The country is up to you. Whatever would be easiest.

The guy:



  • Highly skilled. Maybe ex-Marine? Special forces? You can have him be "top of his class" at just about anything, but not a genius or a superhuman.

  • Has a death wish, but like, for everyone. He knows that he won't come out of this alive, and he doesn't care. He just wants the whole world to burn. Total human extinction if possible.

The duplicator:



  • Shaped like a gateway large enough for a car.

  • Only works once. Once you hit the button, it stays on, producing the exact same thing over and over, with no option to change what it makes.

  • To activate, fill up a car with whatever supplies you want duplicated (i.e. a car containing you, your savings in cash, provisions, C4, guns, and ammunition), then hit the button. From that point on, an endless line of cars driven by clones of you drives out of the gateway at a rate of about 5 per minute.

  • All duplicates are created at once, so the duplicate who drives out 4 hours after you hit the button has been driving for 4 hours (they come out of parallel universes; I don't want to get into it). They can refuel and replenish their food supplies in the other universes, so don't worry about that, but their need to sleep might impose time constraints.

  • Can be placed anywhere (the limiting factor is where to park all the identical cars). Can't be moved after the button's been pressed.

The question:



  • Can this guy and his duplicated army get past a country's defenses and launch their entire nuclear arsenal?

The way I see it, he has a well-coordinated, well-equipped, and talented army that can assemble innocuously in a matter of hours or days, so it seems plausible that he could overpower them before reinforcements arrive. Then again, he doesn't have nuclear codes or any clear way to get them. Does he stand a chance? Are nukes even his best option?










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  • $begingroup$
    Any particular country in mind? I'm thinking the US is a whole different thing from N-Korea in terms of how you might succeed, and sheer number of weapons to trigger.
    $endgroup$
    – Measure of despare.
    8 hours ago











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    I had the US in mind, but if another country might be easier to infiltrate, then by all means. I'd just like to know the option that leads to maximum destruction.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    An army of cloned privates will have a devastating shortage of sergeants and officers. An army of cloned officers will be pretty useless. An army of cloned sergeants may function for a little while, but the complete lack of officers will eventually doom it. Officers, sergeants and privates are all necessary; officers provide the vision and the overall direction, sergeants are good at motivating their subordinates and leading small tactical engagements, and privates take orders and are willing to die for their flag. The point being that he absolutely does not have a well-coordinated army.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexP All of the clones are created with his memories, including his plan which he came up with before he used the duplicator. So they all start perfectly on the same page. And all of them are well-trained and capable of leading, tactics, taking orders and dying, so I don't see why he'd have trouble filling all of those roles and creating a chain of command.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Relevant: The Simpsons on the shortcomings of an army-of-one: youtube.com/watch?v=HLITQXRH70M
    $endgroup$
    – user535733
    7 hours ago














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$begingroup$


The setting:



  • Present day. The country is up to you. Whatever would be easiest.

The guy:



  • Highly skilled. Maybe ex-Marine? Special forces? You can have him be "top of his class" at just about anything, but not a genius or a superhuman.

  • Has a death wish, but like, for everyone. He knows that he won't come out of this alive, and he doesn't care. He just wants the whole world to burn. Total human extinction if possible.

The duplicator:



  • Shaped like a gateway large enough for a car.

  • Only works once. Once you hit the button, it stays on, producing the exact same thing over and over, with no option to change what it makes.

  • To activate, fill up a car with whatever supplies you want duplicated (i.e. a car containing you, your savings in cash, provisions, C4, guns, and ammunition), then hit the button. From that point on, an endless line of cars driven by clones of you drives out of the gateway at a rate of about 5 per minute.

  • All duplicates are created at once, so the duplicate who drives out 4 hours after you hit the button has been driving for 4 hours (they come out of parallel universes; I don't want to get into it). They can refuel and replenish their food supplies in the other universes, so don't worry about that, but their need to sleep might impose time constraints.

  • Can be placed anywhere (the limiting factor is where to park all the identical cars). Can't be moved after the button's been pressed.

The question:



  • Can this guy and his duplicated army get past a country's defenses and launch their entire nuclear arsenal?

The way I see it, he has a well-coordinated, well-equipped, and talented army that can assemble innocuously in a matter of hours or days, so it seems plausible that he could overpower them before reinforcements arrive. Then again, he doesn't have nuclear codes or any clear way to get them. Does he stand a chance? Are nukes even his best option?










share|improve this question









$endgroup$




The setting:



  • Present day. The country is up to you. Whatever would be easiest.

The guy:



  • Highly skilled. Maybe ex-Marine? Special forces? You can have him be "top of his class" at just about anything, but not a genius or a superhuman.

  • Has a death wish, but like, for everyone. He knows that he won't come out of this alive, and he doesn't care. He just wants the whole world to burn. Total human extinction if possible.

The duplicator:



  • Shaped like a gateway large enough for a car.

  • Only works once. Once you hit the button, it stays on, producing the exact same thing over and over, with no option to change what it makes.

  • To activate, fill up a car with whatever supplies you want duplicated (i.e. a car containing you, your savings in cash, provisions, C4, guns, and ammunition), then hit the button. From that point on, an endless line of cars driven by clones of you drives out of the gateway at a rate of about 5 per minute.

  • All duplicates are created at once, so the duplicate who drives out 4 hours after you hit the button has been driving for 4 hours (they come out of parallel universes; I don't want to get into it). They can refuel and replenish their food supplies in the other universes, so don't worry about that, but their need to sleep might impose time constraints.

  • Can be placed anywhere (the limiting factor is where to park all the identical cars). Can't be moved after the button's been pressed.

The question:



  • Can this guy and his duplicated army get past a country's defenses and launch their entire nuclear arsenal?

The way I see it, he has a well-coordinated, well-equipped, and talented army that can assemble innocuously in a matter of hours or days, so it seems plausible that he could overpower them before reinforcements arrive. Then again, he doesn't have nuclear codes or any clear way to get them. Does he stand a chance? Are nukes even his best option?







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    Any particular country in mind? I'm thinking the US is a whole different thing from N-Korea in terms of how you might succeed, and sheer number of weapons to trigger.
    $endgroup$
    – Measure of despare.
    8 hours ago











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    I had the US in mind, but if another country might be easier to infiltrate, then by all means. I'd just like to know the option that leads to maximum destruction.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    An army of cloned privates will have a devastating shortage of sergeants and officers. An army of cloned officers will be pretty useless. An army of cloned sergeants may function for a little while, but the complete lack of officers will eventually doom it. Officers, sergeants and privates are all necessary; officers provide the vision and the overall direction, sergeants are good at motivating their subordinates and leading small tactical engagements, and privates take orders and are willing to die for their flag. The point being that he absolutely does not have a well-coordinated army.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexP All of the clones are created with his memories, including his plan which he came up with before he used the duplicator. So they all start perfectly on the same page. And all of them are well-trained and capable of leading, tactics, taking orders and dying, so I don't see why he'd have trouble filling all of those roles and creating a chain of command.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Relevant: The Simpsons on the shortcomings of an army-of-one: youtube.com/watch?v=HLITQXRH70M
    $endgroup$
    – user535733
    7 hours ago

















  • $begingroup$
    Any particular country in mind? I'm thinking the US is a whole different thing from N-Korea in terms of how you might succeed, and sheer number of weapons to trigger.
    $endgroup$
    – Measure of despare.
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    I had the US in mind, but if another country might be easier to infiltrate, then by all means. I'd just like to know the option that leads to maximum destruction.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    8 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    An army of cloned privates will have a devastating shortage of sergeants and officers. An army of cloned officers will be pretty useless. An army of cloned sergeants may function for a little while, but the complete lack of officers will eventually doom it. Officers, sergeants and privates are all necessary; officers provide the vision and the overall direction, sergeants are good at motivating their subordinates and leading small tactical engagements, and privates take orders and are willing to die for their flag. The point being that he absolutely does not have a well-coordinated army.
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexP All of the clones are created with his memories, including his plan which he came up with before he used the duplicator. So they all start perfectly on the same page. And all of them are well-trained and capable of leading, tactics, taking orders and dying, so I don't see why he'd have trouble filling all of those roles and creating a chain of command.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Relevant: The Simpsons on the shortcomings of an army-of-one: youtube.com/watch?v=HLITQXRH70M
    $endgroup$
    – user535733
    7 hours ago
















$begingroup$
Any particular country in mind? I'm thinking the US is a whole different thing from N-Korea in terms of how you might succeed, and sheer number of weapons to trigger.
$endgroup$
– Measure of despare.
8 hours ago





$begingroup$
Any particular country in mind? I'm thinking the US is a whole different thing from N-Korea in terms of how you might succeed, and sheer number of weapons to trigger.
$endgroup$
– Measure of despare.
8 hours ago













$begingroup$
I had the US in mind, but if another country might be easier to infiltrate, then by all means. I'd just like to know the option that leads to maximum destruction.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
I had the US in mind, but if another country might be easier to infiltrate, then by all means. I'd just like to know the option that leads to maximum destruction.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
8 hours ago




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1




$begingroup$
An army of cloned privates will have a devastating shortage of sergeants and officers. An army of cloned officers will be pretty useless. An army of cloned sergeants may function for a little while, but the complete lack of officers will eventually doom it. Officers, sergeants and privates are all necessary; officers provide the vision and the overall direction, sergeants are good at motivating their subordinates and leading small tactical engagements, and privates take orders and are willing to die for their flag. The point being that he absolutely does not have a well-coordinated army.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
An army of cloned privates will have a devastating shortage of sergeants and officers. An army of cloned officers will be pretty useless. An army of cloned sergeants may function for a little while, but the complete lack of officers will eventually doom it. Officers, sergeants and privates are all necessary; officers provide the vision and the overall direction, sergeants are good at motivating their subordinates and leading small tactical engagements, and privates take orders and are willing to die for their flag. The point being that he absolutely does not have a well-coordinated army.
$endgroup$
– AlexP
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
@AlexP All of the clones are created with his memories, including his plan which he came up with before he used the duplicator. So they all start perfectly on the same page. And all of them are well-trained and capable of leading, tactics, taking orders and dying, so I don't see why he'd have trouble filling all of those roles and creating a chain of command.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
@AlexP All of the clones are created with his memories, including his plan which he came up with before he used the duplicator. So they all start perfectly on the same page. And all of them are well-trained and capable of leading, tactics, taking orders and dying, so I don't see why he'd have trouble filling all of those roles and creating a chain of command.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
7 hours ago












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Relevant: The Simpsons on the shortcomings of an army-of-one: youtube.com/watch?v=HLITQXRH70M
$endgroup$
– user535733
7 hours ago





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Relevant: The Simpsons on the shortcomings of an army-of-one: youtube.com/watch?v=HLITQXRH70M
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– user535733
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Make your own, Sorcerers Apprentice style



Pickup truck, guns, ammo, food, radiation suit, 10 7kg Uranium bricks.(Federal government allows you to get 7kg at a time and possess no more than 70 in a calendar year reputable sources may do sales checks and block your shenanigans)



Set this up outside a flooded quarry. Set up pumps to drain the quarry.



As clones come out with their uranium they pile stack it neatly and take up guard duty. Within a few hours the stack will be big enough that the clones will get radiation poisoning while stacking so shut off the pumps and dump bricks over the side. As the water starts to fill the quarry again the reaction speeds up.



Once it really gets going huge radioactive clouds will start circling the planet. It will make Chernobyl look like a wet fart. The only thing that could be done to stop it would be to nuke the pile itself, which would be worse in the short term, but perhaps the surface would be colonizable by mole people in 1000 years instead of 10000.






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    FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
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    I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
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    Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
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Flood of clones a democratic country with nuclear weapons. Make sure each clone gets to be registered as an elector.



Candidate the master as president (or prime minister), and have the clones vote for him. Sure victory.



Once he is in the war room with access to the nuclear suitcase, let him fire it with no mercy. Wait for retaliation.






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    Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
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    Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
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    In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
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Potentially yes, but it needs more of the knowledge and less of an army.



Nuclear weapons have several layers of protection. It is not enough to capture a nuke to be able to detonate it, and not enough to capture an entire nuclear facility to launch a missile. Intruders need to know exactly how to circumvent all security to succeed with their plan. An army of marines can potentially overrun a major military base, but still not able to launch a single missile.



So I think this has to be a specialist who worked with nuclear security rather than plain vanilla marine. He'd better to infiltrate the facility in "Mission Impossible"-style operation rather than try to engage in an all-out war.






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    The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
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To trigger a nuclear apocalypse, the guy doesn't need to trigger all the nukes himself. Triggering a few to exploit existing fault lines is enough to watch everyone destroy themselves. For example - India Pakistan, India China, US China, US North Korea, US Russia, Israel Iran (rumored to be working on nukes).



At the rate of 5 per minute, duplicator can produce 7200 clones per day. However, things like credit card, identity card etc tie into an external database (of banks, govt), so they won't work. So, your guy needs to go old school, with cash etc :P.



Since he can have the right knowledge, he can be someone who already knows how to compromise a nuke carrying submarine with the right number of clones. This is possible if he knows schedule etc of the sub's stops, and knows enough to operate and flee away with it, and launch the nukes.



This way, he is armed, and mobile.



Once done, all that is needed is to trigger nuclear strikes on individual cities, and watch the world destroy itself.




Of course, the best place for a duplicator in such a case will be some hidden location within the sub itself.




However, if you want the guy to physically grab all the nukes and trigger them, that would be a difficult task - there are supposedly 8 nuclear armed countries, with over 16000+ warheads as per wikipedia. even if these are stored 10 per location, you would have 1600 really strongly defended locations, busting which will be an impossible feat given the constraints involved (intelligence, logistics, coordination, etc)






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    Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
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    @GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
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    Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
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    @GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
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Pickup truck, guns, ammo, food, radiation suit, 10 7kg Uranium bricks.(Federal government allows you to get 7kg at a time and possess no more than 70 in a calendar year reputable sources may do sales checks and block your shenanigans)



Set this up outside a flooded quarry. Set up pumps to drain the quarry.



As clones come out with their uranium they pile stack it neatly and take up guard duty. Within a few hours the stack will be big enough that the clones will get radiation poisoning while stacking so shut off the pumps and dump bricks over the side. As the water starts to fill the quarry again the reaction speeds up.



Once it really gets going huge radioactive clouds will start circling the planet. It will make Chernobyl look like a wet fart. The only thing that could be done to stop it would be to nuke the pile itself, which would be worse in the short term, but perhaps the surface would be colonizable by mole people in 1000 years instead of 10000.






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    FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
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    – Alexander
    5 hours ago







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    I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
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    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
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    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago















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Make your own, Sorcerers Apprentice style



Pickup truck, guns, ammo, food, radiation suit, 10 7kg Uranium bricks.(Federal government allows you to get 7kg at a time and possess no more than 70 in a calendar year reputable sources may do sales checks and block your shenanigans)



Set this up outside a flooded quarry. Set up pumps to drain the quarry.



As clones come out with their uranium they pile stack it neatly and take up guard duty. Within a few hours the stack will be big enough that the clones will get radiation poisoning while stacking so shut off the pumps and dump bricks over the side. As the water starts to fill the quarry again the reaction speeds up.



Once it really gets going huge radioactive clouds will start circling the planet. It will make Chernobyl look like a wet fart. The only thing that could be done to stop it would be to nuke the pile itself, which would be worse in the short term, but perhaps the surface would be colonizable by mole people in 1000 years instead of 10000.






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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexander
    5 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago













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$begingroup$

Make your own, Sorcerers Apprentice style



Pickup truck, guns, ammo, food, radiation suit, 10 7kg Uranium bricks.(Federal government allows you to get 7kg at a time and possess no more than 70 in a calendar year reputable sources may do sales checks and block your shenanigans)



Set this up outside a flooded quarry. Set up pumps to drain the quarry.



As clones come out with their uranium they pile stack it neatly and take up guard duty. Within a few hours the stack will be big enough that the clones will get radiation poisoning while stacking so shut off the pumps and dump bricks over the side. As the water starts to fill the quarry again the reaction speeds up.



Once it really gets going huge radioactive clouds will start circling the planet. It will make Chernobyl look like a wet fart. The only thing that could be done to stop it would be to nuke the pile itself, which would be worse in the short term, but perhaps the surface would be colonizable by mole people in 1000 years instead of 10000.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$



Make your own, Sorcerers Apprentice style



Pickup truck, guns, ammo, food, radiation suit, 10 7kg Uranium bricks.(Federal government allows you to get 7kg at a time and possess no more than 70 in a calendar year reputable sources may do sales checks and block your shenanigans)



Set this up outside a flooded quarry. Set up pumps to drain the quarry.



As clones come out with their uranium they pile stack it neatly and take up guard duty. Within a few hours the stack will be big enough that the clones will get radiation poisoning while stacking so shut off the pumps and dump bricks over the side. As the water starts to fill the quarry again the reaction speeds up.



Once it really gets going huge radioactive clouds will start circling the planet. It will make Chernobyl look like a wet fart. The only thing that could be done to stop it would be to nuke the pile itself, which would be worse in the short term, but perhaps the surface would be colonizable by mole people in 1000 years instead of 10000.







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    $begingroup$
    FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexander
    5 hours ago







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    $begingroup$
    I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexander
    5 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    5 hours ago







1




1




$begingroup$
FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
$endgroup$
– Alexander
5 hours ago





$begingroup$
FYI: 7 kg limit of Uranium refers to either natural or depleted Uranium. Without enrichment, this operation is not going to succeed.
$endgroup$
– Alexander
5 hours ago





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$begingroup$
I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
I like this a lot, but yeah, @Alexander has a point. I think this plan could last roughly a week before the government shut it down, which amounts to about 2000 tons of material. As for how much of a problem that much natural Uranium in one place would be, I haven't a clue. Definitely an ecological nightmare, but probably not the end of the world.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
5 hours ago












$begingroup$
Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Might wind up asking a spin-off question about it, or maybe figuring out a way for the guy to get half a gram of enriched Uranium in a way that doesn't seem too contrived. At any rate, thanks for telling me how much Uranium a person could buy - I didn't want to look it up and end up on a watch list :P
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– Gilad M
5 hours ago













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Flood of clones a democratic country with nuclear weapons. Make sure each clone gets to be registered as an elector.



Candidate the master as president (or prime minister), and have the clones vote for him. Sure victory.



Once he is in the war room with access to the nuclear suitcase, let him fire it with no mercy. Wait for retaliation.






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    Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
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    – Measure of despare.
    4 hours ago










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    Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
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    – Gilad M
    4 hours ago










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    In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
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    – Thucydides
    37 mins ago















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$begingroup$

Flood of clones a democratic country with nuclear weapons. Make sure each clone gets to be registered as an elector.



Candidate the master as president (or prime minister), and have the clones vote for him. Sure victory.



Once he is in the war room with access to the nuclear suitcase, let him fire it with no mercy. Wait for retaliation.






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  • $begingroup$
    Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
    $endgroup$
    – Measure of despare.
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
    $endgroup$
    – Thucydides
    37 mins ago













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5







$begingroup$

Flood of clones a democratic country with nuclear weapons. Make sure each clone gets to be registered as an elector.



Candidate the master as president (or prime minister), and have the clones vote for him. Sure victory.



Once he is in the war room with access to the nuclear suitcase, let him fire it with no mercy. Wait for retaliation.






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$endgroup$



Flood of clones a democratic country with nuclear weapons. Make sure each clone gets to be registered as an elector.



Candidate the master as president (or prime minister), and have the clones vote for him. Sure victory.



Once he is in the war room with access to the nuclear suitcase, let him fire it with no mercy. Wait for retaliation.







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answered 4 hours ago









L.DutchL.Dutch

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  • $begingroup$
    Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
    $endgroup$
    – Measure of despare.
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
    $endgroup$
    – Thucydides
    37 mins ago
















  • $begingroup$
    Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
    $endgroup$
    – Measure of despare.
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
    $endgroup$
    – Thucydides
    37 mins ago















$begingroup$
Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
$endgroup$
– Measure of despare.
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
Though I considered a number of contingencies, this one never occurred to me. +1 for patience waiting for the clones to come through.
$endgroup$
– Measure of despare.
4 hours ago












$begingroup$
Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
Haha, upvoted for the sheer cheek of it. But I imagine people would start to notice if the population of France or whatever mysteriously doubles and all of the new citizens look the same. :)
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
4 hours ago












$begingroup$
In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
$endgroup$
– Thucydides
37 mins ago




$begingroup$
In a parliamentary system, you don't directly elect the Prime Minister. You may want Boris Johnson but end up with Theresa May. Countries with Proportional Representation systems are even worse when it comes to playing electoral games to create a viable coalition.
$endgroup$
– Thucydides
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Potentially yes, but it needs more of the knowledge and less of an army.



Nuclear weapons have several layers of protection. It is not enough to capture a nuke to be able to detonate it, and not enough to capture an entire nuclear facility to launch a missile. Intruders need to know exactly how to circumvent all security to succeed with their plan. An army of marines can potentially overrun a major military base, but still not able to launch a single missile.



So I think this has to be a specialist who worked with nuclear security rather than plain vanilla marine. He'd better to infiltrate the facility in "Mission Impossible"-style operation rather than try to engage in an all-out war.






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    The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
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    – Tangurena
    4 hours ago















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Potentially yes, but it needs more of the knowledge and less of an army.



Nuclear weapons have several layers of protection. It is not enough to capture a nuke to be able to detonate it, and not enough to capture an entire nuclear facility to launch a missile. Intruders need to know exactly how to circumvent all security to succeed with their plan. An army of marines can potentially overrun a major military base, but still not able to launch a single missile.



So I think this has to be a specialist who worked with nuclear security rather than plain vanilla marine. He'd better to infiltrate the facility in "Mission Impossible"-style operation rather than try to engage in an all-out war.






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$endgroup$














  • $begingroup$
    The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
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    – Tangurena
    4 hours ago













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Potentially yes, but it needs more of the knowledge and less of an army.



Nuclear weapons have several layers of protection. It is not enough to capture a nuke to be able to detonate it, and not enough to capture an entire nuclear facility to launch a missile. Intruders need to know exactly how to circumvent all security to succeed with their plan. An army of marines can potentially overrun a major military base, but still not able to launch a single missile.



So I think this has to be a specialist who worked with nuclear security rather than plain vanilla marine. He'd better to infiltrate the facility in "Mission Impossible"-style operation rather than try to engage in an all-out war.






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$endgroup$



Potentially yes, but it needs more of the knowledge and less of an army.



Nuclear weapons have several layers of protection. It is not enough to capture a nuke to be able to detonate it, and not enough to capture an entire nuclear facility to launch a missile. Intruders need to know exactly how to circumvent all security to succeed with their plan. An army of marines can potentially overrun a major military base, but still not able to launch a single missile.



So I think this has to be a specialist who worked with nuclear security rather than plain vanilla marine. He'd better to infiltrate the facility in "Mission Impossible"-style operation rather than try to engage in an all-out war.







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AlexanderAlexander

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  • $begingroup$
    The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
    $endgroup$
    – Tangurena
    4 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
    $endgroup$
    – Tangurena
    4 hours ago















$begingroup$
The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
$endgroup$
– Tangurena
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
The point of Permissive Action Links is to prevent this sort of thing: even if Ye Olde Bad Guye takes over an entire missile wing, or bomber wing, eats the brains of everyone present, and goes "wing attack plan R!", the PALs won't let the bombs go boom without proper authorization from above.
$endgroup$
– Tangurena
4 hours ago











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To trigger a nuclear apocalypse, the guy doesn't need to trigger all the nukes himself. Triggering a few to exploit existing fault lines is enough to watch everyone destroy themselves. For example - India Pakistan, India China, US China, US North Korea, US Russia, Israel Iran (rumored to be working on nukes).



At the rate of 5 per minute, duplicator can produce 7200 clones per day. However, things like credit card, identity card etc tie into an external database (of banks, govt), so they won't work. So, your guy needs to go old school, with cash etc :P.



Since he can have the right knowledge, he can be someone who already knows how to compromise a nuke carrying submarine with the right number of clones. This is possible if he knows schedule etc of the sub's stops, and knows enough to operate and flee away with it, and launch the nukes.



This way, he is armed, and mobile.



Once done, all that is needed is to trigger nuclear strikes on individual cities, and watch the world destroy itself.




Of course, the best place for a duplicator in such a case will be some hidden location within the sub itself.




However, if you want the guy to physically grab all the nukes and trigger them, that would be a difficult task - there are supposedly 8 nuclear armed countries, with over 16000+ warheads as per wikipedia. even if these are stored 10 per location, you would have 1600 really strongly defended locations, busting which will be an impossible feat given the constraints involved (intelligence, logistics, coordination, etc)






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    Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
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    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










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    @GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
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    – mu 無
    7 hours ago










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    Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
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    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










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    @GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
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    – mu 無
    7 hours ago















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$begingroup$

To trigger a nuclear apocalypse, the guy doesn't need to trigger all the nukes himself. Triggering a few to exploit existing fault lines is enough to watch everyone destroy themselves. For example - India Pakistan, India China, US China, US North Korea, US Russia, Israel Iran (rumored to be working on nukes).



At the rate of 5 per minute, duplicator can produce 7200 clones per day. However, things like credit card, identity card etc tie into an external database (of banks, govt), so they won't work. So, your guy needs to go old school, with cash etc :P.



Since he can have the right knowledge, he can be someone who already knows how to compromise a nuke carrying submarine with the right number of clones. This is possible if he knows schedule etc of the sub's stops, and knows enough to operate and flee away with it, and launch the nukes.



This way, he is armed, and mobile.



Once done, all that is needed is to trigger nuclear strikes on individual cities, and watch the world destroy itself.




Of course, the best place for a duplicator in such a case will be some hidden location within the sub itself.




However, if you want the guy to physically grab all the nukes and trigger them, that would be a difficult task - there are supposedly 8 nuclear armed countries, with over 16000+ warheads as per wikipedia. even if these are stored 10 per location, you would have 1600 really strongly defended locations, busting which will be an impossible feat given the constraints involved (intelligence, logistics, coordination, etc)






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  • $begingroup$
    Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
    $endgroup$
    – mu 無
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
    $endgroup$
    – mu 無
    7 hours ago













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$begingroup$

To trigger a nuclear apocalypse, the guy doesn't need to trigger all the nukes himself. Triggering a few to exploit existing fault lines is enough to watch everyone destroy themselves. For example - India Pakistan, India China, US China, US North Korea, US Russia, Israel Iran (rumored to be working on nukes).



At the rate of 5 per minute, duplicator can produce 7200 clones per day. However, things like credit card, identity card etc tie into an external database (of banks, govt), so they won't work. So, your guy needs to go old school, with cash etc :P.



Since he can have the right knowledge, he can be someone who already knows how to compromise a nuke carrying submarine with the right number of clones. This is possible if he knows schedule etc of the sub's stops, and knows enough to operate and flee away with it, and launch the nukes.



This way, he is armed, and mobile.



Once done, all that is needed is to trigger nuclear strikes on individual cities, and watch the world destroy itself.




Of course, the best place for a duplicator in such a case will be some hidden location within the sub itself.




However, if you want the guy to physically grab all the nukes and trigger them, that would be a difficult task - there are supposedly 8 nuclear armed countries, with over 16000+ warheads as per wikipedia. even if these are stored 10 per location, you would have 1600 really strongly defended locations, busting which will be an impossible feat given the constraints involved (intelligence, logistics, coordination, etc)






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$endgroup$



To trigger a nuclear apocalypse, the guy doesn't need to trigger all the nukes himself. Triggering a few to exploit existing fault lines is enough to watch everyone destroy themselves. For example - India Pakistan, India China, US China, US North Korea, US Russia, Israel Iran (rumored to be working on nukes).



At the rate of 5 per minute, duplicator can produce 7200 clones per day. However, things like credit card, identity card etc tie into an external database (of banks, govt), so they won't work. So, your guy needs to go old school, with cash etc :P.



Since he can have the right knowledge, he can be someone who already knows how to compromise a nuke carrying submarine with the right number of clones. This is possible if he knows schedule etc of the sub's stops, and knows enough to operate and flee away with it, and launch the nukes.



This way, he is armed, and mobile.



Once done, all that is needed is to trigger nuclear strikes on individual cities, and watch the world destroy itself.




Of course, the best place for a duplicator in such a case will be some hidden location within the sub itself.




However, if you want the guy to physically grab all the nukes and trigger them, that would be a difficult task - there are supposedly 8 nuclear armed countries, with over 16000+ warheads as per wikipedia. even if these are stored 10 per location, you would have 1600 really strongly defended locations, busting which will be an impossible feat given the constraints involved (intelligence, logistics, coordination, etc)







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mu 無mu 無

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    Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
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    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
    $endgroup$
    – mu 無
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
    $endgroup$
    – mu 無
    7 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
    $endgroup$
    – mu 無
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
    $endgroup$
    – Gilad M
    7 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
    $endgroup$
    – mu 無
    7 hours ago















$begingroup$
Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
Yeah, the goal from the start was launching only one country's nukes and hoping nuclear war follows. The hard part is the "launch the first nuke" part - I'm not sure how feasible it is for someone to take over a nuclear sub and have the authorization to launch. (also fyi at 5/minute it's 5760/day not 288)
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
7 hours ago












$begingroup$
@GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
$endgroup$
– mu 無
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
@GiladM Thanks, I calculated basis 1 per 5 minute :). As for getting hold of nuclear subs, hollywood movies have shown it a few time, so I guess its upto the narrative that is being built around it.
$endgroup$
– mu 無
7 hours ago












$begingroup$
Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
Wait, no, it's 7200 :P I misclicked, must have done the calculation for 4/minute. Whatever, the exact number isn't super important.
$endgroup$
– Gilad M
7 hours ago












$begingroup$
@GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
$endgroup$
– mu 無
7 hours ago




$begingroup$
@GiladM And I lazily did not calculate it either :D
$endgroup$
– mu 無
7 hours ago


















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