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What are the advantages and disadvantages of Preprints.org compared with arXiv?


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Preprints.org is a new site for sharing preprints of papers.



arXiv is one of the longest standing, stable and mature places for many people.



I'm wondering where to upload a paper (which is already open access on GitHub, but not very visible).



One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions.



One upside of arXiv is that it is open, stable and mature.



In summary, where should I put my preprint for maximum benefit?



Update



Thanks to the first link in the 'correct' answer below, I think I've discovered the OSF affiliated preprint services. See here for more info: Preprint services other than arXiv (for other fields)



Check it out (and potentially submit your preprints) here: https://osf.io/preprints/










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    "One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions." What do you mean by this? In the cases I've checked google scholar provided a link to both the published and arxiv versions, with the arxiv version being the latest revision.

    – mmeent
    10 hours ago






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    @mmeent Scholar definitely gets it wrong sometimes, and treats the arxiv version as the canonical version.

    – Bryan Krause
    9 hours ago











  • Scholar will get better over time.

    – user2768
    8 hours ago






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    arxiv and search engines: to me that's a non-issue because arXiv allows you to give the journal reference and the DOI (which auto-links to the published paper) once the paper is published. You can also update the preprint with the info about the "official" paper and again a link.

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Preprints.org is a new site for sharing preprints of papers.



arXiv is one of the longest standing, stable and mature places for many people.



I'm wondering where to upload a paper (which is already open access on GitHub, but not very visible).



One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions.



One upside of arXiv is that it is open, stable and mature.



In summary, where should I put my preprint for maximum benefit?



Update



Thanks to the first link in the 'correct' answer below, I think I've discovered the OSF affiliated preprint services. See here for more info: Preprint services other than arXiv (for other fields)



Check it out (and potentially submit your preprints) here: https://osf.io/preprints/










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    "One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions." What do you mean by this? In the cases I've checked google scholar provided a link to both the published and arxiv versions, with the arxiv version being the latest revision.

    – mmeent
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @mmeent Scholar definitely gets it wrong sometimes, and treats the arxiv version as the canonical version.

    – Bryan Krause
    9 hours ago











  • Scholar will get better over time.

    – user2768
    8 hours ago






  • 4





    arxiv and search engines: to me that's a non-issue because arXiv allows you to give the journal reference and the DOI (which auto-links to the published paper) once the paper is published. You can also update the preprint with the info about the "official" paper and again a link.

    – cbeleites
    6 hours ago













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Preprints.org is a new site for sharing preprints of papers.



arXiv is one of the longest standing, stable and mature places for many people.



I'm wondering where to upload a paper (which is already open access on GitHub, but not very visible).



One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions.



One upside of arXiv is that it is open, stable and mature.



In summary, where should I put my preprint for maximum benefit?



Update



Thanks to the first link in the 'correct' answer below, I think I've discovered the OSF affiliated preprint services. See here for more info: Preprint services other than arXiv (for other fields)



Check it out (and potentially submit your preprints) here: https://osf.io/preprints/










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Preprints.org is a new site for sharing preprints of papers.



arXiv is one of the longest standing, stable and mature places for many people.



I'm wondering where to upload a paper (which is already open access on GitHub, but not very visible).



One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions.



One upside of arXiv is that it is open, stable and mature.



In summary, where should I put my preprint for maximum benefit?



Update



Thanks to the first link in the 'correct' answer below, I think I've discovered the OSF affiliated preprint services. See here for more info: Preprint services other than arXiv (for other fields)



Check it out (and potentially submit your preprints) here: https://osf.io/preprints/







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    "One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions." What do you mean by this? In the cases I've checked google scholar provided a link to both the published and arxiv versions, with the arxiv version being the latest revision.

    – mmeent
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @mmeent Scholar definitely gets it wrong sometimes, and treats the arxiv version as the canonical version.

    – Bryan Krause
    9 hours ago











  • Scholar will get better over time.

    – user2768
    8 hours ago






  • 4





    arxiv and search engines: to me that's a non-issue because arXiv allows you to give the journal reference and the DOI (which auto-links to the published paper) once the paper is published. You can also update the preprint with the info about the "official" paper and again a link.

    – cbeleites
    6 hours ago












  • 2





    "One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions." What do you mean by this? In the cases I've checked google scholar provided a link to both the published and arxiv versions, with the arxiv version being the latest revision.

    – mmeent
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @mmeent Scholar definitely gets it wrong sometimes, and treats the arxiv version as the canonical version.

    – Bryan Krause
    9 hours ago











  • Scholar will get better over time.

    – user2768
    8 hours ago






  • 4





    arxiv and search engines: to me that's a non-issue because arXiv allows you to give the journal reference and the DOI (which auto-links to the published paper) once the paper is published. You can also update the preprint with the info about the "official" paper and again a link.

    – cbeleites
    6 hours ago







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"One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions." What do you mean by this? In the cases I've checked google scholar provided a link to both the published and arxiv versions, with the arxiv version being the latest revision.

– mmeent
10 hours ago





"One downside of arXiv: Google Scholar seems to direct people to the arXiv and not the latest versions." What do you mean by this? In the cases I've checked google scholar provided a link to both the published and arxiv versions, with the arxiv version being the latest revision.

– mmeent
10 hours ago




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@mmeent Scholar definitely gets it wrong sometimes, and treats the arxiv version as the canonical version.

– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago





@mmeent Scholar definitely gets it wrong sometimes, and treats the arxiv version as the canonical version.

– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago













Scholar will get better over time.

– user2768
8 hours ago





Scholar will get better over time.

– user2768
8 hours ago




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arxiv and search engines: to me that's a non-issue because arXiv allows you to give the journal reference and the DOI (which auto-links to the published paper) once the paper is published. You can also update the preprint with the info about the "official" paper and again a link.

– cbeleites
6 hours ago





arxiv and search engines: to me that's a non-issue because arXiv allows you to give the journal reference and the DOI (which auto-links to the published paper) once the paper is published. You can also update the preprint with the info about the "official" paper and again a link.

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You should generally use the service that most people in your field uses. In my subfield of physics people follow the daily postings on arXiv, so that's the natural choice for me. I imagine a preprint would be effectively invisible if posted elsewhere, except to someone who happens to be browsing my Google Scholar profile, ResearchGate profile or website. One could perhaps post to both arXiv and Preprints.org for wider dissemination, but that might confuse e.g. Google Scholar's citation counts so I'm not sure if it's a net benefit.



Advantages of Preprints.org




  • Much wider field coverage.

  • Can assign DOI to preprints. (Given that arXiv identifiers play essentially the same role, I personally don't think this is a large advantage, but some people seem to have a preference for DOIs.)

  • Has a comment system. (The closest thing on arXiv would be emailing the authors.)

Disadvantages of Preprints.org



  • No flexibility with license. All Preprints.org preprints are posted under a Creative Commons CC-BY 4.0 license. This makes some sense as Preprints.org is designed with open access journals in mind, but really limits the set of journals the manuscript can be published in.

  • It's not clear to me how Preprints.org would handle misleading comments. One might prefer not to have those on the same page as the preprint.

  • It's run by MDPI, a publisher that's been rather controversial in the past. Although they claim that Preprints.org is run on a not-for-profit basis, it remains fully funded by MDPI, which may or may not be a sustainable and lasting investment. (Compare e.g. the discontinued Nature Precedings.) In contrast, arXiv is operated by Cornell University (which at least I consider a more respectable entity), and has proven to have lasting power.

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  • One can volunteer to screen preprints on Preprints.org. Is that more or less robust than the screening by arXiv moderators?





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    If the use of arxiv in your field of science is common, that is probably the better option for you personally. For example, subject specific abstract indexing services (like inSPIRE or ADS for high energy physics and astronomy) will automatically like their entries for the arxiv version to the journal version. Consequently, you will easily be able to obtain combined citation counts.



    However, there are some limits to the arxiv. One of the foremost is that they accept pre-prints only for a limited number of subject areas (essentially physics+astronomy+mathematics+(some) computer science with maybe some cross-over into other fields). Consequently, for some fields the arxiv simply is not an option. (There also some subfields for which the arxiv would accept pre-prints, but the use of the arxiv is not so common). In this case, alternatives could be interesting.



    Personally, I have never heard of preprints.org. One potential worry I would have is that it is owned by a (commercial) publisher. So, eventhough it is currently run as a non-profit with free access, I am not sure what safeguards there are from them changing there usage policy in the future. I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything.






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    You should generally use the service that most people in your field uses. In my subfield of physics people follow the daily postings on arXiv, so that's the natural choice for me. I imagine a preprint would be effectively invisible if posted elsewhere, except to someone who happens to be browsing my Google Scholar profile, ResearchGate profile or website. One could perhaps post to both arXiv and Preprints.org for wider dissemination, but that might confuse e.g. Google Scholar's citation counts so I'm not sure if it's a net benefit.



    Advantages of Preprints.org




    • Much wider field coverage.

    • Can assign DOI to preprints. (Given that arXiv identifiers play essentially the same role, I personally don't think this is a large advantage, but some people seem to have a preference for DOIs.)

    • Has a comment system. (The closest thing on arXiv would be emailing the authors.)

    Disadvantages of Preprints.org



    • No flexibility with license. All Preprints.org preprints are posted under a Creative Commons CC-BY 4.0 license. This makes some sense as Preprints.org is designed with open access journals in mind, but really limits the set of journals the manuscript can be published in.

    • It's not clear to me how Preprints.org would handle misleading comments. One might prefer not to have those on the same page as the preprint.

    • It's run by MDPI, a publisher that's been rather controversial in the past. Although they claim that Preprints.org is run on a not-for-profit basis, it remains fully funded by MDPI, which may or may not be a sustainable and lasting investment. (Compare e.g. the discontinued Nature Precedings.) In contrast, arXiv is operated by Cornell University (which at least I consider a more respectable entity), and has proven to have lasting power.

    Unknowns



    • One can volunteer to screen preprints on Preprints.org. Is that more or less robust than the screening by arXiv moderators?





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      You should generally use the service that most people in your field uses. In my subfield of physics people follow the daily postings on arXiv, so that's the natural choice for me. I imagine a preprint would be effectively invisible if posted elsewhere, except to someone who happens to be browsing my Google Scholar profile, ResearchGate profile or website. One could perhaps post to both arXiv and Preprints.org for wider dissemination, but that might confuse e.g. Google Scholar's citation counts so I'm not sure if it's a net benefit.



      Advantages of Preprints.org




      • Much wider field coverage.

      • Can assign DOI to preprints. (Given that arXiv identifiers play essentially the same role, I personally don't think this is a large advantage, but some people seem to have a preference for DOIs.)

      • Has a comment system. (The closest thing on arXiv would be emailing the authors.)

      Disadvantages of Preprints.org



      • No flexibility with license. All Preprints.org preprints are posted under a Creative Commons CC-BY 4.0 license. This makes some sense as Preprints.org is designed with open access journals in mind, but really limits the set of journals the manuscript can be published in.

      • It's not clear to me how Preprints.org would handle misleading comments. One might prefer not to have those on the same page as the preprint.

      • It's run by MDPI, a publisher that's been rather controversial in the past. Although they claim that Preprints.org is run on a not-for-profit basis, it remains fully funded by MDPI, which may or may not be a sustainable and lasting investment. (Compare e.g. the discontinued Nature Precedings.) In contrast, arXiv is operated by Cornell University (which at least I consider a more respectable entity), and has proven to have lasting power.

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      • One can volunteer to screen preprints on Preprints.org. Is that more or less robust than the screening by arXiv moderators?





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        You should generally use the service that most people in your field uses. In my subfield of physics people follow the daily postings on arXiv, so that's the natural choice for me. I imagine a preprint would be effectively invisible if posted elsewhere, except to someone who happens to be browsing my Google Scholar profile, ResearchGate profile or website. One could perhaps post to both arXiv and Preprints.org for wider dissemination, but that might confuse e.g. Google Scholar's citation counts so I'm not sure if it's a net benefit.



        Advantages of Preprints.org




        • Much wider field coverage.

        • Can assign DOI to preprints. (Given that arXiv identifiers play essentially the same role, I personally don't think this is a large advantage, but some people seem to have a preference for DOIs.)

        • Has a comment system. (The closest thing on arXiv would be emailing the authors.)

        Disadvantages of Preprints.org



        • No flexibility with license. All Preprints.org preprints are posted under a Creative Commons CC-BY 4.0 license. This makes some sense as Preprints.org is designed with open access journals in mind, but really limits the set of journals the manuscript can be published in.

        • It's not clear to me how Preprints.org would handle misleading comments. One might prefer not to have those on the same page as the preprint.

        • It's run by MDPI, a publisher that's been rather controversial in the past. Although they claim that Preprints.org is run on a not-for-profit basis, it remains fully funded by MDPI, which may or may not be a sustainable and lasting investment. (Compare e.g. the discontinued Nature Precedings.) In contrast, arXiv is operated by Cornell University (which at least I consider a more respectable entity), and has proven to have lasting power.

        Unknowns



        • One can volunteer to screen preprints on Preprints.org. Is that more or less robust than the screening by arXiv moderators?





        share|improve this answer















        You should generally use the service that most people in your field uses. In my subfield of physics people follow the daily postings on arXiv, so that's the natural choice for me. I imagine a preprint would be effectively invisible if posted elsewhere, except to someone who happens to be browsing my Google Scholar profile, ResearchGate profile or website. One could perhaps post to both arXiv and Preprints.org for wider dissemination, but that might confuse e.g. Google Scholar's citation counts so I'm not sure if it's a net benefit.



        Advantages of Preprints.org




        • Much wider field coverage.

        • Can assign DOI to preprints. (Given that arXiv identifiers play essentially the same role, I personally don't think this is a large advantage, but some people seem to have a preference for DOIs.)

        • Has a comment system. (The closest thing on arXiv would be emailing the authors.)

        Disadvantages of Preprints.org



        • No flexibility with license. All Preprints.org preprints are posted under a Creative Commons CC-BY 4.0 license. This makes some sense as Preprints.org is designed with open access journals in mind, but really limits the set of journals the manuscript can be published in.

        • It's not clear to me how Preprints.org would handle misleading comments. One might prefer not to have those on the same page as the preprint.

        • It's run by MDPI, a publisher that's been rather controversial in the past. Although they claim that Preprints.org is run on a not-for-profit basis, it remains fully funded by MDPI, which may or may not be a sustainable and lasting investment. (Compare e.g. the discontinued Nature Precedings.) In contrast, arXiv is operated by Cornell University (which at least I consider a more respectable entity), and has proven to have lasting power.

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        • One can volunteer to screen preprints on Preprints.org. Is that more or less robust than the screening by arXiv moderators?






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            If the use of arxiv in your field of science is common, that is probably the better option for you personally. For example, subject specific abstract indexing services (like inSPIRE or ADS for high energy physics and astronomy) will automatically like their entries for the arxiv version to the journal version. Consequently, you will easily be able to obtain combined citation counts.



            However, there are some limits to the arxiv. One of the foremost is that they accept pre-prints only for a limited number of subject areas (essentially physics+astronomy+mathematics+(some) computer science with maybe some cross-over into other fields). Consequently, for some fields the arxiv simply is not an option. (There also some subfields for which the arxiv would accept pre-prints, but the use of the arxiv is not so common). In this case, alternatives could be interesting.



            Personally, I have never heard of preprints.org. One potential worry I would have is that it is owned by a (commercial) publisher. So, eventhough it is currently run as a non-profit with free access, I am not sure what safeguards there are from them changing there usage policy in the future. I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything.






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            • "I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything." This question is aiming to find out! Regarding your point about arXiv, I think in practice they do accept papers from any field. See this for example, which is outside the usual arXiv area - I submitted this 3 years ago to a (now accepted) transport planning journal: arxiv.org/abs/1509.04425 - the CS (computers and society) category is very, very wide.

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            If the use of arxiv in your field of science is common, that is probably the better option for you personally. For example, subject specific abstract indexing services (like inSPIRE or ADS for high energy physics and astronomy) will automatically like their entries for the arxiv version to the journal version. Consequently, you will easily be able to obtain combined citation counts.



            However, there are some limits to the arxiv. One of the foremost is that they accept pre-prints only for a limited number of subject areas (essentially physics+astronomy+mathematics+(some) computer science with maybe some cross-over into other fields). Consequently, for some fields the arxiv simply is not an option. (There also some subfields for which the arxiv would accept pre-prints, but the use of the arxiv is not so common). In this case, alternatives could be interesting.



            Personally, I have never heard of preprints.org. One potential worry I would have is that it is owned by a (commercial) publisher. So, eventhough it is currently run as a non-profit with free access, I am not sure what safeguards there are from them changing there usage policy in the future. I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything.






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            • "I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything." This question is aiming to find out! Regarding your point about arXiv, I think in practice they do accept papers from any field. See this for example, which is outside the usual arXiv area - I submitted this 3 years ago to a (now accepted) transport planning journal: arxiv.org/abs/1509.04425 - the CS (computers and society) category is very, very wide.

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            If the use of arxiv in your field of science is common, that is probably the better option for you personally. For example, subject specific abstract indexing services (like inSPIRE or ADS for high energy physics and astronomy) will automatically like their entries for the arxiv version to the journal version. Consequently, you will easily be able to obtain combined citation counts.



            However, there are some limits to the arxiv. One of the foremost is that they accept pre-prints only for a limited number of subject areas (essentially physics+astronomy+mathematics+(some) computer science with maybe some cross-over into other fields). Consequently, for some fields the arxiv simply is not an option. (There also some subfields for which the arxiv would accept pre-prints, but the use of the arxiv is not so common). In this case, alternatives could be interesting.



            Personally, I have never heard of preprints.org. One potential worry I would have is that it is owned by a (commercial) publisher. So, eventhough it is currently run as a non-profit with free access, I am not sure what safeguards there are from them changing there usage policy in the future. I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything.






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            If the use of arxiv in your field of science is common, that is probably the better option for you personally. For example, subject specific abstract indexing services (like inSPIRE or ADS for high energy physics and astronomy) will automatically like their entries for the arxiv version to the journal version. Consequently, you will easily be able to obtain combined citation counts.



            However, there are some limits to the arxiv. One of the foremost is that they accept pre-prints only for a limited number of subject areas (essentially physics+astronomy+mathematics+(some) computer science with maybe some cross-over into other fields). Consequently, for some fields the arxiv simply is not an option. (There also some subfields for which the arxiv would accept pre-prints, but the use of the arxiv is not so common). In this case, alternatives could be interesting.



            Personally, I have never heard of preprints.org. One potential worry I would have is that it is owned by a (commercial) publisher. So, eventhough it is currently run as a non-profit with free access, I am not sure what safeguards there are from them changing there usage policy in the future. I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything.







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            • "I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything." This question is aiming to find out! Regarding your point about arXiv, I think in practice they do accept papers from any field. See this for example, which is outside the usual arXiv area - I submitted this 3 years ago to a (now accepted) transport planning journal: arxiv.org/abs/1509.04425 - the CS (computers and society) category is very, very wide.

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            • "I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything." This question is aiming to find out! Regarding your point about arXiv, I think in practice they do accept papers from any field. See this for example, which is outside the usual arXiv area - I submitted this 3 years ago to a (now accepted) transport planning journal: arxiv.org/abs/1509.04425 - the CS (computers and society) category is very, very wide.

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            "I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything." This question is aiming to find out! Regarding your point about arXiv, I think in practice they do accept papers from any field. See this for example, which is outside the usual arXiv area - I submitted this 3 years ago to a (now accepted) transport planning journal: arxiv.org/abs/1509.04425 - the CS (computers and society) category is very, very wide.

            – RobinLovelace
            8 hours ago





            "I would certainly try to find out before submitting anything." This question is aiming to find out! Regarding your point about arXiv, I think in practice they do accept papers from any field. See this for example, which is outside the usual arXiv area - I submitted this 3 years ago to a (now accepted) transport planning journal: arxiv.org/abs/1509.04425 - the CS (computers and society) category is very, very wide.

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