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What was the role of Commodore-West Germany?
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Most of the history of Commodore in personal computers took place while East and West Germany were divided, and Commodore maintained a significant corporate presence in West Germany. While I believe that the center for Commodore's R&D was Its Headquarters in West Chester, Pennsylvania, I am curious about the technical contributions made by the facility in West Germany.
I'm not particularly interested in the regional sales, marketing, distribution, or assembly activities that were undoubtedly contributed. Specifically, I'd like to know about technical engineering or design done in West Germany.
Which Commodore products were significantly designed or engineered in West Germany rather than West Chester?
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Most of the history of Commodore in personal computers took place while East and West Germany were divided, and Commodore maintained a significant corporate presence in West Germany. While I believe that the center for Commodore's R&D was Its Headquarters in West Chester, Pennsylvania, I am curious about the technical contributions made by the facility in West Germany.
I'm not particularly interested in the regional sales, marketing, distribution, or assembly activities that were undoubtedly contributed. Specifically, I'd like to know about technical engineering or design done in West Germany.
Which Commodore products were significantly designed or engineered in West Germany rather than West Chester?
history amiga commodore design-choices
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Commodore Germany made mainly applications - like variations of the PET-II line. This includes at least one Amiga model and several add on boards. The whole PC line was developed in Braunschweig. From the Colt all the way to PC-70 - including the Amiga 1060 sidecar. The CBM-900 as well.
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Most of the history of Commodore in personal computers took place while East and West Germany were divided, and Commodore maintained a significant corporate presence in West Germany. While I believe that the center for Commodore's R&D was Its Headquarters in West Chester, Pennsylvania, I am curious about the technical contributions made by the facility in West Germany.
I'm not particularly interested in the regional sales, marketing, distribution, or assembly activities that were undoubtedly contributed. Specifically, I'd like to know about technical engineering or design done in West Germany.
Which Commodore products were significantly designed or engineered in West Germany rather than West Chester?
history amiga commodore design-choices
asked 9 hours ago
Brian HBrian H
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Most of the history of Commodore in personal computers took place while East and West Germany were divided, and Commodore maintained a significant corporate presence in West Germany. While I believe that the center for Commodore's R&D was Its Headquarters in West Chester, Pennsylvania, I am curious about the technical contributions made by the facility in West Germany.
I'm not particularly interested in the regional sales, marketing, distribution, or assembly activities that were undoubtedly contributed. Specifically, I'd like to know about technical engineering or design done in West Germany.
Which Commodore products were significantly designed or engineered in West Germany rather than West Chester?
history amiga commodore design-choices
history amiga commodore design-choices
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Brian HBrian H
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Commodore Germany made mainly applications - like variations of the PET-II line. This includes at least one Amiga model and several add on boards. The whole PC line was developed in Braunschweig. From the Colt all the way to PC-70 - including the Amiga 1060 sidecar. The CBM-900 as well.
– Raffzahn
8 hours ago
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Commodore Germany made mainly applications - like variations of the PET-II line. This includes at least one Amiga model and several add on boards. The whole PC line was developed in Braunschweig. From the Colt all the way to PC-70 - including the Amiga 1060 sidecar. The CBM-900 as well.
– Raffzahn
8 hours ago
Commodore Germany made mainly applications - like variations of the PET-II line. This includes at least one Amiga model and several add on boards. The whole PC line was developed in Braunschweig. From the Colt all the way to PC-70 - including the Amiga 1060 sidecar. The CBM-900 as well.
– Raffzahn
8 hours ago
Commodore Germany made mainly applications - like variations of the PET-II line. This includes at least one Amiga model and several add on boards. The whole PC line was developed in Braunschweig. From the Colt all the way to PC-70 - including the Amiga 1060 sidecar. The CBM-900 as well.
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Commodore Germany did in the beginning quite a lot adaptations and variations - like certain models of the PET-II line.
[Insert: Some site history
While the German subsidary (Commodore Büromaschienen GmbH), originally set in Neu-Isenburg near Frankfurt (and later moved into the city), had facilities for import handling and distribution, this was soon moved to a distribution center in Braunschweig and accomplished by a final assembly line and a development center. After 1982 this was the setup until the end.
]
The first complete system developed in Germany would be the PC compatible PC-10 of 1984 (Introduction in the US 1986), followed by the Z8000 based CBM-900 of 1985. The 900 was scraped soon after introduction - it is said because of the upcoming Amiga - but the PC series was quite a success in Germany and other countries, running until the very end. Notable here the PC-1 (or Colt in the US). Hardware wise a shrunk PC-10/III developed in Braunschweig on request of Commodore USA to counter the Atari PC1.
The Amiga 1060 sidecar (1986) was as well designed and built in Braunschweig. It does make sense with their experience in PC machines. Similar (AFAIK) the various bridge cards for the Amiga 2000 were made and built in Germany. Now due even more heritage as the 2000 itself was designed in Germany as well.
If you ever wondered why the Amiga 2000 design looks so different from the A1000 as well as any other (US) Commodore, just compare it with the 900 and PC-10. The 2000 was intended to be sold in Europe and should fit the design of all other professional machines. In addition considerable part of the newer chipset designs (A3000) were as well done in Germany.
There has been much more development after Commodore International went belly up, but that's a different story. BTW, it might be notable here that in fact Commodore Germany as well as Commodore UK were profitable until the end - and at that time generating about 2/3rd of all business.
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Commodore Germany did in the beginning quite a lot adaptations and variations - like certain models of the PET-II line.
[Insert: Some site history
While the German subsidary (Commodore Büromaschienen GmbH), originally set in Neu-Isenburg near Frankfurt (and later moved into the city), had facilities for import handling and distribution, this was soon moved to a distribution center in Braunschweig and accomplished by a final assembly line and a development center. After 1982 this was the setup until the end.
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The first complete system developed in Germany would be the PC compatible PC-10 of 1984 (Introduction in the US 1986), followed by the Z8000 based CBM-900 of 1985. The 900 was scraped soon after introduction - it is said because of the upcoming Amiga - but the PC series was quite a success in Germany and other countries, running until the very end. Notable here the PC-1 (or Colt in the US). Hardware wise a shrunk PC-10/III developed in Braunschweig on request of Commodore USA to counter the Atari PC1.
The Amiga 1060 sidecar (1986) was as well designed and built in Braunschweig. It does make sense with their experience in PC machines. Similar (AFAIK) the various bridge cards for the Amiga 2000 were made and built in Germany. Now due even more heritage as the 2000 itself was designed in Germany as well.
If you ever wondered why the Amiga 2000 design looks so different from the A1000 as well as any other (US) Commodore, just compare it with the 900 and PC-10. The 2000 was intended to be sold in Europe and should fit the design of all other professional machines. In addition considerable part of the newer chipset designs (A3000) were as well done in Germany.
There has been much more development after Commodore International went belly up, but that's a different story. BTW, it might be notable here that in fact Commodore Germany as well as Commodore UK were profitable until the end - and at that time generating about 2/3rd of all business.
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Commodore Germany did in the beginning quite a lot adaptations and variations - like certain models of the PET-II line.
[Insert: Some site history
While the German subsidary (Commodore Büromaschienen GmbH), originally set in Neu-Isenburg near Frankfurt (and later moved into the city), had facilities for import handling and distribution, this was soon moved to a distribution center in Braunschweig and accomplished by a final assembly line and a development center. After 1982 this was the setup until the end.
]
The first complete system developed in Germany would be the PC compatible PC-10 of 1984 (Introduction in the US 1986), followed by the Z8000 based CBM-900 of 1985. The 900 was scraped soon after introduction - it is said because of the upcoming Amiga - but the PC series was quite a success in Germany and other countries, running until the very end. Notable here the PC-1 (or Colt in the US). Hardware wise a shrunk PC-10/III developed in Braunschweig on request of Commodore USA to counter the Atari PC1.
The Amiga 1060 sidecar (1986) was as well designed and built in Braunschweig. It does make sense with their experience in PC machines. Similar (AFAIK) the various bridge cards for the Amiga 2000 were made and built in Germany. Now due even more heritage as the 2000 itself was designed in Germany as well.
If you ever wondered why the Amiga 2000 design looks so different from the A1000 as well as any other (US) Commodore, just compare it with the 900 and PC-10. The 2000 was intended to be sold in Europe and should fit the design of all other professional machines. In addition considerable part of the newer chipset designs (A3000) were as well done in Germany.
There has been much more development after Commodore International went belly up, but that's a different story. BTW, it might be notable here that in fact Commodore Germany as well as Commodore UK were profitable until the end - and at that time generating about 2/3rd of all business.
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Commodore Germany did in the beginning quite a lot adaptations and variations - like certain models of the PET-II line.
[Insert: Some site history
While the German subsidary (Commodore Büromaschienen GmbH), originally set in Neu-Isenburg near Frankfurt (and later moved into the city), had facilities for import handling and distribution, this was soon moved to a distribution center in Braunschweig and accomplished by a final assembly line and a development center. After 1982 this was the setup until the end.
]
The first complete system developed in Germany would be the PC compatible PC-10 of 1984 (Introduction in the US 1986), followed by the Z8000 based CBM-900 of 1985. The 900 was scraped soon after introduction - it is said because of the upcoming Amiga - but the PC series was quite a success in Germany and other countries, running until the very end. Notable here the PC-1 (or Colt in the US). Hardware wise a shrunk PC-10/III developed in Braunschweig on request of Commodore USA to counter the Atari PC1.
The Amiga 1060 sidecar (1986) was as well designed and built in Braunschweig. It does make sense with their experience in PC machines. Similar (AFAIK) the various bridge cards for the Amiga 2000 were made and built in Germany. Now due even more heritage as the 2000 itself was designed in Germany as well.
If you ever wondered why the Amiga 2000 design looks so different from the A1000 as well as any other (US) Commodore, just compare it with the 900 and PC-10. The 2000 was intended to be sold in Europe and should fit the design of all other professional machines. In addition considerable part of the newer chipset designs (A3000) were as well done in Germany.
There has been much more development after Commodore International went belly up, but that's a different story. BTW, it might be notable here that in fact Commodore Germany as well as Commodore UK were profitable until the end - and at that time generating about 2/3rd of all business.
answered 8 hours ago
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Commodore Germany did in the beginning quite a lot adaptations and variations - like certain models of the PET-II line.
[Insert: Some site history
While the German subsidary (Commodore Büromaschienen GmbH), originally set in Neu-Isenburg near Frankfurt (and later moved into the city), had facilities for import handling and distribution, this was soon moved to a distribution center in Braunschweig and accomplished by a final assembly line and a development center. After 1982 this was the setup until the end.
]
The first complete system developed in Germany would be the PC compatible PC-10 of 1984 (Introduction in the US 1986), followed by the Z8000 based CBM-900 of 1985. The 900 was scraped soon after introduction - it is said because of the upcoming Amiga - but the PC series was quite a success in Germany and other countries, running until the very end. Notable here the PC-1 (or Colt in the US). Hardware wise a shrunk PC-10/III developed in Braunschweig on request of Commodore USA to counter the Atari PC1.
The Amiga 1060 sidecar (1986) was as well designed and built in Braunschweig. It does make sense with their experience in PC machines. Similar (AFAIK) the various bridge cards for the Amiga 2000 were made and built in Germany. Now due even more heritage as the 2000 itself was designed in Germany as well.
If you ever wondered why the Amiga 2000 design looks so different from the A1000 as well as any other (US) Commodore, just compare it with the 900 and PC-10. The 2000 was intended to be sold in Europe and should fit the design of all other professional machines. In addition considerable part of the newer chipset designs (A3000) were as well done in Germany.
There has been much more development after Commodore International went belly up, but that's a different story. BTW, it might be notable here that in fact Commodore Germany as well as Commodore UK were profitable until the end - and at that time generating about 2/3rd of all business.
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Commodore Germany made mainly applications - like variations of the PET-II line. This includes at least one Amiga model and several add on boards. The whole PC line was developed in Braunschweig. From the Colt all the way to PC-70 - including the Amiga 1060 sidecar. The CBM-900 as well.
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