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I am getting the internet connection from my local area ISP. I want to use two routers on this connection: [Router 1] for general mobile device WiFi usage and [Router 2] solely for my PC for online gaming via Ethernet. My reasoning for this is that when I enable WiFi on [Router 2] it gives me high ping spikes while playing online games.



Would LAN-LAN or LAN-WAN be better between the two routers?



Will the internet usage on [Router 1] affect my latency on [Router 2] through which I will be playing online games?



Will the second router get its IP address dynamically just like the first router?










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    Will the ISP be providing you one physical line or two?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • Also, what exactly do you expect the 2nd router to achieve? Is it there just to make the cable longer?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • This is an XY Problem. Unless you have a complete piece of junk router, having WiFi turned on is not going to affect your wired LAN ping times. What CAN affect your ping times are: bad cables; poor internet connection; over utilization of your bandwidth, etc. Your solution is just going to cause more trouble.

    – Appleoddity
    9 hours ago











  • @grawity ISP will be providing one line. Second router for just online gaming and will be connected to my PC only... which means WiFi will be disabled on this 2nd router

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago












  • @Appleoddity the reason i want 2nd router because i want to avoid ping issues on first router because i have experienced it in past if the WiFi is On and few devices are connected to it then you will have insane ping spikes unless you have 50Mbps connection. My second router should be solely for my gaming and the first for other members in the house.

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago

















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I am getting the internet connection from my local area ISP. I want to use two routers on this connection: [Router 1] for general mobile device WiFi usage and [Router 2] solely for my PC for online gaming via Ethernet. My reasoning for this is that when I enable WiFi on [Router 2] it gives me high ping spikes while playing online games.



Would LAN-LAN or LAN-WAN be better between the two routers?



Will the internet usage on [Router 1] affect my latency on [Router 2] through which I will be playing online games?



Will the second router get its IP address dynamically just like the first router?










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  • 2





    Will the ISP be providing you one physical line or two?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • Also, what exactly do you expect the 2nd router to achieve? Is it there just to make the cable longer?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • This is an XY Problem. Unless you have a complete piece of junk router, having WiFi turned on is not going to affect your wired LAN ping times. What CAN affect your ping times are: bad cables; poor internet connection; over utilization of your bandwidth, etc. Your solution is just going to cause more trouble.

    – Appleoddity
    9 hours ago











  • @grawity ISP will be providing one line. Second router for just online gaming and will be connected to my PC only... which means WiFi will be disabled on this 2nd router

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago












  • @Appleoddity the reason i want 2nd router because i want to avoid ping issues on first router because i have experienced it in past if the WiFi is On and few devices are connected to it then you will have insane ping spikes unless you have 50Mbps connection. My second router should be solely for my gaming and the first for other members in the house.

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago













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I am getting the internet connection from my local area ISP. I want to use two routers on this connection: [Router 1] for general mobile device WiFi usage and [Router 2] solely for my PC for online gaming via Ethernet. My reasoning for this is that when I enable WiFi on [Router 2] it gives me high ping spikes while playing online games.



Would LAN-LAN or LAN-WAN be better between the two routers?



Will the internet usage on [Router 1] affect my latency on [Router 2] through which I will be playing online games?



Will the second router get its IP address dynamically just like the first router?










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I am getting the internet connection from my local area ISP. I want to use two routers on this connection: [Router 1] for general mobile device WiFi usage and [Router 2] solely for my PC for online gaming via Ethernet. My reasoning for this is that when I enable WiFi on [Router 2] it gives me high ping spikes while playing online games.



Would LAN-LAN or LAN-WAN be better between the two routers?



Will the internet usage on [Router 1] affect my latency on [Router 2] through which I will be playing online games?



Will the second router get its IP address dynamically just like the first router?







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  • 2





    Will the ISP be providing you one physical line or two?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • Also, what exactly do you expect the 2nd router to achieve? Is it there just to make the cable longer?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • This is an XY Problem. Unless you have a complete piece of junk router, having WiFi turned on is not going to affect your wired LAN ping times. What CAN affect your ping times are: bad cables; poor internet connection; over utilization of your bandwidth, etc. Your solution is just going to cause more trouble.

    – Appleoddity
    9 hours ago











  • @grawity ISP will be providing one line. Second router for just online gaming and will be connected to my PC only... which means WiFi will be disabled on this 2nd router

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago












  • @Appleoddity the reason i want 2nd router because i want to avoid ping issues on first router because i have experienced it in past if the WiFi is On and few devices are connected to it then you will have insane ping spikes unless you have 50Mbps connection. My second router should be solely for my gaming and the first for other members in the house.

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago












  • 2





    Will the ISP be providing you one physical line or two?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • Also, what exactly do you expect the 2nd router to achieve? Is it there just to make the cable longer?

    – grawity
    9 hours ago











  • This is an XY Problem. Unless you have a complete piece of junk router, having WiFi turned on is not going to affect your wired LAN ping times. What CAN affect your ping times are: bad cables; poor internet connection; over utilization of your bandwidth, etc. Your solution is just going to cause more trouble.

    – Appleoddity
    9 hours ago











  • @grawity ISP will be providing one line. Second router for just online gaming and will be connected to my PC only... which means WiFi will be disabled on this 2nd router

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago












  • @Appleoddity the reason i want 2nd router because i want to avoid ping issues on first router because i have experienced it in past if the WiFi is On and few devices are connected to it then you will have insane ping spikes unless you have 50Mbps connection. My second router should be solely for my gaming and the first for other members in the house.

    – Haroon Khan
    9 hours ago







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Will the ISP be providing you one physical line or two?

– grawity
9 hours ago





Will the ISP be providing you one physical line or two?

– grawity
9 hours ago













Also, what exactly do you expect the 2nd router to achieve? Is it there just to make the cable longer?

– grawity
9 hours ago





Also, what exactly do you expect the 2nd router to achieve? Is it there just to make the cable longer?

– grawity
9 hours ago













This is an XY Problem. Unless you have a complete piece of junk router, having WiFi turned on is not going to affect your wired LAN ping times. What CAN affect your ping times are: bad cables; poor internet connection; over utilization of your bandwidth, etc. Your solution is just going to cause more trouble.

– Appleoddity
9 hours ago





This is an XY Problem. Unless you have a complete piece of junk router, having WiFi turned on is not going to affect your wired LAN ping times. What CAN affect your ping times are: bad cables; poor internet connection; over utilization of your bandwidth, etc. Your solution is just going to cause more trouble.

– Appleoddity
9 hours ago













@grawity ISP will be providing one line. Second router for just online gaming and will be connected to my PC only... which means WiFi will be disabled on this 2nd router

– Haroon Khan
9 hours ago






@grawity ISP will be providing one line. Second router for just online gaming and will be connected to my PC only... which means WiFi will be disabled on this 2nd router

– Haroon Khan
9 hours ago














@Appleoddity the reason i want 2nd router because i want to avoid ping issues on first router because i have experienced it in past if the WiFi is On and few devices are connected to it then you will have insane ping spikes unless you have 50Mbps connection. My second router should be solely for my gaming and the first for other members in the house.

– Haroon Khan
9 hours ago





@Appleoddity the reason i want 2nd router because i want to avoid ping issues on first router because i have experienced it in past if the WiFi is On and few devices are connected to it then you will have insane ping spikes unless you have 50Mbps connection. My second router should be solely for my gaming and the first for other members in the house.

– Haroon Khan
9 hours ago










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To give your computer the priority on bandwidth, it should be connected to the
first router.



The second router for WiFi should be connected to the first one by LAN-to-WAN,
as this will make your computer an equal partner to the entire [Router 2]
sub-network, so the computer will always be able to use at least 50% of the bandwidth for itself.



[Router 2] should also be a DHCP server, since its sub-network will be
completely isolated from your computer.



If the first router supports
Quality of service(QoS),
it can be configured to give your computer the absolute priority
when required - so during heavy gaming sessions your computer may use up to whatever bandwidth limit you have set (100% is likely too high so an 80% cap might be better).






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  • I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

    – mael'
    7 hours ago











  • If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

    – harrymc
    7 hours ago












  • Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago


















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Yes it will. It's a shared resource.




I want to keep WiFi disabled on router#2 so that just one PC is connected to it using Ethernet cable.




That makes the second router completely useless.



Routers do not get special priority in a network; they are just ordinary network devices. It doesn't matter if your PC is connected via router2 or directly – eventually it still goes through router1, so it has to share router1's capacity in exactly the same way. If router1 uses a bad queueing algorithm, or if its CPU is overwhelmed by traffic, router2 can't do a thing about it.



The same goes for your whole Internet connection. If it's the bottleneck, then it won't gain extra capacity nor a "dedicated lane" just because you have more routers.



Instead, you should figure out why the latency spikes occur. (It most likely is a problem with router 1 and not with the uplink connection.) Try swapping the two routers, if the 2nd is more powerful. Try to correlate the spikes with a specific device being connected, and with a specific program running on it. Research "Bufferbloat". If there's something using 100% of your upload bandwidth (e.g. a laptop seeding 100s of torrents), limit it to 90%. Etc.






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  • I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

    – Haroon Khan
    8 hours ago












  • "I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

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If I am reading this correctly - you want to use one router as a wireless access point and the other router for wired only connections.



As you only have one connection to your ISP one of these routers will need to plug into the other - and that will be a LAN to LAN connection. I'd suggest the one being used as a wireless access point is plugged into the other router and that router does the LAN to WAN to the ISP connection.



I'm not sure this will be of much benefit to you though. You will get exactly the same contention for bandwidth as just using one router.



One good router, with QoS tools to enable you to prioritise traffic on the port the gaming PC plugs into would probably give you better results.






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To give your computer the priority on bandwidth, it should be connected to the
first router.



The second router for WiFi should be connected to the first one by LAN-to-WAN,
as this will make your computer an equal partner to the entire [Router 2]
sub-network, so the computer will always be able to use at least 50% of the bandwidth for itself.



[Router 2] should also be a DHCP server, since its sub-network will be
completely isolated from your computer.



If the first router supports
Quality of service(QoS),
it can be configured to give your computer the absolute priority
when required - so during heavy gaming sessions your computer may use up to whatever bandwidth limit you have set (100% is likely too high so an 80% cap might be better).






share|improve this answer

























  • I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

    – mael'
    7 hours ago











  • If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

    – harrymc
    7 hours ago












  • Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago















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To give your computer the priority on bandwidth, it should be connected to the
first router.



The second router for WiFi should be connected to the first one by LAN-to-WAN,
as this will make your computer an equal partner to the entire [Router 2]
sub-network, so the computer will always be able to use at least 50% of the bandwidth for itself.



[Router 2] should also be a DHCP server, since its sub-network will be
completely isolated from your computer.



If the first router supports
Quality of service(QoS),
it can be configured to give your computer the absolute priority
when required - so during heavy gaming sessions your computer may use up to whatever bandwidth limit you have set (100% is likely too high so an 80% cap might be better).






share|improve this answer

























  • I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

    – mael'
    7 hours ago











  • If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

    – harrymc
    7 hours ago












  • Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago













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To give your computer the priority on bandwidth, it should be connected to the
first router.



The second router for WiFi should be connected to the first one by LAN-to-WAN,
as this will make your computer an equal partner to the entire [Router 2]
sub-network, so the computer will always be able to use at least 50% of the bandwidth for itself.



[Router 2] should also be a DHCP server, since its sub-network will be
completely isolated from your computer.



If the first router supports
Quality of service(QoS),
it can be configured to give your computer the absolute priority
when required - so during heavy gaming sessions your computer may use up to whatever bandwidth limit you have set (100% is likely too high so an 80% cap might be better).






share|improve this answer















To give your computer the priority on bandwidth, it should be connected to the
first router.



The second router for WiFi should be connected to the first one by LAN-to-WAN,
as this will make your computer an equal partner to the entire [Router 2]
sub-network, so the computer will always be able to use at least 50% of the bandwidth for itself.



[Router 2] should also be a DHCP server, since its sub-network will be
completely isolated from your computer.



If the first router supports
Quality of service(QoS),
it can be configured to give your computer the absolute priority
when required - so during heavy gaming sessions your computer may use up to whatever bandwidth limit you have set (100% is likely too high so an 80% cap might be better).







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  • I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

    – mael'
    7 hours ago











  • If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

    – harrymc
    7 hours ago












  • Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago

















  • I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago











  • They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

    – mael'
    7 hours ago











  • If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

    – harrymc
    7 hours ago












  • Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago
















I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

– Haroon Khan
7 hours ago





I will definitely try this. I will let you know if it worked. Thank You

– Haroon Khan
7 hours ago













One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

– Haroon Khan
7 hours ago





One more thing if you could clear for me. I also explained this to my ISP and they said they will configure it for me so that i will get ex. 10Mbps on router#1 and 5mbps on router#2,so there will be no issue of bandwidth sharing. Is it really possible for them?

– Haroon Khan
7 hours ago













They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

– mael'
7 hours ago





They can certainly allocate more bandwidth on your line, but I'm not sure how they could limit that to your own subnets unless they have access to your routers.

– mael'
7 hours ago













If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

– harrymc
7 hours ago






If router#1 is their router they might be able to configure QoS on it from their side. But I dislike very much the idea that someone can traffic your setup from the exterior. You should ask them how they will do it, then, if that's the case, disable that hole in your defenses. Otherwise, that's just rubbish talk.

– harrymc
7 hours ago














Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

– Haroon Khan
7 hours ago





Okay, so after all these answers from you guys i think its impossible for me to achieve what i want to. The second router will obviously share bandwidth and will not act as i want it to. I guess i would prefer a separate line from my ISP. It would cost me more but i think would be better overall for other users in house and also for my gaming experience. Thank you for your help @harrymc

– Haroon Khan
7 hours ago













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Yes it will. It's a shared resource.




I want to keep WiFi disabled on router#2 so that just one PC is connected to it using Ethernet cable.




That makes the second router completely useless.



Routers do not get special priority in a network; they are just ordinary network devices. It doesn't matter if your PC is connected via router2 or directly – eventually it still goes through router1, so it has to share router1's capacity in exactly the same way. If router1 uses a bad queueing algorithm, or if its CPU is overwhelmed by traffic, router2 can't do a thing about it.



The same goes for your whole Internet connection. If it's the bottleneck, then it won't gain extra capacity nor a "dedicated lane" just because you have more routers.



Instead, you should figure out why the latency spikes occur. (It most likely is a problem with router 1 and not with the uplink connection.) Try swapping the two routers, if the 2nd is more powerful. Try to correlate the spikes with a specific device being connected, and with a specific program running on it. Research "Bufferbloat". If there's something using 100% of your upload bandwidth (e.g. a laptop seeding 100s of torrents), limit it to 90%. Etc.






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  • I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

    – Haroon Khan
    8 hours ago












  • "I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago















2














Yes it will. It's a shared resource.




I want to keep WiFi disabled on router#2 so that just one PC is connected to it using Ethernet cable.




That makes the second router completely useless.



Routers do not get special priority in a network; they are just ordinary network devices. It doesn't matter if your PC is connected via router2 or directly – eventually it still goes through router1, so it has to share router1's capacity in exactly the same way. If router1 uses a bad queueing algorithm, or if its CPU is overwhelmed by traffic, router2 can't do a thing about it.



The same goes for your whole Internet connection. If it's the bottleneck, then it won't gain extra capacity nor a "dedicated lane" just because you have more routers.



Instead, you should figure out why the latency spikes occur. (It most likely is a problem with router 1 and not with the uplink connection.) Try swapping the two routers, if the 2nd is more powerful. Try to correlate the spikes with a specific device being connected, and with a specific program running on it. Research "Bufferbloat". If there's something using 100% of your upload bandwidth (e.g. a laptop seeding 100s of torrents), limit it to 90%. Etc.






share|improve this answer























  • I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

    – Haroon Khan
    8 hours ago












  • "I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago













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2







Yes it will. It's a shared resource.




I want to keep WiFi disabled on router#2 so that just one PC is connected to it using Ethernet cable.




That makes the second router completely useless.



Routers do not get special priority in a network; they are just ordinary network devices. It doesn't matter if your PC is connected via router2 or directly – eventually it still goes through router1, so it has to share router1's capacity in exactly the same way. If router1 uses a bad queueing algorithm, or if its CPU is overwhelmed by traffic, router2 can't do a thing about it.



The same goes for your whole Internet connection. If it's the bottleneck, then it won't gain extra capacity nor a "dedicated lane" just because you have more routers.



Instead, you should figure out why the latency spikes occur. (It most likely is a problem with router 1 and not with the uplink connection.) Try swapping the two routers, if the 2nd is more powerful. Try to correlate the spikes with a specific device being connected, and with a specific program running on it. Research "Bufferbloat". If there's something using 100% of your upload bandwidth (e.g. a laptop seeding 100s of torrents), limit it to 90%. Etc.






share|improve this answer













Yes it will. It's a shared resource.




I want to keep WiFi disabled on router#2 so that just one PC is connected to it using Ethernet cable.




That makes the second router completely useless.



Routers do not get special priority in a network; they are just ordinary network devices. It doesn't matter if your PC is connected via router2 or directly – eventually it still goes through router1, so it has to share router1's capacity in exactly the same way. If router1 uses a bad queueing algorithm, or if its CPU is overwhelmed by traffic, router2 can't do a thing about it.



The same goes for your whole Internet connection. If it's the bottleneck, then it won't gain extra capacity nor a "dedicated lane" just because you have more routers.



Instead, you should figure out why the latency spikes occur. (It most likely is a problem with router 1 and not with the uplink connection.) Try swapping the two routers, if the 2nd is more powerful. Try to correlate the spikes with a specific device being connected, and with a specific program running on it. Research "Bufferbloat". If there's something using 100% of your upload bandwidth (e.g. a laptop seeding 100s of torrents), limit it to 90%. Etc.







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  • I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

    – Haroon Khan
    8 hours ago












  • "I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago

















  • I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

    – Haroon Khan
    8 hours ago












  • "I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago











  • "my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

    – grawity
    8 hours ago
















I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

– Haroon Khan
8 hours ago






I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC. Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to? my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them. Or is it?

– Haroon Khan
8 hours ago














"I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

– grawity
8 hours ago





"I am not trying to extend the network or WiFi signals by connecting the second router. It is intended to turn off WiFi on second router and just use its LAN port for wired connection to PC." -- but that's literally the same thing as extending the network.

– grawity
8 hours ago













"Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

– grawity
8 hours ago





"Just confused if routers do act like that or not the way i want them to?" -- no, they do not.

– grawity
8 hours ago













"my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

– grawity
8 hours ago





"my ISP said they will divide my total bandwidth into two routers, which i think is not possible because of single line from them" -- no, it will not be a "fixed" division like 50:50 or anything like that. The line's bandwidth will be shared between all devices that are connected, regardless of them being routers or computers.

– grawity
8 hours ago











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If I am reading this correctly - you want to use one router as a wireless access point and the other router for wired only connections.



As you only have one connection to your ISP one of these routers will need to plug into the other - and that will be a LAN to LAN connection. I'd suggest the one being used as a wireless access point is plugged into the other router and that router does the LAN to WAN to the ISP connection.



I'm not sure this will be of much benefit to you though. You will get exactly the same contention for bandwidth as just using one router.



One good router, with QoS tools to enable you to prioritise traffic on the port the gaming PC plugs into would probably give you better results.






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  • Yes you understood it correctly. I will give it a try!

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If I am reading this correctly - you want to use one router as a wireless access point and the other router for wired only connections.



As you only have one connection to your ISP one of these routers will need to plug into the other - and that will be a LAN to LAN connection. I'd suggest the one being used as a wireless access point is plugged into the other router and that router does the LAN to WAN to the ISP connection.



I'm not sure this will be of much benefit to you though. You will get exactly the same contention for bandwidth as just using one router.



One good router, with QoS tools to enable you to prioritise traffic on the port the gaming PC plugs into would probably give you better results.






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  • Yes you understood it correctly. I will give it a try!

    – Haroon Khan
    7 hours ago













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If I am reading this correctly - you want to use one router as a wireless access point and the other router for wired only connections.



As you only have one connection to your ISP one of these routers will need to plug into the other - and that will be a LAN to LAN connection. I'd suggest the one being used as a wireless access point is plugged into the other router and that router does the LAN to WAN to the ISP connection.



I'm not sure this will be of much benefit to you though. You will get exactly the same contention for bandwidth as just using one router.



One good router, with QoS tools to enable you to prioritise traffic on the port the gaming PC plugs into would probably give you better results.






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If I am reading this correctly - you want to use one router as a wireless access point and the other router for wired only connections.



As you only have one connection to your ISP one of these routers will need to plug into the other - and that will be a LAN to LAN connection. I'd suggest the one being used as a wireless access point is plugged into the other router and that router does the LAN to WAN to the ISP connection.



I'm not sure this will be of much benefit to you though. You will get exactly the same contention for bandwidth as just using one router.



One good router, with QoS tools to enable you to prioritise traffic on the port the gaming PC plugs into would probably give you better results.







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