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I have an abstract parent class with some dependency and a default implementation.
The constructors might look like:



 public abstract class ParentClass 
protected SomeDependency someDependency;

public ParentClass(SomeDependency someDependency)
this.someDependency = someDependency;






The dependency itself is a virtual class with methods that might be overridden, for example:



public virtual class SomeDependency 
public virtual void doSomething()
System.debug('#### SomeDependency');




The dependency has an extension:



public class ChildDependency extends SomeDependency 
public override void doSomething()
System.debug('#### ChildDependency ');




And the child of the original abstract parent looks like this:



public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
public ChildClass()
super(new ChildDependency());


public doSomething()
super.someDependency.doSomething();




In this context, I intended that "super" means that "someDependency" lives on the Parent instead of the current object.



However, when I execute this code, I get:




SomeDependency


Which tells me the code is actually interpreting this to mean the parent of ChildDependency.



If I change super.someDependency.doSomething(); to this.someDependency.doSomething();



the code works as I originally expected it to, BUT now the code is "lying" to me because someDependency is actually an instance which lives on the parent and I'd like to make that obvious in my code.



Is there a way I can make my code express this properly?










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    is SomeDependency someDependency; protected?#

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • This sounds so weird, ideally the method should be called for the instance that was present. If childDependency instance was passed child method should have been called

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • have you tried raising a case with SF?

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    6 hours ago

















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I have an abstract parent class with some dependency and a default implementation.
The constructors might look like:



 public abstract class ParentClass 
protected SomeDependency someDependency;

public ParentClass(SomeDependency someDependency)
this.someDependency = someDependency;






The dependency itself is a virtual class with methods that might be overridden, for example:



public virtual class SomeDependency 
public virtual void doSomething()
System.debug('#### SomeDependency');




The dependency has an extension:



public class ChildDependency extends SomeDependency 
public override void doSomething()
System.debug('#### ChildDependency ');




And the child of the original abstract parent looks like this:



public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
public ChildClass()
super(new ChildDependency());


public doSomething()
super.someDependency.doSomething();




In this context, I intended that "super" means that "someDependency" lives on the Parent instead of the current object.



However, when I execute this code, I get:




SomeDependency


Which tells me the code is actually interpreting this to mean the parent of ChildDependency.



If I change super.someDependency.doSomething(); to this.someDependency.doSomething();



the code works as I originally expected it to, BUT now the code is "lying" to me because someDependency is actually an instance which lives on the parent and I'd like to make that obvious in my code.



Is there a way I can make my code express this properly?










share|improve this question



















  • 1





    is SomeDependency someDependency; protected?#

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • This sounds so weird, ideally the method should be called for the instance that was present. If childDependency instance was passed child method should have been called

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • have you tried raising a case with SF?

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    6 hours ago













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I have an abstract parent class with some dependency and a default implementation.
The constructors might look like:



 public abstract class ParentClass 
protected SomeDependency someDependency;

public ParentClass(SomeDependency someDependency)
this.someDependency = someDependency;






The dependency itself is a virtual class with methods that might be overridden, for example:



public virtual class SomeDependency 
public virtual void doSomething()
System.debug('#### SomeDependency');




The dependency has an extension:



public class ChildDependency extends SomeDependency 
public override void doSomething()
System.debug('#### ChildDependency ');




And the child of the original abstract parent looks like this:



public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
public ChildClass()
super(new ChildDependency());


public doSomething()
super.someDependency.doSomething();




In this context, I intended that "super" means that "someDependency" lives on the Parent instead of the current object.



However, when I execute this code, I get:




SomeDependency


Which tells me the code is actually interpreting this to mean the parent of ChildDependency.



If I change super.someDependency.doSomething(); to this.someDependency.doSomething();



the code works as I originally expected it to, BUT now the code is "lying" to me because someDependency is actually an instance which lives on the parent and I'd like to make that obvious in my code.



Is there a way I can make my code express this properly?










share|improve this question
















I have an abstract parent class with some dependency and a default implementation.
The constructors might look like:



 public abstract class ParentClass 
protected SomeDependency someDependency;

public ParentClass(SomeDependency someDependency)
this.someDependency = someDependency;






The dependency itself is a virtual class with methods that might be overridden, for example:



public virtual class SomeDependency 
public virtual void doSomething()
System.debug('#### SomeDependency');




The dependency has an extension:



public class ChildDependency extends SomeDependency 
public override void doSomething()
System.debug('#### ChildDependency ');




And the child of the original abstract parent looks like this:



public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
public ChildClass()
super(new ChildDependency());


public doSomething()
super.someDependency.doSomething();




In this context, I intended that "super" means that "someDependency" lives on the Parent instead of the current object.



However, when I execute this code, I get:




SomeDependency


Which tells me the code is actually interpreting this to mean the parent of ChildDependency.



If I change super.someDependency.doSomething(); to this.someDependency.doSomething();



the code works as I originally expected it to, BUT now the code is "lying" to me because someDependency is actually an instance which lives on the parent and I'd like to make that obvious in my code.



Is there a way I can make my code express this properly?







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  • 1





    is SomeDependency someDependency; protected?#

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • This sounds so weird, ideally the method should be called for the instance that was present. If childDependency instance was passed child method should have been called

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • have you tried raising a case with SF?

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    6 hours ago












  • 1





    is SomeDependency someDependency; protected?#

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • This sounds so weird, ideally the method should be called for the instance that was present. If childDependency instance was passed child method should have been called

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    8 hours ago











  • have you tried raising a case with SF?

    – Pranay Jaiswal
    6 hours ago







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is SomeDependency someDependency; protected?#

– Pranay Jaiswal
8 hours ago





is SomeDependency someDependency; protected?#

– Pranay Jaiswal
8 hours ago













This sounds so weird, ideally the method should be called for the instance that was present. If childDependency instance was passed child method should have been called

– Pranay Jaiswal
8 hours ago





This sounds so weird, ideally the method should be called for the instance that was present. If childDependency instance was passed child method should have been called

– Pranay Jaiswal
8 hours ago













have you tried raising a case with SF?

– Pranay Jaiswal
6 hours ago





have you tried raising a case with SF?

– Pranay Jaiswal
6 hours ago










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Sounds a bug to me, the instance is still of ChildDependency I confirmed it using debug logs.



public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
public ChildClass()
super(new ChildDependency());


public void doSomething()
System.debug( this.someDependency);
System.debug( super.someDependency);
this.someDependency.doSomething();
super.someDependency.doSomething();




Execute Anon : new ChildClass().doSomething();



DEUBG:



17:53:16.60 (131753925)|USER_DEBUG|[7]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
17:53:16.60 (131775245)|USER_DEBUG|[8]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
17:53:16.60 (131813593)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### ChildDependency
17:53:16.60 (131834856)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### SomeDependency


Edit 1: I replicated the same behavior in Java in case anyone wanna do it and its behaving as expected.
Java Code demo : https://repl.it/repls/SmugFlawlessUnderstanding



I have a feeling Salesforce Apex Engine uses Java Reflection Like engine to call Apex Methods instead of running Compiled Apex Natively on their servers.



Edit 2: A friend of mine(Thanks Anshul) managed to get it to work by using some unique Syntax.



public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 

public ChildClass()
super(new ChildDependency());


public void doSomething()
System.debug( this.someDependency);
System.debug( super.someDependency);
this.someDependency.doSomething();
(super.someDependency).doSomething();




Yes , (super.someDependency).doSomething(); makes code do what it's supposed to do. Now I wonder if Salesforce uses String parsing to determine keywords and then run Apex code.






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    Sounds a bug to me, the instance is still of ChildDependency I confirmed it using debug logs.



    public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
    public ChildClass()
    super(new ChildDependency());


    public void doSomething()
    System.debug( this.someDependency);
    System.debug( super.someDependency);
    this.someDependency.doSomething();
    super.someDependency.doSomething();




    Execute Anon : new ChildClass().doSomething();



    DEUBG:



    17:53:16.60 (131753925)|USER_DEBUG|[7]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
    17:53:16.60 (131775245)|USER_DEBUG|[8]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
    17:53:16.60 (131813593)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### ChildDependency
    17:53:16.60 (131834856)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### SomeDependency


    Edit 1: I replicated the same behavior in Java in case anyone wanna do it and its behaving as expected.
    Java Code demo : https://repl.it/repls/SmugFlawlessUnderstanding



    I have a feeling Salesforce Apex Engine uses Java Reflection Like engine to call Apex Methods instead of running Compiled Apex Natively on their servers.



    Edit 2: A friend of mine(Thanks Anshul) managed to get it to work by using some unique Syntax.



    public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 

    public ChildClass()
    super(new ChildDependency());


    public void doSomething()
    System.debug( this.someDependency);
    System.debug( super.someDependency);
    this.someDependency.doSomething();
    (super.someDependency).doSomething();




    Yes , (super.someDependency).doSomething(); makes code do what it's supposed to do. Now I wonder if Salesforce uses String parsing to determine keywords and then run Apex code.






    share|improve this answer





























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      Sounds a bug to me, the instance is still of ChildDependency I confirmed it using debug logs.



      public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
      public ChildClass()
      super(new ChildDependency());


      public void doSomething()
      System.debug( this.someDependency);
      System.debug( super.someDependency);
      this.someDependency.doSomething();
      super.someDependency.doSomething();




      Execute Anon : new ChildClass().doSomething();



      DEUBG:



      17:53:16.60 (131753925)|USER_DEBUG|[7]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
      17:53:16.60 (131775245)|USER_DEBUG|[8]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
      17:53:16.60 (131813593)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### ChildDependency
      17:53:16.60 (131834856)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### SomeDependency


      Edit 1: I replicated the same behavior in Java in case anyone wanna do it and its behaving as expected.
      Java Code demo : https://repl.it/repls/SmugFlawlessUnderstanding



      I have a feeling Salesforce Apex Engine uses Java Reflection Like engine to call Apex Methods instead of running Compiled Apex Natively on their servers.



      Edit 2: A friend of mine(Thanks Anshul) managed to get it to work by using some unique Syntax.



      public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 

      public ChildClass()
      super(new ChildDependency());


      public void doSomething()
      System.debug( this.someDependency);
      System.debug( super.someDependency);
      this.someDependency.doSomething();
      (super.someDependency).doSomething();




      Yes , (super.someDependency).doSomething(); makes code do what it's supposed to do. Now I wonder if Salesforce uses String parsing to determine keywords and then run Apex code.






      share|improve this answer



























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        Sounds a bug to me, the instance is still of ChildDependency I confirmed it using debug logs.



        public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
        public ChildClass()
        super(new ChildDependency());


        public void doSomething()
        System.debug( this.someDependency);
        System.debug( super.someDependency);
        this.someDependency.doSomething();
        super.someDependency.doSomething();




        Execute Anon : new ChildClass().doSomething();



        DEUBG:



        17:53:16.60 (131753925)|USER_DEBUG|[7]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
        17:53:16.60 (131775245)|USER_DEBUG|[8]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
        17:53:16.60 (131813593)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### ChildDependency
        17:53:16.60 (131834856)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### SomeDependency


        Edit 1: I replicated the same behavior in Java in case anyone wanna do it and its behaving as expected.
        Java Code demo : https://repl.it/repls/SmugFlawlessUnderstanding



        I have a feeling Salesforce Apex Engine uses Java Reflection Like engine to call Apex Methods instead of running Compiled Apex Natively on their servers.



        Edit 2: A friend of mine(Thanks Anshul) managed to get it to work by using some unique Syntax.



        public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 

        public ChildClass()
        super(new ChildDependency());


        public void doSomething()
        System.debug( this.someDependency);
        System.debug( super.someDependency);
        this.someDependency.doSomething();
        (super.someDependency).doSomething();




        Yes , (super.someDependency).doSomething(); makes code do what it's supposed to do. Now I wonder if Salesforce uses String parsing to determine keywords and then run Apex code.






        share|improve this answer















        Sounds a bug to me, the instance is still of ChildDependency I confirmed it using debug logs.



        public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 
        public ChildClass()
        super(new ChildDependency());


        public void doSomething()
        System.debug( this.someDependency);
        System.debug( super.someDependency);
        this.someDependency.doSomething();
        super.someDependency.doSomething();




        Execute Anon : new ChildClass().doSomething();



        DEUBG:



        17:53:16.60 (131753925)|USER_DEBUG|[7]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
        17:53:16.60 (131775245)|USER_DEBUG|[8]|DEBUG|ChildDependency:[]
        17:53:16.60 (131813593)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### ChildDependency
        17:53:16.60 (131834856)|USER_DEBUG|[4]|DEBUG|#### SomeDependency


        Edit 1: I replicated the same behavior in Java in case anyone wanna do it and its behaving as expected.
        Java Code demo : https://repl.it/repls/SmugFlawlessUnderstanding



        I have a feeling Salesforce Apex Engine uses Java Reflection Like engine to call Apex Methods instead of running Compiled Apex Natively on their servers.



        Edit 2: A friend of mine(Thanks Anshul) managed to get it to work by using some unique Syntax.



        public class ChildClass extends ParentClass 

        public ChildClass()
        super(new ChildDependency());


        public void doSomething()
        System.debug( this.someDependency);
        System.debug( super.someDependency);
        this.someDependency.doSomething();
        (super.someDependency).doSomething();




        Yes , (super.someDependency).doSomething(); makes code do what it's supposed to do. Now I wonder if Salesforce uses String parsing to determine keywords and then run Apex code.







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