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Should one tell their boss before looking for a new position, if one feel hard to replace and underpaid?
How should I properly approach my boss if I'm feeling underpaid?How to bring up the compensation aspect in discussion with my boss?Should I tell my boss I have started looking for a new job because I think my salary is too low?How to ask for a raise when I feel underpaid after the company grewSalary after appraisalHow to negotiate salary twice in a single year? Is this kosher?Salary increase - how long of a wait is too long?Promotion has been dangled like a carrot on a stick, time to move out and up?Can I renegotiate my salary as the offer letter signed was 4 months backSalary Negotiation After Raise 6 Months Ago
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I just had my salary negotiation yesterday and my chief said my performance this year was great, I fit well with the team, they didn't expect that, etc... Yet I will not get any raise this year. I will eventually get one, but not this year as I freshly joined the company and I am still young.
Now, I feel that I kind of took a step back joining this company. A few years ago, I was a Team lead in another company with 20 buyers under me. I know that I would have earned some 50-60k if I had stayed there one more year, but because I had to change country for personal reasons, I left my position and company.
Last year I settled for this position as this job is next to my home town and family and as it is in the branch I wanted to work in.
Still I feel underpaid (42k)and feel I could easily find a better paying job somewhere else.
All of my colleagues are older and obviously the age is more important than the skills. I can definitely understand that they want to increase salary with company experience, yet I feel like if I had joined the company 10 years later and done the exact same thing (with same performance) I would have been paid more.
Should I tell my boss I feel underpaid and undervalued and that I was expecting a raise after my first year already when joining (even though I didn't expressly mention it). Or should I keep silent until I get another job offer to show them that they might lose me if they don't move?
The chief said they only have a certain amount to dispense for the salary increase each year. I am hoping that I can make them think about me more for the next salary increase batch, if I tell them I am highly unhappy with my current salary
I don't really want to leave but I don't want to wait for 5-10 years to get 50k as I newly have a family to carë for.
Note:
1)My chief is not the CEO, this is a 15k employees company. I believe my boss got told that he couldn't give me a raise as I freshly joined.
2)I just replaced an old guy who was said to perform super well, I am not far from his performance, and it would be quite hard to replace me due to the skills needed. I believe they took a long time to find me
3) The only colleague who could replace me, If I had to leave, will retire in some 3 years. As I wrote, we are not easy to replace.
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I just had my salary negotiation yesterday and my chief said my performance this year was great, I fit well with the team, they didn't expect that, etc... Yet I will not get any raise this year. I will eventually get one, but not this year as I freshly joined the company and I am still young.
Now, I feel that I kind of took a step back joining this company. A few years ago, I was a Team lead in another company with 20 buyers under me. I know that I would have earned some 50-60k if I had stayed there one more year, but because I had to change country for personal reasons, I left my position and company.
Last year I settled for this position as this job is next to my home town and family and as it is in the branch I wanted to work in.
Still I feel underpaid (42k)and feel I could easily find a better paying job somewhere else.
All of my colleagues are older and obviously the age is more important than the skills. I can definitely understand that they want to increase salary with company experience, yet I feel like if I had joined the company 10 years later and done the exact same thing (with same performance) I would have been paid more.
Should I tell my boss I feel underpaid and undervalued and that I was expecting a raise after my first year already when joining (even though I didn't expressly mention it). Or should I keep silent until I get another job offer to show them that they might lose me if they don't move?
The chief said they only have a certain amount to dispense for the salary increase each year. I am hoping that I can make them think about me more for the next salary increase batch, if I tell them I am highly unhappy with my current salary
I don't really want to leave but I don't want to wait for 5-10 years to get 50k as I newly have a family to carë for.
Note:
1)My chief is not the CEO, this is a 15k employees company. I believe my boss got told that he couldn't give me a raise as I freshly joined.
2)I just replaced an old guy who was said to perform super well, I am not far from his performance, and it would be quite hard to replace me due to the skills needed. I believe they took a long time to find me
3) The only colleague who could replace me, If I had to leave, will retire in some 3 years. As I wrote, we are not easy to replace.
salary negotiation france
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I just had my salary negotiation yesterday and my chief said my performance this year was great, I fit well with the team, they didn't expect that, etc... Yet I will not get any raise this year. I will eventually get one, but not this year as I freshly joined the company and I am still young.
Now, I feel that I kind of took a step back joining this company. A few years ago, I was a Team lead in another company with 20 buyers under me. I know that I would have earned some 50-60k if I had stayed there one more year, but because I had to change country for personal reasons, I left my position and company.
Last year I settled for this position as this job is next to my home town and family and as it is in the branch I wanted to work in.
Still I feel underpaid (42k)and feel I could easily find a better paying job somewhere else.
All of my colleagues are older and obviously the age is more important than the skills. I can definitely understand that they want to increase salary with company experience, yet I feel like if I had joined the company 10 years later and done the exact same thing (with same performance) I would have been paid more.
Should I tell my boss I feel underpaid and undervalued and that I was expecting a raise after my first year already when joining (even though I didn't expressly mention it). Or should I keep silent until I get another job offer to show them that they might lose me if they don't move?
The chief said they only have a certain amount to dispense for the salary increase each year. I am hoping that I can make them think about me more for the next salary increase batch, if I tell them I am highly unhappy with my current salary
I don't really want to leave but I don't want to wait for 5-10 years to get 50k as I newly have a family to carë for.
Note:
1)My chief is not the CEO, this is a 15k employees company. I believe my boss got told that he couldn't give me a raise as I freshly joined.
2)I just replaced an old guy who was said to perform super well, I am not far from his performance, and it would be quite hard to replace me due to the skills needed. I believe they took a long time to find me
3) The only colleague who could replace me, If I had to leave, will retire in some 3 years. As I wrote, we are not easy to replace.
salary negotiation france
I just had my salary negotiation yesterday and my chief said my performance this year was great, I fit well with the team, they didn't expect that, etc... Yet I will not get any raise this year. I will eventually get one, but not this year as I freshly joined the company and I am still young.
Now, I feel that I kind of took a step back joining this company. A few years ago, I was a Team lead in another company with 20 buyers under me. I know that I would have earned some 50-60k if I had stayed there one more year, but because I had to change country for personal reasons, I left my position and company.
Last year I settled for this position as this job is next to my home town and family and as it is in the branch I wanted to work in.
Still I feel underpaid (42k)and feel I could easily find a better paying job somewhere else.
All of my colleagues are older and obviously the age is more important than the skills. I can definitely understand that they want to increase salary with company experience, yet I feel like if I had joined the company 10 years later and done the exact same thing (with same performance) I would have been paid more.
Should I tell my boss I feel underpaid and undervalued and that I was expecting a raise after my first year already when joining (even though I didn't expressly mention it). Or should I keep silent until I get another job offer to show them that they might lose me if they don't move?
The chief said they only have a certain amount to dispense for the salary increase each year. I am hoping that I can make them think about me more for the next salary increase batch, if I tell them I am highly unhappy with my current salary
I don't really want to leave but I don't want to wait for 5-10 years to get 50k as I newly have a family to carë for.
Note:
1)My chief is not the CEO, this is a 15k employees company. I believe my boss got told that he couldn't give me a raise as I freshly joined.
2)I just replaced an old guy who was said to perform super well, I am not far from his performance, and it would be quite hard to replace me due to the skills needed. I believe they took a long time to find me
3) The only colleague who could replace me, If I had to leave, will retire in some 3 years. As I wrote, we are not easy to replace.
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What you need to keep in mind is that you made a decision to join the company with the current renumeration and current role. No longer being in charge of 20 employees and missing out on 60k is a personal thing that you should have dealt with before accepting the offer. It is not your new company's fault you accepted the conditions of employment.
If this is an annual review that takes place, it's not surprising they have a policy of no raises in the first year. You should formally ask for a non-annual salary review which will be a seperate process. Annual salary review usually looks at performance. Non-annual salary review will look at prevailing employment conditions too. That's generally how these things work.
If you want to transition into a leadership role, and into more money, that is something you should certainly discuss with your chief. Having said that, you chief isn't likely to care about whatever assumptions you had regarding salary increases.
Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
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In my experience, once your current boss has made it clear that you won't be getting a raise any time soon, despite his praise for your excellent performance, the only/best way for you to get your raise is to find a better paying job elsewhere. Every year you wait for some vaguely promised raise to materialize "next year" is another year you work for less than you're actually worth.
Also, you cannot be any clearer in your message (that you feel undervalued) than by getting a better offer elsewhere and handing in your notice/resignation shortly after being denied a raise.
For me at least, merely telling my boss that I felt under-valued never resulted in more than yet another vague promise of future raises that would in the end never materialize.
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What you need to keep in mind is that you made a decision to join the company with the current renumeration and current role. No longer being in charge of 20 employees and missing out on 60k is a personal thing that you should have dealt with before accepting the offer. It is not your new company's fault you accepted the conditions of employment.
If this is an annual review that takes place, it's not surprising they have a policy of no raises in the first year. You should formally ask for a non-annual salary review which will be a seperate process. Annual salary review usually looks at performance. Non-annual salary review will look at prevailing employment conditions too. That's generally how these things work.
If you want to transition into a leadership role, and into more money, that is something you should certainly discuss with your chief. Having said that, you chief isn't likely to care about whatever assumptions you had regarding salary increases.
Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
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What you need to keep in mind is that you made a decision to join the company with the current renumeration and current role. No longer being in charge of 20 employees and missing out on 60k is a personal thing that you should have dealt with before accepting the offer. It is not your new company's fault you accepted the conditions of employment.
If this is an annual review that takes place, it's not surprising they have a policy of no raises in the first year. You should formally ask for a non-annual salary review which will be a seperate process. Annual salary review usually looks at performance. Non-annual salary review will look at prevailing employment conditions too. That's generally how these things work.
If you want to transition into a leadership role, and into more money, that is something you should certainly discuss with your chief. Having said that, you chief isn't likely to care about whatever assumptions you had regarding salary increases.
Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
add a comment |
What you need to keep in mind is that you made a decision to join the company with the current renumeration and current role. No longer being in charge of 20 employees and missing out on 60k is a personal thing that you should have dealt with before accepting the offer. It is not your new company's fault you accepted the conditions of employment.
If this is an annual review that takes place, it's not surprising they have a policy of no raises in the first year. You should formally ask for a non-annual salary review which will be a seperate process. Annual salary review usually looks at performance. Non-annual salary review will look at prevailing employment conditions too. That's generally how these things work.
If you want to transition into a leadership role, and into more money, that is something you should certainly discuss with your chief. Having said that, you chief isn't likely to care about whatever assumptions you had regarding salary increases.
What you need to keep in mind is that you made a decision to join the company with the current renumeration and current role. No longer being in charge of 20 employees and missing out on 60k is a personal thing that you should have dealt with before accepting the offer. It is not your new company's fault you accepted the conditions of employment.
If this is an annual review that takes place, it's not surprising they have a policy of no raises in the first year. You should formally ask for a non-annual salary review which will be a seperate process. Annual salary review usually looks at performance. Non-annual salary review will look at prevailing employment conditions too. That's generally how these things work.
If you want to transition into a leadership role, and into more money, that is something you should certainly discuss with your chief. Having said that, you chief isn't likely to care about whatever assumptions you had regarding salary increases.
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Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
add a comment |
Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
Your answer is helping to some extend, but I feel like you are not answering my question. The thing about my former position was just supposed to add a bit of weight & give some background.
– QuestionMan
1 hour ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
@QuestionMan Fair enough. But it's hard for me to gauge what information you think is worthwhile bringing to your chief's attention, and what information is just for us. I'll update my answer to be a bit more direct.
– Gregory Currie
59 mins ago
add a comment |
In my experience, once your current boss has made it clear that you won't be getting a raise any time soon, despite his praise for your excellent performance, the only/best way for you to get your raise is to find a better paying job elsewhere. Every year you wait for some vaguely promised raise to materialize "next year" is another year you work for less than you're actually worth.
Also, you cannot be any clearer in your message (that you feel undervalued) than by getting a better offer elsewhere and handing in your notice/resignation shortly after being denied a raise.
For me at least, merely telling my boss that I felt under-valued never resulted in more than yet another vague promise of future raises that would in the end never materialize.
add a comment |
In my experience, once your current boss has made it clear that you won't be getting a raise any time soon, despite his praise for your excellent performance, the only/best way for you to get your raise is to find a better paying job elsewhere. Every year you wait for some vaguely promised raise to materialize "next year" is another year you work for less than you're actually worth.
Also, you cannot be any clearer in your message (that you feel undervalued) than by getting a better offer elsewhere and handing in your notice/resignation shortly after being denied a raise.
For me at least, merely telling my boss that I felt under-valued never resulted in more than yet another vague promise of future raises that would in the end never materialize.
add a comment |
In my experience, once your current boss has made it clear that you won't be getting a raise any time soon, despite his praise for your excellent performance, the only/best way for you to get your raise is to find a better paying job elsewhere. Every year you wait for some vaguely promised raise to materialize "next year" is another year you work for less than you're actually worth.
Also, you cannot be any clearer in your message (that you feel undervalued) than by getting a better offer elsewhere and handing in your notice/resignation shortly after being denied a raise.
For me at least, merely telling my boss that I felt under-valued never resulted in more than yet another vague promise of future raises that would in the end never materialize.
In my experience, once your current boss has made it clear that you won't be getting a raise any time soon, despite his praise for your excellent performance, the only/best way for you to get your raise is to find a better paying job elsewhere. Every year you wait for some vaguely promised raise to materialize "next year" is another year you work for less than you're actually worth.
Also, you cannot be any clearer in your message (that you feel undervalued) than by getting a better offer elsewhere and handing in your notice/resignation shortly after being denied a raise.
For me at least, merely telling my boss that I felt under-valued never resulted in more than yet another vague promise of future raises that would in the end never materialize.
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