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Why favour the standard WP loop over iterating over (new WP_Query())->get_posts()?
When should you use WP_Query vs query_posts() vs get_posts()?When to use WP_query(), query_posts() and pre_get_postsAdd class to every other posts using get_postsWP_Query() and get_posts() can't handle over a thousand posts?Trying to check and see if a post has a featured image outside of the main loopShow all posts using the template page and the loop?What's the difference between “get_posts” and “wp_get_recent_posts” when used with “setup_postdata”?Transient Loop Not working as expectedIs get_posts() more efficient than The Loop?Why WP_Query in functions.php is not working when get_posts works?get_posts works but new wp_query doesn'tHow To Use get_posts & get_the_post_thumbnail Outside The Loop
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The WP loop goes like this:
if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...
Why is it preferred over the following?
foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) ...
To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.
What do I gain by using the standard loop
? Is iterating over get_posts()
any less efficient?
get-posts
add a comment |
The WP loop goes like this:
if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...
Why is it preferred over the following?
foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) ...
To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.
What do I gain by using the standard loop
? Is iterating over get_posts()
any less efficient?
get-posts
Because WordPress already sets the instance ofWP_Query
for you, callingnew WP_Query()
will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.
– Fayaz
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The WP loop goes like this:
if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...
Why is it preferred over the following?
foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) ...
To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.
What do I gain by using the standard loop
? Is iterating over get_posts()
any less efficient?
get-posts
The WP loop goes like this:
if ( have_posts() ) {
while ( have_posts() ) {
the_post();
...
Why is it preferred over the following?
foreach( (new WP_Query())->get_posts() as $post ) ...
To me, it's more apparent what is going on in the latter. I'm new to PHP and WP and I'm trying to understand why I should be using the former.
What do I gain by using the standard loop
? Is iterating over get_posts()
any less efficient?
get-posts
get-posts
asked 3 hours ago
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Because WordPress already sets the instance ofWP_Query
for you, callingnew WP_Query()
will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.
– Fayaz
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Because WordPress already sets the instance ofWP_Query
for you, callingnew WP_Query()
will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.
– Fayaz
3 hours ago
Because WordPress already sets the instance of
WP_Query
for you, calling new WP_Query()
will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.– Fayaz
3 hours ago
Because WordPress already sets the instance of
WP_Query
for you, calling new WP_Query()
will create another instance, which will be an overhead. Read this and this.– Fayaz
3 hours ago
add a comment |
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Several reasons
1. Filters and Actions
By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.
Additionally, you set up the_post
correctly, allowing functions such as the_content
etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop
2. Memory Efficiency
By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query
to take the data it has and create WP_Post
objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed
3. PHP Warnings
Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.
4. Overriding WP globals
By using $post
you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of
5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness
Creating an object inside a foreach
condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.
6. Debugging
A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away
7. There are Better Alternatives
array_walk
A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk
:
$q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post )
//
);
Note that I don't recommend using array_walk
.
PHP Generators
Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.
For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:
if ( have_posts() )
foreach ( wp_loop() as $post )
echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
else
echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.
https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/
I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all
add a comment |
I advise you to take a look at the documentation:
- The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:
The Loop gives you access to:
Template Tags
Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources- List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Conditional Tags
- Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:
- What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:
- loop_start
- the_post
- loop_end
Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:
pre_get_posts
And all the filters listed under:
- WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex
Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts()
array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.
Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:
- Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Because:
You can use
rewind_posts()
to loop through the same query a second time;Or create a secondary query and loop, using
wp_reset_postdata()
in the process.
Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.
Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.
add a comment |
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Several reasons
1. Filters and Actions
By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.
Additionally, you set up the_post
correctly, allowing functions such as the_content
etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop
2. Memory Efficiency
By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query
to take the data it has and create WP_Post
objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed
3. PHP Warnings
Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.
4. Overriding WP globals
By using $post
you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of
5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness
Creating an object inside a foreach
condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.
6. Debugging
A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away
7. There are Better Alternatives
array_walk
A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk
:
$q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post )
//
);
Note that I don't recommend using array_walk
.
PHP Generators
Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.
For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:
if ( have_posts() )
foreach ( wp_loop() as $post )
echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
else
echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.
https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/
I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all
add a comment |
Several reasons
1. Filters and Actions
By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.
Additionally, you set up the_post
correctly, allowing functions such as the_content
etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop
2. Memory Efficiency
By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query
to take the data it has and create WP_Post
objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed
3. PHP Warnings
Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.
4. Overriding WP globals
By using $post
you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of
5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness
Creating an object inside a foreach
condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.
6. Debugging
A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away
7. There are Better Alternatives
array_walk
A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk
:
$q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post )
//
);
Note that I don't recommend using array_walk
.
PHP Generators
Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.
For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:
if ( have_posts() )
foreach ( wp_loop() as $post )
echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
else
echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.
https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/
I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all
add a comment |
Several reasons
1. Filters and Actions
By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.
Additionally, you set up the_post
correctly, allowing functions such as the_content
etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop
2. Memory Efficiency
By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query
to take the data it has and create WP_Post
objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed
3. PHP Warnings
Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.
4. Overriding WP globals
By using $post
you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of
5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness
Creating an object inside a foreach
condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.
6. Debugging
A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away
7. There are Better Alternatives
array_walk
A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk
:
$q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post )
//
);
Note that I don't recommend using array_walk
.
PHP Generators
Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.
For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:
if ( have_posts() )
foreach ( wp_loop() as $post )
echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
else
echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.
https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/
I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all
Several reasons
1. Filters and Actions
By using the standard loop, you execute various filters and actions that plugins rely on.
Additionally, you set up the_post
correctly, allowing functions such as the_content
etc to work correctly. Some filters can even insert "posts" into the loop
2. Memory Efficiency
By fetching all the posts as an array, you're forcing WP_Query
to take the data it has and create WP_Post
objects. With a standard post loop these are created as they're needed
3. PHP Warnings
Your loop doesn't check if any posts were actually found, so it's impossible to give a "No posts available" style message. It'll also generate PHP warnings at times.
4. Overriding WP globals
By using $post
you're overriding a global variable, which can have unintended consequences, especially if this loop is nested inside another loop you're unaware of
5. PHP Efficiency and Correctness
Creating an object inside a foreach
condition is bad practice, as is creating and then using an object without error checking.
6. Debugging
A lot of tools and plugins assume you're using a standard loop and have been built to make life easier. By doing this you're throwing all of that away
7. There are Better Alternatives
array_walk
A crude but superior option to your foreach might actually be array_walk
:
$q = new WP_Query([ ..args ]);
array_walk( $q->get_posts(), function( $post )
//
);
Note that I don't recommend using array_walk
.
PHP Generators
Now that's not to say you couldn't use a different style loop while still having all the advantages.
For example WP Scholar has an article showing a php generator based loop:
if ( have_posts() )
foreach ( wp_loop() as $post )
echo '<h1>' . esc_html( get_the_title() ) . '</h1>';
else
echo '<h1>No posts found!</h1>';
This has the advantage that it still calls all the functions of a standard loop, but they've been abstracted away.
https://wpscholar.com/blog/creating-better-wordpress-loop/
I'm sure there are others, but a standard loop is reliable predictable and readable to all
answered 2 hours ago
Tom J Nowell♦Tom J Nowell
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I advise you to take a look at the documentation:
- The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:
The Loop gives you access to:
Template Tags
Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources- List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Conditional Tags
- Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:
- What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:
- loop_start
- the_post
- loop_end
Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:
pre_get_posts
And all the filters listed under:
- WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex
Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts()
array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.
Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:
- Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Because:
You can use
rewind_posts()
to loop through the same query a second time;Or create a secondary query and loop, using
wp_reset_postdata()
in the process.
Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.
Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.
add a comment |
I advise you to take a look at the documentation:
- The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:
The Loop gives you access to:
Template Tags
Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources- List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Conditional Tags
- Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:
- What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:
- loop_start
- the_post
- loop_end
Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:
pre_get_posts
And all the filters listed under:
- WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex
Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts()
array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.
Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:
- Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Because:
You can use
rewind_posts()
to loop through the same query a second time;Or create a secondary query and loop, using
wp_reset_postdata()
in the process.
Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.
Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.
add a comment |
I advise you to take a look at the documentation:
- The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:
The Loop gives you access to:
Template Tags
Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources- List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Conditional Tags
- Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:
- What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:
- loop_start
- the_post
- loop_end
Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:
pre_get_posts
And all the filters listed under:
- WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex
Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts()
array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.
Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:
- Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Because:
You can use
rewind_posts()
to loop through the same query a second time;Or create a secondary query and loop, using
wp_reset_postdata()
in the process.
Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.
Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.
I advise you to take a look at the documentation:
- The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
you'll find more details there. But it follows a short overview:
The Loop gives you access to:
Template Tags
Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources- List of Template Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Conditional Tags
- Conditional Tags | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Not all Template and Conditional Tags are The Loop dependent, for an overview for what to use in The Loop:
- What the Loop Can Display | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Additionally, there are hooks that can be used with The Loop, like:
- loop_start
- the_post
- loop_end
Looking at it a bit more broadly you could include something like:
pre_get_posts
And all the filters listed under:
- WP_Query Filters | Plugin API/Filter Refernce | WordPress Codex
Although the latter two technically do apply to a custom iteration over the $wp_query->get_posts()
array too, but it is part of the system or process. And as a general rule it works better and more reliable if you use it inside the paradigm, so in this case by making use of The Loop.
Even if you need, sometimes it is unavoidable, additional loops, you don't have to do it outside The Loop paradigm:
- Multiple Loops | The Loop | Theme Developer Handbook | WordPress Developer Resources
Because:
You can use
rewind_posts()
to loop through the same query a second time;Or create a secondary query and loop, using
wp_reset_postdata()
in the process.
Doing it this way gives you the benefits that come with The Loop, it is better integrated into how WordPress intended on doing it, and will create less overhead in the process.
Like I said in the beginning, this is more or less just an abstract of the documentation, with some additional information and links. So you know now where to go, if you want to read up on it. Of course for some things it will be best if you deep dive into the source code itself, depending on how far you want to go. Anyhow, this should get you going, and give you enough keywords on hand to go further.
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NicolaiNicolai
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