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In the company I work at I was assigned a task that requires the use of a particular software. During the research phase I found that there are very, very few tutorials on how to operate it. I have been self-studying the software and exploring documentation, which took me quite some time.
I had an idea that I could make tutorials on YouTube regarding this software, not regarding my assignment, but rather how to use generic functions and how to operate this software in general. I presented my manager with this idea, and he said he does not want me to do it, because then other people could learn how to use this software and make their own products.
Can he legally force me not to do this, if I use the knowledge I acquired during work, but the tutorials are not connected my assignment?
And in general - Is this a normal thing? And should I have even asked?
ethics legal netherlands intellectual-property
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In the company I work at I was assigned a task that requires the use of a particular software. During the research phase I found that there are very, very few tutorials on how to operate it. I have been self-studying the software and exploring documentation, which took me quite some time.
I had an idea that I could make tutorials on YouTube regarding this software, not regarding my assignment, but rather how to use generic functions and how to operate this software in general. I presented my manager with this idea, and he said he does not want me to do it, because then other people could learn how to use this software and make their own products.
Can he legally force me not to do this, if I use the knowledge I acquired during work, but the tutorials are not connected my assignment?
And in general - Is this a normal thing? And should I have even asked?
ethics legal netherlands intellectual-property
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
1
Legal questions should generally be asked on law.stackexchange.com
– Philipp
13 hours ago
Of course you should not do this (assuming your team is not open source). Open-sourcing tutorials is just like open sourcing code. Obviously you don't do it if your team is not open source. (if your team is open source, of course you can do it.)
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@Fattie That doesn't make sense at all. You're saying you shouldn't be allowed the make a tutorial on how to use Excel, but you are allowed to make a tutorial on how to use Libre Office. Note that the OP isn't talking about in-house software as "other people" have access to it.
– Abigail
7 hours ago
1
What software is this? Is this software you have purchased yourself and have installed on your own computer? Will you be creating and uploading the tutorials on your own computer, using your own licenses, in your own time?
– Joe Strazzere
6 hours ago
add a comment |
In the company I work at I was assigned a task that requires the use of a particular software. During the research phase I found that there are very, very few tutorials on how to operate it. I have been self-studying the software and exploring documentation, which took me quite some time.
I had an idea that I could make tutorials on YouTube regarding this software, not regarding my assignment, but rather how to use generic functions and how to operate this software in general. I presented my manager with this idea, and he said he does not want me to do it, because then other people could learn how to use this software and make their own products.
Can he legally force me not to do this, if I use the knowledge I acquired during work, but the tutorials are not connected my assignment?
And in general - Is this a normal thing? And should I have even asked?
ethics legal netherlands intellectual-property
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
In the company I work at I was assigned a task that requires the use of a particular software. During the research phase I found that there are very, very few tutorials on how to operate it. I have been self-studying the software and exploring documentation, which took me quite some time.
I had an idea that I could make tutorials on YouTube regarding this software, not regarding my assignment, but rather how to use generic functions and how to operate this software in general. I presented my manager with this idea, and he said he does not want me to do it, because then other people could learn how to use this software and make their own products.
Can he legally force me not to do this, if I use the knowledge I acquired during work, but the tutorials are not connected my assignment?
And in general - Is this a normal thing? And should I have even asked?
ethics legal netherlands intellectual-property
ethics legal netherlands intellectual-property
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
edited 14 hours ago
Sourav Ghosh
9,65865066
9,65865066
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
asked 14 hours ago
AtizsAtizs
4137
4137
1
Legal questions should generally be asked on law.stackexchange.com
– Philipp
13 hours ago
Of course you should not do this (assuming your team is not open source). Open-sourcing tutorials is just like open sourcing code. Obviously you don't do it if your team is not open source. (if your team is open source, of course you can do it.)
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@Fattie That doesn't make sense at all. You're saying you shouldn't be allowed the make a tutorial on how to use Excel, but you are allowed to make a tutorial on how to use Libre Office. Note that the OP isn't talking about in-house software as "other people" have access to it.
– Abigail
7 hours ago
1
What software is this? Is this software you have purchased yourself and have installed on your own computer? Will you be creating and uploading the tutorials on your own computer, using your own licenses, in your own time?
– Joe Strazzere
6 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Legal questions should generally be asked on law.stackexchange.com
– Philipp
13 hours ago
Of course you should not do this (assuming your team is not open source). Open-sourcing tutorials is just like open sourcing code. Obviously you don't do it if your team is not open source. (if your team is open source, of course you can do it.)
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
@Fattie That doesn't make sense at all. You're saying you shouldn't be allowed the make a tutorial on how to use Excel, but you are allowed to make a tutorial on how to use Libre Office. Note that the OP isn't talking about in-house software as "other people" have access to it.
– Abigail
7 hours ago
1
What software is this? Is this software you have purchased yourself and have installed on your own computer? Will you be creating and uploading the tutorials on your own computer, using your own licenses, in your own time?
– Joe Strazzere
6 hours ago
1
1
Legal questions should generally be asked on law.stackexchange.com
– Philipp
13 hours ago
Legal questions should generally be asked on law.stackexchange.com
– Philipp
13 hours ago
Of course you should not do this (assuming your team is not open source). Open-sourcing tutorials is just like open sourcing code. Obviously you don't do it if your team is not open source. (if your team is open source, of course you can do it.)
– Fattie
13 hours ago
Of course you should not do this (assuming your team is not open source). Open-sourcing tutorials is just like open sourcing code. Obviously you don't do it if your team is not open source. (if your team is open source, of course you can do it.)
– Fattie
13 hours ago
1
1
@Fattie That doesn't make sense at all. You're saying you shouldn't be allowed the make a tutorial on how to use Excel, but you are allowed to make a tutorial on how to use Libre Office. Note that the OP isn't talking about in-house software as "other people" have access to it.
– Abigail
7 hours ago
@Fattie That doesn't make sense at all. You're saying you shouldn't be allowed the make a tutorial on how to use Excel, but you are allowed to make a tutorial on how to use Libre Office. Note that the OP isn't talking about in-house software as "other people" have access to it.
– Abigail
7 hours ago
1
1
What software is this? Is this software you have purchased yourself and have installed on your own computer? Will you be creating and uploading the tutorials on your own computer, using your own licenses, in your own time?
– Joe Strazzere
6 hours ago
What software is this? Is this software you have purchased yourself and have installed on your own computer? Will you be creating and uploading the tutorials on your own computer, using your own licenses, in your own time?
– Joe Strazzere
6 hours ago
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The short answer is: Check your contracts, but in your case, I believe your manager gave you correct advice.
[...]if I use the knowledge I acquired during work[...]
If the software was made available to you by the company, and you self-studied it in company-paid time, the ownership belongs to the company. Any documentation / presentation you may create may (and likely to be) still be owned by the company.
You were right to ask your manager.
Since they explicitly forbid you to try publishing in Internet (YouTube or otherwise), and you're not absolutely sure [1] you're not restricted from doing that by the employment agreement, it's better to listen to your manager.
[1]: By means of professional help, from a registered lawyer.
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
1
I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Just to play devil's advocate, if the software itself isn't a company secret literally nothing keeps you from writing a guide, Medium Article, etc on your spare time, specially under an alias.
Granted, it's wise to have a personal copy of the tool if you are to follow through with using pictures of even adding a video, doing so with a company license would be a terrible idea.
Outside of that, imagine if engineers on SE were to pay royalties to every company they've worked for in the case they share knowledge on tools they've used, like how to use a programming library or an electric drill. It's nonsense and a good chunk of this website would not exist if that logic were to hold.
answered 7 hours ago
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Your manager said that "he does not want me to do it". Regardless if he can force you to not do it, regardless if his position is correct, or fair, or what not, doing something that your manager explicitly told you not to do is a very poor choice - it is the first step in a process which will inevitably end up with you looking for another job.
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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The short answer is: Check your contracts, but in your case, I believe your manager gave you correct advice.
[...]if I use the knowledge I acquired during work[...]
If the software was made available to you by the company, and you self-studied it in company-paid time, the ownership belongs to the company. Any documentation / presentation you may create may (and likely to be) still be owned by the company.
You were right to ask your manager.
Since they explicitly forbid you to try publishing in Internet (YouTube or otherwise), and you're not absolutely sure [1] you're not restricted from doing that by the employment agreement, it's better to listen to your manager.
[1]: By means of professional help, from a registered lawyer.
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
1
I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The short answer is: Check your contracts, but in your case, I believe your manager gave you correct advice.
[...]if I use the knowledge I acquired during work[...]
If the software was made available to you by the company, and you self-studied it in company-paid time, the ownership belongs to the company. Any documentation / presentation you may create may (and likely to be) still be owned by the company.
You were right to ask your manager.
Since they explicitly forbid you to try publishing in Internet (YouTube or otherwise), and you're not absolutely sure [1] you're not restricted from doing that by the employment agreement, it's better to listen to your manager.
[1]: By means of professional help, from a registered lawyer.
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
1
I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
add a comment |
The short answer is: Check your contracts, but in your case, I believe your manager gave you correct advice.
[...]if I use the knowledge I acquired during work[...]
If the software was made available to you by the company, and you self-studied it in company-paid time, the ownership belongs to the company. Any documentation / presentation you may create may (and likely to be) still be owned by the company.
You were right to ask your manager.
Since they explicitly forbid you to try publishing in Internet (YouTube or otherwise), and you're not absolutely sure [1] you're not restricted from doing that by the employment agreement, it's better to listen to your manager.
[1]: By means of professional help, from a registered lawyer.
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
The short answer is: Check your contracts, but in your case, I believe your manager gave you correct advice.
[...]if I use the knowledge I acquired during work[...]
If the software was made available to you by the company, and you self-studied it in company-paid time, the ownership belongs to the company. Any documentation / presentation you may create may (and likely to be) still be owned by the company.
You were right to ask your manager.
Since they explicitly forbid you to try publishing in Internet (YouTube or otherwise), and you're not absolutely sure [1] you're not restricted from doing that by the employment agreement, it's better to listen to your manager.
[1]: By means of professional help, from a registered lawyer.
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
edited 14 hours ago
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
answered 14 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
9,65865066
9,65865066
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I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
add a comment |
1
I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
1
1
I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
I don't believe this is correct, legally. Knowledge acquired during work is not automatically property of the company. The only way this would be illegal is if creating such tutorials either used copyrighted materials (e.g. screenshots, logos, documentation) or necessarily revealed corporate secrets.
– forest
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Just to play devil's advocate, if the software itself isn't a company secret literally nothing keeps you from writing a guide, Medium Article, etc on your spare time, specially under an alias.
Granted, it's wise to have a personal copy of the tool if you are to follow through with using pictures of even adding a video, doing so with a company license would be a terrible idea.
Outside of that, imagine if engineers on SE were to pay royalties to every company they've worked for in the case they share knowledge on tools they've used, like how to use a programming library or an electric drill. It's nonsense and a good chunk of this website would not exist if that logic were to hold.
answered 7 hours ago
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Just to play devil's advocate, if the software itself isn't a company secret literally nothing keeps you from writing a guide, Medium Article, etc on your spare time, specially under an alias.
Granted, it's wise to have a personal copy of the tool if you are to follow through with using pictures of even adding a video, doing so with a company license would be a terrible idea.
Outside of that, imagine if engineers on SE were to pay royalties to every company they've worked for in the case they share knowledge on tools they've used, like how to use a programming library or an electric drill. It's nonsense and a good chunk of this website would not exist if that logic were to hold.
answered 7 hours ago
lucasgcblucasgcb
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Just to play devil's advocate, if the software itself isn't a company secret literally nothing keeps you from writing a guide, Medium Article, etc on your spare time, specially under an alias.
Granted, it's wise to have a personal copy of the tool if you are to follow through with using pictures of even adding a video, doing so with a company license would be a terrible idea.
Outside of that, imagine if engineers on SE were to pay royalties to every company they've worked for in the case they share knowledge on tools they've used, like how to use a programming library or an electric drill. It's nonsense and a good chunk of this website would not exist if that logic were to hold.
answered 7 hours ago
lucasgcblucasgcb
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Just to play devil's advocate, if the software itself isn't a company secret literally nothing keeps you from writing a guide, Medium Article, etc on your spare time, specially under an alias.
Granted, it's wise to have a personal copy of the tool if you are to follow through with using pictures of even adding a video, doing so with a company license would be a terrible idea.
Outside of that, imagine if engineers on SE were to pay royalties to every company they've worked for in the case they share knowledge on tools they've used, like how to use a programming library or an electric drill. It's nonsense and a good chunk of this website would not exist if that logic were to hold.
answered 7 hours ago
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Your manager said that "he does not want me to do it". Regardless if he can force you to not do it, regardless if his position is correct, or fair, or what not, doing something that your manager explicitly told you not to do is a very poor choice - it is the first step in a process which will inevitably end up with you looking for another job.
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Your manager said that "he does not want me to do it". Regardless if he can force you to not do it, regardless if his position is correct, or fair, or what not, doing something that your manager explicitly told you not to do is a very poor choice - it is the first step in a process which will inevitably end up with you looking for another job.
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
add a comment |
Your manager said that "he does not want me to do it". Regardless if he can force you to not do it, regardless if his position is correct, or fair, or what not, doing something that your manager explicitly told you not to do is a very poor choice - it is the first step in a process which will inevitably end up with you looking for another job.
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
Your manager said that "he does not want me to do it". Regardless if he can force you to not do it, regardless if his position is correct, or fair, or what not, doing something that your manager explicitly told you not to do is a very poor choice - it is the first step in a process which will inevitably end up with you looking for another job.
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
1,25929
answered 12 hours ago
dan.m was user2321368dan.m was user2321368
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This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
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This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
This is the Netherlands, not the USA. Employees actually do have rights, and rights of employers is limited. If a manager tells you want to do (or not do) in your free time, whether his position is correct is ESSENTIAL. Unless the OP is revealing trade secrets, the managers opinion is irrelevant. "Otherwise other people can use the software" isn't much of reason. As for "looking for another job", again, this is the Netherlands. People can't be fired on a wimp. I've a hard time seeing a judge agreeing with this.
– Abigail
6 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
@Abigail - I'll admit that I have zero knowledge about employment law in the Netherlands. That said, there are many ways that someone can make your life miserable without breaking the law.
– dan.m was user2321368
5 hours ago
add a comment |
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– Philipp
13 hours ago
Of course you should not do this (assuming your team is not open source). Open-sourcing tutorials is just like open sourcing code. Obviously you don't do it if your team is not open source. (if your team is open source, of course you can do it.)
– Fattie
13 hours ago
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@Fattie That doesn't make sense at all. You're saying you shouldn't be allowed the make a tutorial on how to use Excel, but you are allowed to make a tutorial on how to use Libre Office. Note that the OP isn't talking about in-house software as "other people" have access to it.
– Abigail
7 hours ago
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What software is this? Is this software you have purchased yourself and have installed on your own computer? Will you be creating and uploading the tutorials on your own computer, using your own licenses, in your own time?
– Joe Strazzere
6 hours ago