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A large number of barrels filled with beer are at the entrance to a path into the mountains. Three trolls protect it. As other troll creatures approach they are given a barrel and they head down to the 'event'



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The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction. I know that spirit based alcohol is flammable and would go up with a bang.



The wooden barrels are flammable, but I can't find out if beer is. As the ABV would potentially be something quite low (3.6% to 4%) I am not sure it would burn quickly










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A large number of barrels filled with beer are at the entrance to a path into the mountains. Three trolls protect it. As other troll creatures approach they are given a barrel and they head down to the 'event'



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The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction. I know that spirit based alcohol is flammable and would go up with a bang.



The wooden barrels are flammable, but I can't find out if beer is. As the ABV would potentially be something quite low (3.6% to 4%) I am not sure it would burn quickly










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    I assume this is using mundane fire then? (Magical fire need not follow the laws of physics after all)
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    Are you the DM or the player in this situation?
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    I am the DM for this adventure
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    Good to know! Also be helpful to know how you were planning to light them. Medix2 brings up a good point about magical vs mundane effects.
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A large number of barrels filled with beer are at the entrance to a path into the mountains. Three trolls protect it. As other troll creatures approach they are given a barrel and they head down to the 'event'



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The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction. I know that spirit based alcohol is flammable and would go up with a bang.



The wooden barrels are flammable, but I can't find out if beer is. As the ABV would potentially be something quite low (3.6% to 4%) I am not sure it would burn quickly










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A large number of barrels filled with beer are at the entrance to a path into the mountains. Three trolls protect it. As other troll creatures approach they are given a barrel and they head down to the 'event'



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The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction. I know that spirit based alcohol is flammable and would go up with a bang.



The wooden barrels are flammable, but I can't find out if beer is. As the ABV would potentially be something quite low (3.6% to 4%) I am not sure it would burn quickly







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    I assume this is using mundane fire then? (Magical fire need not follow the laws of physics after all)
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    Good to know! Also be helpful to know how you were planning to light them. Medix2 brings up a good point about magical vs mundane effects.
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    it is with natural fire, as we are playing in a very low magic fantasy world
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    I assume this is using mundane fire then? (Magical fire need not follow the laws of physics after all)
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    – Medix2
    11 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Are you the DM or the player in this situation?
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    11 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    I am the DM for this adventure
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    – JPuk
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    Good to know! Also be helpful to know how you were planning to light them. Medix2 brings up a good point about magical vs mundane effects.
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    – NautArch
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Are you the DM or the player in this situation?
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Liquids with less than 40% alcohol aren't really flammable. While wood is flammable, since it's filled with liquid it won't burn either.



Then again, the explosion of a fireball could probably blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over. As a distraction that would still work.






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    Beer barrels used to be proofed against liquid penetration because tannins is not what you want in your beer. Still, this process, and huge amount of cool liquid makes the wood hard to set on fire.
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    blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over That would be a great tragedy. FWIW, if we are going by a tight rules interpretation, fireball doesn't create any over pressure the way a conventional bomb or grenade does, it simply sets flammable things on fire (per the rules text). Any DM can rule otherwise if they so choose. Welcome to RPGSE. Please take the tour and visit the help center to see how this Q&A site works best.
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Beer isn’t flammable and neither are barrels



Flammable materials have a flash point less than 37.8oC (100oF). For practical purposes, a substance is flammable if brief contract with an ignition source (a spark, a flame or a Fireball) will cause it to ignite and sustain combustion after the source is removed.



Beer isn’t, nor are any alcoholic beverages - even spirits have to be heated to well above 37.8oC before the can be ignited. Pure or near pure ethanol (alcohol) is flammable. Petrol is flammable but diesel isn’t.



Similarly, timber (in the form of barrels or houses or otherwise) isn’t flammable. Wood shavings and sawdust may be but solid pieces of wood aren’t - you can’t light a barrel by briefly touching it with a lit match. For that matter, neither are candles as anyone who’s had to light a birthday cake can attest.



Now, there are plenty of things that will burn if you get them hot enough. Trees and houses burn but they aren’t flammable. Aluminium and steel burn - aluminium more readily than steel which is why you have to weld it with an Argon shield; if you don’t it catches on fire.



As a rule of thumb, if you have to hold a match to it for more than a few seconds, it isn’t flammable.






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    I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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Liquids with less than 40% alcohol aren't really flammable. While wood is flammable, since it's filled with liquid it won't burn either.



Then again, the explosion of a fireball could probably blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over. As a distraction that would still work.






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    Beer barrels used to be proofed against liquid penetration because tannins is not what you want in your beer. Still, this process, and huge amount of cool liquid makes the wood hard to set on fire.
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    blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over That would be a great tragedy. FWIW, if we are going by a tight rules interpretation, fireball doesn't create any over pressure the way a conventional bomb or grenade does, it simply sets flammable things on fire (per the rules text). Any DM can rule otherwise if they so choose. Welcome to RPGSE. Please take the tour and visit the help center to see how this Q&A site works best.
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Liquids with less than 40% alcohol aren't really flammable. While wood is flammable, since it's filled with liquid it won't burn either.



Then again, the explosion of a fireball could probably blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over. As a distraction that would still work.






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Liquids with less than 40% alcohol aren't really flammable. While wood is flammable, since it's filled with liquid it won't burn either.



Then again, the explosion of a fireball could probably blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over. As a distraction that would still work.






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Liquids with less than 40% alcohol aren't really flammable. While wood is flammable, since it's filled with liquid it won't burn either.



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    Beer barrels used to be proofed against liquid penetration because tannins is not what you want in your beer. Still, this process, and huge amount of cool liquid makes the wood hard to set on fire.
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    – Mołot
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    blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over That would be a great tragedy. FWIW, if we are going by a tight rules interpretation, fireball doesn't create any over pressure the way a conventional bomb or grenade does, it simply sets flammable things on fire (per the rules text). Any DM can rule otherwise if they so choose. Welcome to RPGSE. Please take the tour and visit the help center to see how this Q&A site works best.
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    Beer barrels used to be proofed against liquid penetration because tannins is not what you want in your beer. Still, this process, and huge amount of cool liquid makes the wood hard to set on fire.
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    – Mołot
    10 hours ago






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    blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over That would be a great tragedy. FWIW, if we are going by a tight rules interpretation, fireball doesn't create any over pressure the way a conventional bomb or grenade does, it simply sets flammable things on fire (per the rules text). Any DM can rule otherwise if they so choose. Welcome to RPGSE. Please take the tour and visit the help center to see how this Q&A site works best.
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Beer barrels used to be proofed against liquid penetration because tannins is not what you want in your beer. Still, this process, and huge amount of cool liquid makes the wood hard to set on fire.
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blow the barrels apart, spilling beer all over That would be a great tragedy. FWIW, if we are going by a tight rules interpretation, fireball doesn't create any over pressure the way a conventional bomb or grenade does, it simply sets flammable things on fire (per the rules text). Any DM can rule otherwise if they so choose. Welcome to RPGSE. Please take the tour and visit the help center to see how this Q&A site works best.
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Beer isn’t flammable and neither are barrels



Flammable materials have a flash point less than 37.8oC (100oF). For practical purposes, a substance is flammable if brief contract with an ignition source (a spark, a flame or a Fireball) will cause it to ignite and sustain combustion after the source is removed.



Beer isn’t, nor are any alcoholic beverages - even spirits have to be heated to well above 37.8oC before the can be ignited. Pure or near pure ethanol (alcohol) is flammable. Petrol is flammable but diesel isn’t.



Similarly, timber (in the form of barrels or houses or otherwise) isn’t flammable. Wood shavings and sawdust may be but solid pieces of wood aren’t - you can’t light a barrel by briefly touching it with a lit match. For that matter, neither are candles as anyone who’s had to light a birthday cake can attest.



Now, there are plenty of things that will burn if you get them hot enough. Trees and houses burn but they aren’t flammable. Aluminium and steel burn - aluminium more readily than steel which is why you have to weld it with an Argon shield; if you don’t it catches on fire.



As a rule of thumb, if you have to hold a match to it for more than a few seconds, it isn’t flammable.






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    I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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Beer isn’t flammable and neither are barrels



Flammable materials have a flash point less than 37.8oC (100oF). For practical purposes, a substance is flammable if brief contract with an ignition source (a spark, a flame or a Fireball) will cause it to ignite and sustain combustion after the source is removed.



Beer isn’t, nor are any alcoholic beverages - even spirits have to be heated to well above 37.8oC before the can be ignited. Pure or near pure ethanol (alcohol) is flammable. Petrol is flammable but diesel isn’t.



Similarly, timber (in the form of barrels or houses or otherwise) isn’t flammable. Wood shavings and sawdust may be but solid pieces of wood aren’t - you can’t light a barrel by briefly touching it with a lit match. For that matter, neither are candles as anyone who’s had to light a birthday cake can attest.



Now, there are plenty of things that will burn if you get them hot enough. Trees and houses burn but they aren’t flammable. Aluminium and steel burn - aluminium more readily than steel which is why you have to weld it with an Argon shield; if you don’t it catches on fire.



As a rule of thumb, if you have to hold a match to it for more than a few seconds, it isn’t flammable.






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    I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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Beer isn’t flammable and neither are barrels



Flammable materials have a flash point less than 37.8oC (100oF). For practical purposes, a substance is flammable if brief contract with an ignition source (a spark, a flame or a Fireball) will cause it to ignite and sustain combustion after the source is removed.



Beer isn’t, nor are any alcoholic beverages - even spirits have to be heated to well above 37.8oC before the can be ignited. Pure or near pure ethanol (alcohol) is flammable. Petrol is flammable but diesel isn’t.



Similarly, timber (in the form of barrels or houses or otherwise) isn’t flammable. Wood shavings and sawdust may be but solid pieces of wood aren’t - you can’t light a barrel by briefly touching it with a lit match. For that matter, neither are candles as anyone who’s had to light a birthday cake can attest.



Now, there are plenty of things that will burn if you get them hot enough. Trees and houses burn but they aren’t flammable. Aluminium and steel burn - aluminium more readily than steel which is why you have to weld it with an Argon shield; if you don’t it catches on fire.



As a rule of thumb, if you have to hold a match to it for more than a few seconds, it isn’t flammable.






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Beer isn’t flammable and neither are barrels



Flammable materials have a flash point less than 37.8oC (100oF). For practical purposes, a substance is flammable if brief contract with an ignition source (a spark, a flame or a Fireball) will cause it to ignite and sustain combustion after the source is removed.



Beer isn’t, nor are any alcoholic beverages - even spirits have to be heated to well above 37.8oC before the can be ignited. Pure or near pure ethanol (alcohol) is flammable. Petrol is flammable but diesel isn’t.



Similarly, timber (in the form of barrels or houses or otherwise) isn’t flammable. Wood shavings and sawdust may be but solid pieces of wood aren’t - you can’t light a barrel by briefly touching it with a lit match. For that matter, neither are candles as anyone who’s had to light a birthday cake can attest.



Now, there are plenty of things that will burn if you get them hot enough. Trees and houses burn but they aren’t flammable. Aluminium and steel burn - aluminium more readily than steel which is why you have to weld it with an Argon shield; if you don’t it catches on fire.



As a rule of thumb, if you have to hold a match to it for more than a few seconds, it isn’t flammable.







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    I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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    I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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    – Mołot
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I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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– Mołot
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I can light even weaker absinthe on fire by briefly touching it with a match, so "pure or near pyre ethanol" is kinda opposite to my real experience. Also, your definition of flammable has nothing to do with the question. "The players have a plan to set fire to it, to cause a distraction." — they may have many rounds, or minuets, to do it. Maybe more, who knows?
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