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"A tin of biscuits" vs "A biscuit tin" Is there any slight difference in meaning between that two phrases?
I'm not sure but I think there's a tiny difference in their meaning. Like, a tin of biscuits is about to emphasize that it's a tin with biscuits inside, while a biscuit tin emphasizes it's the bin, not the package.
Do you think it's so, or I'm just overthinking and the two phrases are the same, there's no, even a teeny-weeny difference in meaning?
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"A tin of biscuits" vs "A biscuit tin" Is there any slight difference in meaning between that two phrases?
I'm not sure but I think there's a tiny difference in their meaning. Like, a tin of biscuits is about to emphasize that it's a tin with biscuits inside, while a biscuit tin emphasizes it's the bin, not the package.
Do you think it's so, or I'm just overthinking and the two phrases are the same, there's no, even a teeny-weeny difference in meaning?
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"A tin of biscuits" vs "A biscuit tin" Is there any slight difference in meaning between that two phrases?
I'm not sure but I think there's a tiny difference in their meaning. Like, a tin of biscuits is about to emphasize that it's a tin with biscuits inside, while a biscuit tin emphasizes it's the bin, not the package.
Do you think it's so, or I'm just overthinking and the two phrases are the same, there's no, even a teeny-weeny difference in meaning?
difference
"A tin of biscuits" vs "A biscuit tin" Is there any slight difference in meaning between that two phrases?
I'm not sure but I think there's a tiny difference in their meaning. Like, a tin of biscuits is about to emphasize that it's a tin with biscuits inside, while a biscuit tin emphasizes it's the bin, not the package.
Do you think it's so, or I'm just overthinking and the two phrases are the same, there's no, even a teeny-weeny difference in meaning?
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No, you are not overthinking. There is definitely a difference, and the difference is the one you have described. A "tin of biscuits" refers to the biscuits within, whereas a "biscuit tin" generally refers to the tin itself.
Of course, if the tin is full of biscuits, then the two terms converge in practice. For instance, the two phrases:
"Please fetch me the tin of biscuits from the pantry"
and
"Please fetch me the biscuit tin from the pantry"
will mean exactly the same if the person requesting the tin is hungry and knows there are still biscuits inside! :)
As an aside, back in earlier decades (e.g. in the 1960s), people would collect the tins themselves (especially if they were very pretty) and re-use them to store other items.
I still have several biscuit tins from family members who have passed away (e.g. a biscuit tin full of assorted nails and screws from my grandfather and another full of interesting buttons from my grandmother). Even if I don't need the items within, I keep them for nostalgic reasons.
1
My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
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My mother in law has a biscuit barrel, these are still common
Hers is like this:
(they don't all look like little kegs):
Google Images (biscuit barrel)
1
Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
2
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
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I agree generally with the previous responses, but have one minor detail to add.
Semantically, the difference between "a tin of biscuits" and a "biscuit tin" can be significant. The first refers to an object, a tin, which contains biscuits, whether or not it was originally meant for that purpose. The second refers to a tin which was made to contain biscuits. Thus, a biscuit tin is still a biscuit tin, even after you have eaten all the biscuits!
Example 1: Look, Mom: Grandma sent me a tin of biscuits for Christmas, and they're my favorite kind. I do wish she hadn't sent them in this old tobacco tin -- yucky!
Example 2: Grandma, are you going to use that empty biscuit tin? I'd like to have it to store part of my bottle cap collection.
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Compare it to A pack of crisps and a crisp packet. A box of shoes and a shoe box. a box of cigars and a cigar box. A barrel of oil and an oil barrel. A chest of treasure and a treasure chest, a barrel of wine and a wine barrel.
The first form states a substance, some items, associated with the container. The second form emphasizes the type of container, with or without it's contents.
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No, you are not overthinking. There is definitely a difference, and the difference is the one you have described. A "tin of biscuits" refers to the biscuits within, whereas a "biscuit tin" generally refers to the tin itself.
Of course, if the tin is full of biscuits, then the two terms converge in practice. For instance, the two phrases:
"Please fetch me the tin of biscuits from the pantry"
and
"Please fetch me the biscuit tin from the pantry"
will mean exactly the same if the person requesting the tin is hungry and knows there are still biscuits inside! :)
As an aside, back in earlier decades (e.g. in the 1960s), people would collect the tins themselves (especially if they were very pretty) and re-use them to store other items.
I still have several biscuit tins from family members who have passed away (e.g. a biscuit tin full of assorted nails and screws from my grandfather and another full of interesting buttons from my grandmother). Even if I don't need the items within, I keep them for nostalgic reasons.
1
My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
|
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No, you are not overthinking. There is definitely a difference, and the difference is the one you have described. A "tin of biscuits" refers to the biscuits within, whereas a "biscuit tin" generally refers to the tin itself.
Of course, if the tin is full of biscuits, then the two terms converge in practice. For instance, the two phrases:
"Please fetch me the tin of biscuits from the pantry"
and
"Please fetch me the biscuit tin from the pantry"
will mean exactly the same if the person requesting the tin is hungry and knows there are still biscuits inside! :)
As an aside, back in earlier decades (e.g. in the 1960s), people would collect the tins themselves (especially if they were very pretty) and re-use them to store other items.
I still have several biscuit tins from family members who have passed away (e.g. a biscuit tin full of assorted nails and screws from my grandfather and another full of interesting buttons from my grandmother). Even if I don't need the items within, I keep them for nostalgic reasons.
1
My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
No, you are not overthinking. There is definitely a difference, and the difference is the one you have described. A "tin of biscuits" refers to the biscuits within, whereas a "biscuit tin" generally refers to the tin itself.
Of course, if the tin is full of biscuits, then the two terms converge in practice. For instance, the two phrases:
"Please fetch me the tin of biscuits from the pantry"
and
"Please fetch me the biscuit tin from the pantry"
will mean exactly the same if the person requesting the tin is hungry and knows there are still biscuits inside! :)
As an aside, back in earlier decades (e.g. in the 1960s), people would collect the tins themselves (especially if they were very pretty) and re-use them to store other items.
I still have several biscuit tins from family members who have passed away (e.g. a biscuit tin full of assorted nails and screws from my grandfather and another full of interesting buttons from my grandmother). Even if I don't need the items within, I keep them for nostalgic reasons.
No, you are not overthinking. There is definitely a difference, and the difference is the one you have described. A "tin of biscuits" refers to the biscuits within, whereas a "biscuit tin" generally refers to the tin itself.
Of course, if the tin is full of biscuits, then the two terms converge in practice. For instance, the two phrases:
"Please fetch me the tin of biscuits from the pantry"
and
"Please fetch me the biscuit tin from the pantry"
will mean exactly the same if the person requesting the tin is hungry and knows there are still biscuits inside! :)
As an aside, back in earlier decades (e.g. in the 1960s), people would collect the tins themselves (especially if they were very pretty) and re-use them to store other items.
I still have several biscuit tins from family members who have passed away (e.g. a biscuit tin full of assorted nails and screws from my grandfather and another full of interesting buttons from my grandmother). Even if I don't need the items within, I keep them for nostalgic reasons.
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My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
1
My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
1
1
My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
My mother in law has a 'biscuit barrel'.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
@MichaelHarvey - And I'm sure it is always full! :) For the benefit of all of us on this question, what does a biscuit barrel look like?
– TechnoCat
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
I like the Viscounts best.
– Michael Harvey
12 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
Note: British biscuits are widely called 'cookies' in American English, I believe.
– Michael Harvey
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
My university-student niece as many biscuit tins full of sewing gear, art supplies, and I know not what other things.
– simon at rcl
11 hours ago
|
show 2 more comments
My mother in law has a biscuit barrel, these are still common
Hers is like this:
(they don't all look like little kegs):
Google Images (biscuit barrel)
1
Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
2
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
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My mother in law has a biscuit barrel, these are still common
Hers is like this:
(they don't all look like little kegs):
Google Images (biscuit barrel)
1
Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
2
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
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My mother in law has a biscuit barrel, these are still common
Hers is like this:
(they don't all look like little kegs):
Google Images (biscuit barrel)
My mother in law has a biscuit barrel, these are still common
Hers is like this:
(they don't all look like little kegs):
Google Images (biscuit barrel)
answered 12 hours ago
Michael HarveyMichael Harvey
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Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
2
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
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Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
2
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
1
1
Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
Oh yes! We had one just like this! From a jumble sale! I also saw a mustard coloured china woven basketry effect one, once. Similar barrel shape, china lid, no handle. Fairly horrid.
– Jelila
9 hours ago
2
2
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
But how does this in any way answer the question?
– pipe
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
It provides additional information, and it provides an example of the noun - noun type of construction.
– Michael Harvey
4 hours ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
In American English, this would be called a "cookie jar" indicating its function (although to my eye it looks like an ice bucket). Also, in American English, something this small might be called a barrel to indicate its shape, but the item itself would more normally called a bucket or a pail.
– Steven the Easily Amused
1 hour ago
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I agree generally with the previous responses, but have one minor detail to add.
Semantically, the difference between "a tin of biscuits" and a "biscuit tin" can be significant. The first refers to an object, a tin, which contains biscuits, whether or not it was originally meant for that purpose. The second refers to a tin which was made to contain biscuits. Thus, a biscuit tin is still a biscuit tin, even after you have eaten all the biscuits!
Example 1: Look, Mom: Grandma sent me a tin of biscuits for Christmas, and they're my favorite kind. I do wish she hadn't sent them in this old tobacco tin -- yucky!
Example 2: Grandma, are you going to use that empty biscuit tin? I'd like to have it to store part of my bottle cap collection.
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I agree generally with the previous responses, but have one minor detail to add.
Semantically, the difference between "a tin of biscuits" and a "biscuit tin" can be significant. The first refers to an object, a tin, which contains biscuits, whether or not it was originally meant for that purpose. The second refers to a tin which was made to contain biscuits. Thus, a biscuit tin is still a biscuit tin, even after you have eaten all the biscuits!
Example 1: Look, Mom: Grandma sent me a tin of biscuits for Christmas, and they're my favorite kind. I do wish she hadn't sent them in this old tobacco tin -- yucky!
Example 2: Grandma, are you going to use that empty biscuit tin? I'd like to have it to store part of my bottle cap collection.
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I agree generally with the previous responses, but have one minor detail to add.
Semantically, the difference between "a tin of biscuits" and a "biscuit tin" can be significant. The first refers to an object, a tin, which contains biscuits, whether or not it was originally meant for that purpose. The second refers to a tin which was made to contain biscuits. Thus, a biscuit tin is still a biscuit tin, even after you have eaten all the biscuits!
Example 1: Look, Mom: Grandma sent me a tin of biscuits for Christmas, and they're my favorite kind. I do wish she hadn't sent them in this old tobacco tin -- yucky!
Example 2: Grandma, are you going to use that empty biscuit tin? I'd like to have it to store part of my bottle cap collection.
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I agree generally with the previous responses, but have one minor detail to add.
Semantically, the difference between "a tin of biscuits" and a "biscuit tin" can be significant. The first refers to an object, a tin, which contains biscuits, whether or not it was originally meant for that purpose. The second refers to a tin which was made to contain biscuits. Thus, a biscuit tin is still a biscuit tin, even after you have eaten all the biscuits!
Example 1: Look, Mom: Grandma sent me a tin of biscuits for Christmas, and they're my favorite kind. I do wish she hadn't sent them in this old tobacco tin -- yucky!
Example 2: Grandma, are you going to use that empty biscuit tin? I'd like to have it to store part of my bottle cap collection.
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Compare it to A pack of crisps and a crisp packet. A box of shoes and a shoe box. a box of cigars and a cigar box. A barrel of oil and an oil barrel. A chest of treasure and a treasure chest, a barrel of wine and a wine barrel.
The first form states a substance, some items, associated with the container. The second form emphasizes the type of container, with or without it's contents.
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Compare it to A pack of crisps and a crisp packet. A box of shoes and a shoe box. a box of cigars and a cigar box. A barrel of oil and an oil barrel. A chest of treasure and a treasure chest, a barrel of wine and a wine barrel.
The first form states a substance, some items, associated with the container. The second form emphasizes the type of container, with or without it's contents.
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Compare it to A pack of crisps and a crisp packet. A box of shoes and a shoe box. a box of cigars and a cigar box. A barrel of oil and an oil barrel. A chest of treasure and a treasure chest, a barrel of wine and a wine barrel.
The first form states a substance, some items, associated with the container. The second form emphasizes the type of container, with or without it's contents.
Compare it to A pack of crisps and a crisp packet. A box of shoes and a shoe box. a box of cigars and a cigar box. A barrel of oil and an oil barrel. A chest of treasure and a treasure chest, a barrel of wine and a wine barrel.
The first form states a substance, some items, associated with the container. The second form emphasizes the type of container, with or without it's contents.
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StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
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