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Since the UK Supreme Court has ruled that the proroguing of the UK Parliament was illegal, is Boris Johnson personally culpable? Does this depend on whether the UK Parliament and its democratic representatives reconvene themselves? If it is reliant on their reconvening, does the criminality or non-criminality of Boris Johnson or other related parties depend on who took what action, and when and why? Details very useful here.










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@Machavity the illegality of Boris Johnson's actions has been established by the highest court in the country

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IANAL, but probably the only thing he could be charged with is misconduct in public office. I haven't seen anyone suggest that he should be charged (for this, this time).



The charge does not require one to break some explicit statue. It also applies "where there is no relevant statutory offence, but the behaviour or the circumstances are such that they should nevertheless be treated as criminal". The criteria are:




  • a public officer acting as such;

  • wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself;

  • to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder;

  • without reasonable excuse or justification.



However, last time Johnson was charged with this offence, by a private prosecutor, and for some political statements, it failed fairly quickly, when the granting of summons was appealed to the High Court.



Of course, the circumstances this time involve more than a statement, but insofar I haven't seen suggestions that he should be charged.




I don't know if the following argument meets all the legal criteria to be a good defence, but conceptually at least, the fact that the High Court of England ruled in favor of Johnson's government, could be used as an argument that "hey, it wasn't obviously unlawful before the Supreme Court decided so", i.e. this could be a valid excuse under bullet #4 from the criteria above.






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The notion of unlawful here means only that the prorogation does not comply with how the supreme court interprets the political rule book.



It doesn't actually mean any actual law was broken, or anything criminal occurred.



It is no different than saying, a law is unconstitutional. legislators who draft laws deemed unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court (which happens all the time) never face criminal charges. Because unconstitutional there only means it doesn't follow how the court interprets the constitution.






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  • Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

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  • "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

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While this is a small difference, the supreme court found that the prorogation was unlawful rather than illegal. This may seem pedantic, but the law is often so. Boris will not be charged with a crime, because there is no crime to charge him with.



It is possible that he will break a law over this, but until he has done so it is impossible for charges to be brought.






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    I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

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    @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

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  • It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

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  • Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

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Yes, but only if he tried the same thing twice



The courts of law are unlikely to rule this matter criminal in the first instance. However, if Boris Johnson were to try the same thing again, or were to attempt to disrupt the reconvening of parliament, he likely would be found in contempt of court, which is a criminal offense.






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    Most high courts (regardless of country) prefer to keep themselves out of the political process. When cases like this come up, they want to tailor things as narrowly as possible as to the question before them. In this case, the UK Supreme Court said this (trimmed for relevance)




    The power to prorogue is limited by the constitutional
    principles with which it would otherwise conflict. For present purposes, the relevant limit on the power to prorogue is this: that a decision to prorogue (or advise the monarch to prorogue) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In judging any justification which might be put forward, the court must of course be sensitive to the responsibilities and experience of the Prime Minister and proceed with appropriate caution.



    If the prorogation does have that effect, without reasonable justification, there is no need for the court to consider whether the Prime Minister’s motive or purpose was unlawful



    The third question, therefore, is whether this prorogation did have the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification. This was not a normal prorogation in the run-up to a Queen’s Speech.



    No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.



    The Court is bound to conclude, therefore, that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification.



    This Court has already concluded that the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect. This means that the Order in Council to which it led was also unlawful, void and of no effect and should be quashed. This means that when the Royal Commissioners walked into the House of Lords it was as if they walked in with a blank sheet of paper. The prorogation was also void and of no effect. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 Justices




    The question here was one of procedure. Trying to make this criminal would create all sorts of chaos. What laws would he be guilty of breaking? What sentence should be carried out? Could the Supreme Court have all of Parliament arrested for violating parliamentary procedures



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    The High Court nullified the order to prorogue. It did not accuse Mr. Johnson of having committed a crime, only having broken the procedures of Parliament.






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      IANAL, but probably the only thing he could be charged with is misconduct in public office. I haven't seen anyone suggest that he should be charged (for this, this time).



      The charge does not require one to break some explicit statue. It also applies "where there is no relevant statutory offence, but the behaviour or the circumstances are such that they should nevertheless be treated as criminal". The criteria are:




      • a public officer acting as such;

      • wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself;

      • to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder;

      • without reasonable excuse or justification.



      However, last time Johnson was charged with this offence, by a private prosecutor, and for some political statements, it failed fairly quickly, when the granting of summons was appealed to the High Court.



      Of course, the circumstances this time involve more than a statement, but insofar I haven't seen suggestions that he should be charged.




      I don't know if the following argument meets all the legal criteria to be a good defence, but conceptually at least, the fact that the High Court of England ruled in favor of Johnson's government, could be used as an argument that "hey, it wasn't obviously unlawful before the Supreme Court decided so", i.e. this could be a valid excuse under bullet #4 from the criteria above.






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      IANAL, but probably the only thing he could be charged with is misconduct in public office. I haven't seen anyone suggest that he should be charged (for this, this time).



      The charge does not require one to break some explicit statue. It also applies "where there is no relevant statutory offence, but the behaviour or the circumstances are such that they should nevertheless be treated as criminal". The criteria are:




      • a public officer acting as such;

      • wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself;

      • to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder;

      • without reasonable excuse or justification.



      However, last time Johnson was charged with this offence, by a private prosecutor, and for some political statements, it failed fairly quickly, when the granting of summons was appealed to the High Court.



      Of course, the circumstances this time involve more than a statement, but insofar I haven't seen suggestions that he should be charged.




      I don't know if the following argument meets all the legal criteria to be a good defence, but conceptually at least, the fact that the High Court of England ruled in favor of Johnson's government, could be used as an argument that "hey, it wasn't obviously unlawful before the Supreme Court decided so", i.e. this could be a valid excuse under bullet #4 from the criteria above.






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      IANAL, but probably the only thing he could be charged with is misconduct in public office. I haven't seen anyone suggest that he should be charged (for this, this time).



      The charge does not require one to break some explicit statue. It also applies "where there is no relevant statutory offence, but the behaviour or the circumstances are such that they should nevertheless be treated as criminal". The criteria are:




      • a public officer acting as such;

      • wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself;

      • to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder;

      • without reasonable excuse or justification.



      However, last time Johnson was charged with this offence, by a private prosecutor, and for some political statements, it failed fairly quickly, when the granting of summons was appealed to the High Court.



      Of course, the circumstances this time involve more than a statement, but insofar I haven't seen suggestions that he should be charged.




      I don't know if the following argument meets all the legal criteria to be a good defence, but conceptually at least, the fact that the High Court of England ruled in favor of Johnson's government, could be used as an argument that "hey, it wasn't obviously unlawful before the Supreme Court decided so", i.e. this could be a valid excuse under bullet #4 from the criteria above.






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      IANAL, but probably the only thing he could be charged with is misconduct in public office. I haven't seen anyone suggest that he should be charged (for this, this time).



      The charge does not require one to break some explicit statue. It also applies "where there is no relevant statutory offence, but the behaviour or the circumstances are such that they should nevertheless be treated as criminal". The criteria are:




      • a public officer acting as such;

      • wilfully neglects to perform his duty and/or wilfully misconducts himself;

      • to such a degree as to amount to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder;

      • without reasonable excuse or justification.



      However, last time Johnson was charged with this offence, by a private prosecutor, and for some political statements, it failed fairly quickly, when the granting of summons was appealed to the High Court.



      Of course, the circumstances this time involve more than a statement, but insofar I haven't seen suggestions that he should be charged.




      I don't know if the following argument meets all the legal criteria to be a good defence, but conceptually at least, the fact that the High Court of England ruled in favor of Johnson's government, could be used as an argument that "hey, it wasn't obviously unlawful before the Supreme Court decided so", i.e. this could be a valid excuse under bullet #4 from the criteria above.







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      I worries me if someone who is only by default our Prime Minister and has never been elected can dismiss parliament for an arbitrary length of time based on arbitrary reasons without even the idea they might face criminal charges

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      Also, sorry to seem SJW here, but shouldn't that have law have gender neutral language in this day and age. Question marks could be raised as to whether this applied to women at all, which would be inappropriate and unfair

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      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261



      The notion of unlawful here means only that the prorogation does not comply with how the supreme court interprets the political rule book.



      It doesn't actually mean any actual law was broken, or anything criminal occurred.



      It is no different than saying, a law is unconstitutional. legislators who draft laws deemed unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court (which happens all the time) never face criminal charges. Because unconstitutional there only means it doesn't follow how the court interprets the constitution.






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        What do you mean by "actual law"? It's a fuzzy concept in common law systems.

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      • Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

        – dolphin_of_france
        7 hours ago











      • Still really not clear on how a ruling of unlawful means a law wasn't broken. Clearly it was. It might not be a criminal one, but clearly, clearly if a supreme course rules something was unlawful then a law was broken

        – Peter David Carter
        4 hours ago












      • "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

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        2 hours ago











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      No.



      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261



      The notion of unlawful here means only that the prorogation does not comply with how the supreme court interprets the political rule book.



      It doesn't actually mean any actual law was broken, or anything criminal occurred.



      It is no different than saying, a law is unconstitutional. legislators who draft laws deemed unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court (which happens all the time) never face criminal charges. Because unconstitutional there only means it doesn't follow how the court interprets the constitution.






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        What do you mean by "actual law"? It's a fuzzy concept in common law systems.

        – phoog
        8 hours ago











      • Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

        – dolphin_of_france
        7 hours ago











      • Still really not clear on how a ruling of unlawful means a law wasn't broken. Clearly it was. It might not be a criminal one, but clearly, clearly if a supreme course rules something was unlawful then a law was broken

        – Peter David Carter
        4 hours ago












      • "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

        – Peter David Carter
        2 hours ago











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      No.



      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261



      The notion of unlawful here means only that the prorogation does not comply with how the supreme court interprets the political rule book.



      It doesn't actually mean any actual law was broken, or anything criminal occurred.



      It is no different than saying, a law is unconstitutional. legislators who draft laws deemed unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court (which happens all the time) never face criminal charges. Because unconstitutional there only means it doesn't follow how the court interprets the constitution.






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      No.



      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261



      The notion of unlawful here means only that the prorogation does not comply with how the supreme court interprets the political rule book.



      It doesn't actually mean any actual law was broken, or anything criminal occurred.



      It is no different than saying, a law is unconstitutional. legislators who draft laws deemed unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court (which happens all the time) never face criminal charges. Because unconstitutional there only means it doesn't follow how the court interprets the constitution.







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        What do you mean by "actual law"? It's a fuzzy concept in common law systems.

        – phoog
        8 hours ago











      • Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

        – dolphin_of_france
        7 hours ago











      • Still really not clear on how a ruling of unlawful means a law wasn't broken. Clearly it was. It might not be a criminal one, but clearly, clearly if a supreme course rules something was unlawful then a law was broken

        – Peter David Carter
        4 hours ago












      • "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

        – Peter David Carter
        2 hours ago











      • This answer really annoys me because a) it's wrong b) it's upvoted and c) its wrongness stands in direct opposition to the rule of democracy and law

        – Peter David Carter
        2 hours ago













      • 1





        What do you mean by "actual law"? It's a fuzzy concept in common law systems.

        – phoog
        8 hours ago











      • Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

        – dolphin_of_france
        7 hours ago











      • Still really not clear on how a ruling of unlawful means a law wasn't broken. Clearly it was. It might not be a criminal one, but clearly, clearly if a supreme course rules something was unlawful then a law was broken

        – Peter David Carter
        4 hours ago












      • "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

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        2 hours ago











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      What do you mean by "actual law"? It's a fuzzy concept in common law systems.

      – phoog
      8 hours ago





      What do you mean by "actual law"? It's a fuzzy concept in common law systems.

      – phoog
      8 hours ago













      Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

      – dolphin_of_france
      7 hours ago





      Making unconstitutional laws, passing unconstitutional laws, and even upholding (ultimately) unconstitutional laws is not a criminal offense, is not even a civil offense, is not an offense of any kind. what Boris did was a procedural move, and the referee deemed that unlawful. So he just has to make a different move.

      – dolphin_of_france
      7 hours ago













      Still really not clear on how a ruling of unlawful means a law wasn't broken. Clearly it was. It might not be a criminal one, but clearly, clearly if a supreme course rules something was unlawful then a law was broken

      – Peter David Carter
      4 hours ago






      Still really not clear on how a ruling of unlawful means a law wasn't broken. Clearly it was. It might not be a criminal one, but clearly, clearly if a supreme course rules something was unlawful then a law was broken

      – Peter David Carter
      4 hours ago














      "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

      – Peter David Carter
      2 hours ago





      "a decision to prorogue Parliament (or to advise the monarch to prorogue Parliament) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In such a situation, the court will intervene if the effect is sufficiently serious to justify such an exceptional course." <- the law that was broken

      – Peter David Carter
      2 hours ago













      This answer really annoys me because a) it's wrong b) it's upvoted and c) its wrongness stands in direct opposition to the rule of democracy and law

      – Peter David Carter
      2 hours ago






      This answer really annoys me because a) it's wrong b) it's upvoted and c) its wrongness stands in direct opposition to the rule of democracy and law

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      While this is a small difference, the supreme court found that the prorogation was unlawful rather than illegal. This may seem pedantic, but the law is often so. Boris will not be charged with a crime, because there is no crime to charge him with.



      It is possible that he will break a law over this, but until he has done so it is impossible for charges to be brought.






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        I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

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        @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

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      • It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

        – Steve Melnikoff
        8 hours ago











      • Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

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      While this is a small difference, the supreme court found that the prorogation was unlawful rather than illegal. This may seem pedantic, but the law is often so. Boris will not be charged with a crime, because there is no crime to charge him with.



      It is possible that he will break a law over this, but until he has done so it is impossible for charges to be brought.






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        I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

        – Peter David Carter
        8 hours ago







      • 2





        @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

        – TheBarrometer
        8 hours ago












      • It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

        – Steve Melnikoff
        8 hours ago











      • Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

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      While this is a small difference, the supreme court found that the prorogation was unlawful rather than illegal. This may seem pedantic, but the law is often so. Boris will not be charged with a crime, because there is no crime to charge him with.



      It is possible that he will break a law over this, but until he has done so it is impossible for charges to be brought.






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      While this is a small difference, the supreme court found that the prorogation was unlawful rather than illegal. This may seem pedantic, but the law is often so. Boris will not be charged with a crime, because there is no crime to charge him with.



      It is possible that he will break a law over this, but until he has done so it is impossible for charges to be brought.







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        I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

        – Peter David Carter
        8 hours ago







      • 2





        @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

        – TheBarrometer
        8 hours ago












      • It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

        – Steve Melnikoff
        8 hours ago











      • Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

        – Peter David Carter
        4 hours ago













      • 1





        I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

        – Peter David Carter
        8 hours ago







      • 2





        @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

        – TheBarrometer
        8 hours ago












      • It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

        – Steve Melnikoff
        8 hours ago











      • Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

        – Peter David Carter
        4 hours ago








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      I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

      – Peter David Carter
      8 hours ago






      I suppose the next question is: should it be a crime to 'prorogue' parliament on false premises, given the UK is supposed to be a democratic country. Sorry for the leading question here...

      – Peter David Carter
      8 hours ago





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      2





      @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

      – TheBarrometer
      8 hours ago






      @PeterDavidCarter Well again, there is a terminology problem with your follow up. Parliament was not dissolved (nor did Boris attempt to dissolve it). An attempt was made to prorogue parliament, but this is a very different act to dissolving it. Dissolving parliament happens just before a General Election, prorogation normally happens once a year. Prorogation ends the session within a Parliament, dissolving ends a Parliament.

      – TheBarrometer
      8 hours ago














      It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

      – Steve Melnikoff
      8 hours ago





      It could be argued that this is closer to ultra vires - i.e. the PM has the power to advise the Queen to prorogue parliament, but the court found that that power has limitations on its use; and in this instance the PM exceeded those limitations. As far as I can tell, the only penalty for a government or company which exceeds its legal authority in this way is for any such acts to be reversed - which is exactly what has happened here.

      – Steve Melnikoff
      8 hours ago













      Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

      – Peter David Carter
      4 hours ago






      Yeah, basically you're not allowed to lie to the queen in order to remove our democratically elected representatives from a position where they are able to question the government. Surely we're not ok to with this being an unlawful act without penalty. I mean, are we really going to keep making beaucratic excuses for someone running roughshod over democracy? Is there no criminal law that could be chargable here?

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      4 hours ago












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      Yes, but only if he tried the same thing twice



      The courts of law are unlikely to rule this matter criminal in the first instance. However, if Boris Johnson were to try the same thing again, or were to attempt to disrupt the reconvening of parliament, he likely would be found in contempt of court, which is a criminal offense.






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        Yes, but only if he tried the same thing twice



        The courts of law are unlikely to rule this matter criminal in the first instance. However, if Boris Johnson were to try the same thing again, or were to attempt to disrupt the reconvening of parliament, he likely would be found in contempt of court, which is a criminal offense.






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          Yes, but only if he tried the same thing twice



          The courts of law are unlikely to rule this matter criminal in the first instance. However, if Boris Johnson were to try the same thing again, or were to attempt to disrupt the reconvening of parliament, he likely would be found in contempt of court, which is a criminal offense.






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          Yes, but only if he tried the same thing twice



          The courts of law are unlikely to rule this matter criminal in the first instance. However, if Boris Johnson were to try the same thing again, or were to attempt to disrupt the reconvening of parliament, he likely would be found in contempt of court, which is a criminal offense.







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              Highly unlikely



              Most high courts (regardless of country) prefer to keep themselves out of the political process. When cases like this come up, they want to tailor things as narrowly as possible as to the question before them. In this case, the UK Supreme Court said this (trimmed for relevance)




              The power to prorogue is limited by the constitutional
              principles with which it would otherwise conflict. For present purposes, the relevant limit on the power to prorogue is this: that a decision to prorogue (or advise the monarch to prorogue) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In judging any justification which might be put forward, the court must of course be sensitive to the responsibilities and experience of the Prime Minister and proceed with appropriate caution.



              If the prorogation does have that effect, without reasonable justification, there is no need for the court to consider whether the Prime Minister’s motive or purpose was unlawful



              The third question, therefore, is whether this prorogation did have the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification. This was not a normal prorogation in the run-up to a Queen’s Speech.



              No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.



              The Court is bound to conclude, therefore, that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification.



              This Court has already concluded that the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect. This means that the Order in Council to which it led was also unlawful, void and of no effect and should be quashed. This means that when the Royal Commissioners walked into the House of Lords it was as if they walked in with a blank sheet of paper. The prorogation was also void and of no effect. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 Justices




              The question here was one of procedure. Trying to make this criminal would create all sorts of chaos. What laws would he be guilty of breaking? What sentence should be carried out? Could the Supreme Court have all of Parliament arrested for violating parliamentary procedures



              TL;DR



              The High Court nullified the order to prorogue. It did not accuse Mr. Johnson of having committed a crime, only having broken the procedures of Parliament.






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                Highly unlikely



                Most high courts (regardless of country) prefer to keep themselves out of the political process. When cases like this come up, they want to tailor things as narrowly as possible as to the question before them. In this case, the UK Supreme Court said this (trimmed for relevance)




                The power to prorogue is limited by the constitutional
                principles with which it would otherwise conflict. For present purposes, the relevant limit on the power to prorogue is this: that a decision to prorogue (or advise the monarch to prorogue) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In judging any justification which might be put forward, the court must of course be sensitive to the responsibilities and experience of the Prime Minister and proceed with appropriate caution.



                If the prorogation does have that effect, without reasonable justification, there is no need for the court to consider whether the Prime Minister’s motive or purpose was unlawful



                The third question, therefore, is whether this prorogation did have the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification. This was not a normal prorogation in the run-up to a Queen’s Speech.



                No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.



                The Court is bound to conclude, therefore, that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification.



                This Court has already concluded that the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect. This means that the Order in Council to which it led was also unlawful, void and of no effect and should be quashed. This means that when the Royal Commissioners walked into the House of Lords it was as if they walked in with a blank sheet of paper. The prorogation was also void and of no effect. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 Justices




                The question here was one of procedure. Trying to make this criminal would create all sorts of chaos. What laws would he be guilty of breaking? What sentence should be carried out? Could the Supreme Court have all of Parliament arrested for violating parliamentary procedures



                TL;DR



                The High Court nullified the order to prorogue. It did not accuse Mr. Johnson of having committed a crime, only having broken the procedures of Parliament.






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                  Highly unlikely



                  Most high courts (regardless of country) prefer to keep themselves out of the political process. When cases like this come up, they want to tailor things as narrowly as possible as to the question before them. In this case, the UK Supreme Court said this (trimmed for relevance)




                  The power to prorogue is limited by the constitutional
                  principles with which it would otherwise conflict. For present purposes, the relevant limit on the power to prorogue is this: that a decision to prorogue (or advise the monarch to prorogue) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In judging any justification which might be put forward, the court must of course be sensitive to the responsibilities and experience of the Prime Minister and proceed with appropriate caution.



                  If the prorogation does have that effect, without reasonable justification, there is no need for the court to consider whether the Prime Minister’s motive or purpose was unlawful



                  The third question, therefore, is whether this prorogation did have the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification. This was not a normal prorogation in the run-up to a Queen’s Speech.



                  No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.



                  The Court is bound to conclude, therefore, that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification.



                  This Court has already concluded that the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect. This means that the Order in Council to which it led was also unlawful, void and of no effect and should be quashed. This means that when the Royal Commissioners walked into the House of Lords it was as if they walked in with a blank sheet of paper. The prorogation was also void and of no effect. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 Justices




                  The question here was one of procedure. Trying to make this criminal would create all sorts of chaos. What laws would he be guilty of breaking? What sentence should be carried out? Could the Supreme Court have all of Parliament arrested for violating parliamentary procedures



                  TL;DR



                  The High Court nullified the order to prorogue. It did not accuse Mr. Johnson of having committed a crime, only having broken the procedures of Parliament.






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                  Highly unlikely



                  Most high courts (regardless of country) prefer to keep themselves out of the political process. When cases like this come up, they want to tailor things as narrowly as possible as to the question before them. In this case, the UK Supreme Court said this (trimmed for relevance)




                  The power to prorogue is limited by the constitutional
                  principles with which it would otherwise conflict. For present purposes, the relevant limit on the power to prorogue is this: that a decision to prorogue (or advise the monarch to prorogue) will be unlawful if the prorogation has the effect of frustrating or preventing, without reasonable justification, the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature and as the body responsible for the supervision of the executive. In judging any justification which might be put forward, the court must of course be sensitive to the responsibilities and experience of the Prime Minister and proceed with appropriate caution.



                  If the prorogation does have that effect, without reasonable justification, there is no need for the court to consider whether the Prime Minister’s motive or purpose was unlawful



                  The third question, therefore, is whether this prorogation did have the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification. This was not a normal prorogation in the run-up to a Queen’s Speech.



                  No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.



                  The Court is bound to conclude, therefore, that the decision to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification.



                  This Court has already concluded that the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty was unlawful, void and of no effect. This means that the Order in Council to which it led was also unlawful, void and of no effect and should be quashed. This means that when the Royal Commissioners walked into the House of Lords it was as if they walked in with a blank sheet of paper. The prorogation was also void and of no effect. Parliament has not been prorogued. This is the unanimous judgment of all 11 Justices




                  The question here was one of procedure. Trying to make this criminal would create all sorts of chaos. What laws would he be guilty of breaking? What sentence should be carried out? Could the Supreme Court have all of Parliament arrested for violating parliamentary procedures



                  TL;DR



                  The High Court nullified the order to prorogue. It did not accuse Mr. Johnson of having committed a crime, only having broken the procedures of Parliament.







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