Culture of over promising and under deliveringManager requesting task which I believe is unnecessaryInterviewing candidates for “bad” projectsDealing with a particularly irritating customer over a specific issueHow to professionally handle criticism for work that I have inherited?How can I deal with managers that refuse to accept use of common software engineering design patterns?How to prevent sales manager getting involved in operational problemsOn call duties are not distributed to anyone besides myself

Re-entering the UK after overstaying in 2008

GPLv3 forces us to make code available, but to who?

Missing quartile in boxplot

Should I be an author on another PhD student's paper if I went to their meetings and gave advice?

Could Boris Johnson face criminal charges for illegally proroguing Parliament?

Do jackscrews suffer from blowdown?

Why aren't faces sharp in my f/1.8 portraits even though I'm carefully using center-point autofocus?

Disable all sound permanently

Is it possible to do this kind of wavy texture procedurally?

Why not add cuspidal curves in the moduli space of stable curves?

How is this situation not a checkmate?

Short story about a potato hotel that makes its guests into potatoes throughout the night

Did the Soviet army intentionally send troops (e.g. penal battalions) running over minefields?

The answer is a girl's name (my future granddaughter) - can anyone help?

Wondering why they used ultrafast diodes in a 50 or 60Hz bridge?

Is the "spacetime" the same thing as the mathematical 4th dimension?

As a team leader is it appropriate to bring in fundraiser candy?

How to level a picture frame hung on a single nail?

A word that refers to saying something in an attempt to anger or embarrass someone into doing something that they don’t want to do?

Why does it seem the best way to make a living is to invest in real estate?

Realistically, how much do you need to start investing?

Is "weekend warrior" derogatory?

Can I cast Death Ward on additional creatures without causing previous castings to end?

Is there a pattern for handling conflicting function parameters?



Culture of over promising and under delivering


Manager requesting task which I believe is unnecessaryInterviewing candidates for “bad” projectsDealing with a particularly irritating customer over a specific issueHow to professionally handle criticism for work that I have inherited?How can I deal with managers that refuse to accept use of common software engineering design patterns?How to prevent sales manager getting involved in operational problemsOn call duties are not distributed to anyone besides myself






.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty
margin-bottom:0;









0















I have been at my company for over 3 years now and I see a very concerning pattern of people constantly over promising things and under delivering.



To give a little context, I work for a Saas company that provides critical business applications to clients. We are very sales focused and tend to make promises to larger prospects to win the business even if it means we have to build something custom for them. This in and of itself presents problems for a cloud based solution that hosts thousands of clients. It is not common that we will add little features here and there to satisfy a single clients needs adding complexity and extra configuration for customers.



I work as a product manager so I see this functional debt being added over time and what it does to the application. Often times when management promises things to clients it turns into us custom developing a solution to meet their exact needs. In some cases the customer quits because we promise to get them up and running on the solution by x date, without understanding the timeline of the feature development. In most cases we develop a specific feature and then they refuse to start using the software until other needs are met.



I have seen us waste hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to get large customers to use our software. It's extremely frustrating to me seeing it happen over and over again. It's at the point where people ask me if we can do something for a customer and I say no, but they end up selling the deal anyway.



I sometimes wonder if no one else learns from these mistakes. It seems like the upper management team does not. It's literally the definition of insanity in my mind. Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.



Does anyone else deal with this at their company or have any advice for how to deal with it?









share






























    0















    I have been at my company for over 3 years now and I see a very concerning pattern of people constantly over promising things and under delivering.



    To give a little context, I work for a Saas company that provides critical business applications to clients. We are very sales focused and tend to make promises to larger prospects to win the business even if it means we have to build something custom for them. This in and of itself presents problems for a cloud based solution that hosts thousands of clients. It is not common that we will add little features here and there to satisfy a single clients needs adding complexity and extra configuration for customers.



    I work as a product manager so I see this functional debt being added over time and what it does to the application. Often times when management promises things to clients it turns into us custom developing a solution to meet their exact needs. In some cases the customer quits because we promise to get them up and running on the solution by x date, without understanding the timeline of the feature development. In most cases we develop a specific feature and then they refuse to start using the software until other needs are met.



    I have seen us waste hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to get large customers to use our software. It's extremely frustrating to me seeing it happen over and over again. It's at the point where people ask me if we can do something for a customer and I say no, but they end up selling the deal anyway.



    I sometimes wonder if no one else learns from these mistakes. It seems like the upper management team does not. It's literally the definition of insanity in my mind. Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.



    Does anyone else deal with this at their company or have any advice for how to deal with it?









    share


























      0












      0








      0








      I have been at my company for over 3 years now and I see a very concerning pattern of people constantly over promising things and under delivering.



      To give a little context, I work for a Saas company that provides critical business applications to clients. We are very sales focused and tend to make promises to larger prospects to win the business even if it means we have to build something custom for them. This in and of itself presents problems for a cloud based solution that hosts thousands of clients. It is not common that we will add little features here and there to satisfy a single clients needs adding complexity and extra configuration for customers.



      I work as a product manager so I see this functional debt being added over time and what it does to the application. Often times when management promises things to clients it turns into us custom developing a solution to meet their exact needs. In some cases the customer quits because we promise to get them up and running on the solution by x date, without understanding the timeline of the feature development. In most cases we develop a specific feature and then they refuse to start using the software until other needs are met.



      I have seen us waste hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to get large customers to use our software. It's extremely frustrating to me seeing it happen over and over again. It's at the point where people ask me if we can do something for a customer and I say no, but they end up selling the deal anyway.



      I sometimes wonder if no one else learns from these mistakes. It seems like the upper management team does not. It's literally the definition of insanity in my mind. Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.



      Does anyone else deal with this at their company or have any advice for how to deal with it?









      share














      I have been at my company for over 3 years now and I see a very concerning pattern of people constantly over promising things and under delivering.



      To give a little context, I work for a Saas company that provides critical business applications to clients. We are very sales focused and tend to make promises to larger prospects to win the business even if it means we have to build something custom for them. This in and of itself presents problems for a cloud based solution that hosts thousands of clients. It is not common that we will add little features here and there to satisfy a single clients needs adding complexity and extra configuration for customers.



      I work as a product manager so I see this functional debt being added over time and what it does to the application. Often times when management promises things to clients it turns into us custom developing a solution to meet their exact needs. In some cases the customer quits because we promise to get them up and running on the solution by x date, without understanding the timeline of the feature development. In most cases we develop a specific feature and then they refuse to start using the software until other needs are met.



      I have seen us waste hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to get large customers to use our software. It's extremely frustrating to me seeing it happen over and over again. It's at the point where people ask me if we can do something for a customer and I say no, but they end up selling the deal anyway.



      I sometimes wonder if no one else learns from these mistakes. It seems like the upper management team does not. It's literally the definition of insanity in my mind. Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.



      Does anyone else deal with this at their company or have any advice for how to deal with it?







      software-industry





      share












      share










      share



      share










      asked 8 mins ago









      jmacncjmacnc

      193 bronze badges




      193 bronze badges























          0






          active

          oldest

          votes













          Your Answer








          StackExchange.ready(function()
          var channelOptions =
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "423"
          ;
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
          createEditor();
          );

          else
          createEditor();

          );

          function createEditor()
          StackExchange.prepareEditor(
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: false,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: null,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader:
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/"u003ecc by-sa 4.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          ,
          noCode: true, onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          );



          );














          draft saved

          draft discarded
















          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworkplace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f145515%2fculture-of-over-promising-and-under-delivering%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          0






          active

          oldest

          votes








          0






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes
















          draft saved

          draft discarded















































          Thanks for contributing an answer to The Workplace Stack Exchange!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid


          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworkplace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f145515%2fculture-of-over-promising-and-under-delivering%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          Popular posts from this blog

          Invision Community Contents History See also References External links Navigation menuProprietaryinvisioncommunity.comIPS Community ForumsIPS Community Forumsthis blog entry"License Changes, IP.Board 3.4, and the Future""Interview -- Matt Mecham of Ibforums""CEO Invision Power Board, Matt Mecham Is a Liar, Thief!"IPB License Explanation 1.3, 1.3.1, 2.0, and 2.1ArchivedSecurity Fixes, Updates And Enhancements For IPB 1.3.1Archived"New Demo Accounts - Invision Power Services"the original"New Default Skin"the original"Invision Power Board 3.0.0 and Applications Released"the original"Archived copy"the original"Perpetual licenses being done away with""Release Notes - Invision Power Services""Introducing: IPS Community Suite 4!"Invision Community Release Notes

          Canceling a color specificationRandomly assigning color to Graphics3D objects?Default color for Filling in Mathematica 9Coloring specific elements of sets with a prime modified order in an array plotHow to pick a color differing significantly from the colors already in a given color list?Detection of the text colorColor numbers based on their valueCan color schemes for use with ColorData include opacity specification?My dynamic color schemes

          Ласкавець круглолистий Зміст Опис | Поширення | Галерея | Примітки | Посилання | Навігаційне меню58171138361-22960890446Bupleurum rotundifoliumEuro+Med PlantbasePlants of the World Online — Kew ScienceGermplasm Resources Information Network (GRIN)Ласкавецькн. VI : Літери Ком — Левиправивши або дописавши її