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Given current technology, could TV display screens double as video camera sensors?
With current technology, what would be the best way to store energy for future generations?How could an interested billionaire deploy sensors to as much of the deep ocean as possible?Could humans alter the moon's orbit significantly with current technology?Given advanced technology, could Native Americans defeat aliens?With current technology, genetically modified virus able to end mankindCould the moon be destroyed with current technology?Could active sensors be used to learn more about a spacecraft's systems?Could aliens with a WW2 technology level steal and use technology from current day humanity?With current or near-future technology, how plausible is an aircraft-based civilization?Could we build a massive “Ark” type space station with current technology?
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This was inspired by this YouTube video titled "Why all solar panels are secretly LEDs (and all LEDs are secretly solar panels)" and the fact that speakers and microphones are similarly related.
So thinking about a contemporary-technology dystopian surveillance society where LED TVs are built so that the behavior of
- the display can be switched between display mode and camera mode, and
- the speakers can be switched between speaker mode and microphone mode
The smart TVs would do this switching rapidly from the OS running on the TVs while the television is "in use".
In camera mode the TV screen would function as a (infra red?) camera sensor and record what it sees in the room while the speakers record the audio. All the data would be sent somewhere for further processing.
To what degree would this be feasible given current technology, and considering also aspects such as that the flat TV screen would lack a lens and possible aperture control?
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This was inspired by this YouTube video titled "Why all solar panels are secretly LEDs (and all LEDs are secretly solar panels)" and the fact that speakers and microphones are similarly related.
So thinking about a contemporary-technology dystopian surveillance society where LED TVs are built so that the behavior of
- the display can be switched between display mode and camera mode, and
- the speakers can be switched between speaker mode and microphone mode
The smart TVs would do this switching rapidly from the OS running on the TVs while the television is "in use".
In camera mode the TV screen would function as a (infra red?) camera sensor and record what it sees in the room while the speakers record the audio. All the data would be sent somewhere for further processing.
To what degree would this be feasible given current technology, and considering also aspects such as that the flat TV screen would lack a lens and possible aperture control?
reality-check technology
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Optics doesn't work this way. Before being concerned with a sensor, you must first arrange to create an image. (What the sensor does is convert an image into a chemical or electrical signal.) In order to create an image you need one or more pinholes or lenses. Without one/many pinholes or lenses all you can sense is the general level of illumination. And while it is indeed true that electrical machines are reversible, a speaker makes a terrible microphone, and a microphone makes a terrible speaker.
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This was inspired by this YouTube video titled "Why all solar panels are secretly LEDs (and all LEDs are secretly solar panels)" and the fact that speakers and microphones are similarly related.
So thinking about a contemporary-technology dystopian surveillance society where LED TVs are built so that the behavior of
- the display can be switched between display mode and camera mode, and
- the speakers can be switched between speaker mode and microphone mode
The smart TVs would do this switching rapidly from the OS running on the TVs while the television is "in use".
In camera mode the TV screen would function as a (infra red?) camera sensor and record what it sees in the room while the speakers record the audio. All the data would be sent somewhere for further processing.
To what degree would this be feasible given current technology, and considering also aspects such as that the flat TV screen would lack a lens and possible aperture control?
reality-check technology
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This was inspired by this YouTube video titled "Why all solar panels are secretly LEDs (and all LEDs are secretly solar panels)" and the fact that speakers and microphones are similarly related.
So thinking about a contemporary-technology dystopian surveillance society where LED TVs are built so that the behavior of
- the display can be switched between display mode and camera mode, and
- the speakers can be switched between speaker mode and microphone mode
The smart TVs would do this switching rapidly from the OS running on the TVs while the television is "in use".
In camera mode the TV screen would function as a (infra red?) camera sensor and record what it sees in the room while the speakers record the audio. All the data would be sent somewhere for further processing.
To what degree would this be feasible given current technology, and considering also aspects such as that the flat TV screen would lack a lens and possible aperture control?
reality-check technology
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Optics doesn't work this way. Before being concerned with a sensor, you must first arrange to create an image. (What the sensor does is convert an image into a chemical or electrical signal.) In order to create an image you need one or more pinholes or lenses. Without one/many pinholes or lenses all you can sense is the general level of illumination. And while it is indeed true that electrical machines are reversible, a speaker makes a terrible microphone, and a microphone makes a terrible speaker.
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Optics doesn't work this way. Before being concerned with a sensor, you must first arrange to create an image. (What the sensor does is convert an image into a chemical or electrical signal.) In order to create an image you need one or more pinholes or lenses. Without one/many pinholes or lenses all you can sense is the general level of illumination. And while it is indeed true that electrical machines are reversible, a speaker makes a terrible microphone, and a microphone makes a terrible speaker.
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Optics doesn't work this way. Before being concerned with a sensor, you must first arrange to create an image. (What the sensor does is convert an image into a chemical or electrical signal.) In order to create an image you need one or more pinholes or lenses. Without one/many pinholes or lenses all you can sense is the general level of illumination. And while it is indeed true that electrical machines are reversible, a speaker makes a terrible microphone, and a microphone makes a terrible speaker.
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– AlexP
6 hours ago
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Optics doesn't work this way. Before being concerned with a sensor, you must first arrange to create an image. (What the sensor does is convert an image into a chemical or electrical signal.) In order to create an image you need one or more pinholes or lenses. Without one/many pinholes or lenses all you can sense is the general level of illumination. And while it is indeed true that electrical machines are reversible, a speaker makes a terrible microphone, and a microphone makes a terrible speaker.
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Screens these days are sheets of LED lights so that might work as a solar panel but not as a camera. At best you might measure ambient light levels perhaps but no camera.
That said TV these days are coming out with built in cameras and microphones and will get worse as time goes by. Things like Google Assistant and Alexa will come built into a lot of household devices.
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As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
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– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
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Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
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– Thorne
3 hours ago
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@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
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Even IF - Why would you want to take a photo with zero (or near few mm) field of vision and a lot of blur?
Because TV screen would (could) act like a photosensitive paper (or if you are old enough camera film). There would be no lens to focus, no apertures to set the amount of light, no pinholes that would allow you to point to certain area.
Screen would take light from everywhere that is not behind the TV. And what would be behind the TV would (could) still have ambient light. So a photo taken with such screen would be very bright (white) on border going to greyish in the middle.
Just put a normal camera in the TV. Speakers can work as microphones anyway.
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No
Screens these days are sheets of LED lights so that might work as a solar panel but not as a camera. At best you might measure ambient light levels perhaps but no camera.
That said TV these days are coming out with built in cameras and microphones and will get worse as time goes by. Things like Google Assistant and Alexa will come built into a lot of household devices.
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As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
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– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
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Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
$endgroup$
– Thorne
3 hours ago
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@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
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– a4android
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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No
Screens these days are sheets of LED lights so that might work as a solar panel but not as a camera. At best you might measure ambient light levels perhaps but no camera.
That said TV these days are coming out with built in cameras and microphones and will get worse as time goes by. Things like Google Assistant and Alexa will come built into a lot of household devices.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
$endgroup$
– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
$endgroup$
– Thorne
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
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– a4android
1 hour ago
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No
Screens these days are sheets of LED lights so that might work as a solar panel but not as a camera. At best you might measure ambient light levels perhaps but no camera.
That said TV these days are coming out with built in cameras and microphones and will get worse as time goes by. Things like Google Assistant and Alexa will come built into a lot of household devices.
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No
Screens these days are sheets of LED lights so that might work as a solar panel but not as a camera. At best you might measure ambient light levels perhaps but no camera.
That said TV these days are coming out with built in cameras and microphones and will get worse as time goes by. Things like Google Assistant and Alexa will come built into a lot of household devices.
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As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
$endgroup$
– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
$endgroup$
– Thorne
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
$endgroup$
– a4android
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
$endgroup$
– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
$endgroup$
– Thorne
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
$endgroup$
– a4android
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
$endgroup$
– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
As the Answer said, you do not need this, because TVs can have cameras and microphones (and other sensors) equipped and can have a connection to the internet. Additionally, even in western democraties in our real world, people are buying devices that can spy on them. They literally pay for that! So it would be no problem for your evil opressian dictatorship to plaster the streets, houses and homes with microphones, cameras and other sensors. Any smartphone can be used to spy on the wearer. You think much to much in terms of 1984, but thats more that 30 years ago - today even more is possible
$endgroup$
– Julian Egner
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
$endgroup$
– Thorne
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Already now, software can hack your phone and turn it into a bug you carry around with you. Better than any TV spying system.
$endgroup$
– Thorne
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
$endgroup$
– a4android
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@JulianEgner Actually it's in terms of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-four (1949), where telescreens were two-way TV's. The novel was published seventy years ago. Amusingly large-scale surveillance has expanded & flourished once we passed the witching year of 1984.
$endgroup$
– a4android
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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Even IF - Why would you want to take a photo with zero (or near few mm) field of vision and a lot of blur?
Because TV screen would (could) act like a photosensitive paper (or if you are old enough camera film). There would be no lens to focus, no apertures to set the amount of light, no pinholes that would allow you to point to certain area.
Screen would take light from everywhere that is not behind the TV. And what would be behind the TV would (could) still have ambient light. So a photo taken with such screen would be very bright (white) on border going to greyish in the middle.
Just put a normal camera in the TV. Speakers can work as microphones anyway.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
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Even IF - Why would you want to take a photo with zero (or near few mm) field of vision and a lot of blur?
Because TV screen would (could) act like a photosensitive paper (or if you are old enough camera film). There would be no lens to focus, no apertures to set the amount of light, no pinholes that would allow you to point to certain area.
Screen would take light from everywhere that is not behind the TV. And what would be behind the TV would (could) still have ambient light. So a photo taken with such screen would be very bright (white) on border going to greyish in the middle.
Just put a normal camera in the TV. Speakers can work as microphones anyway.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Even IF - Why would you want to take a photo with zero (or near few mm) field of vision and a lot of blur?
Because TV screen would (could) act like a photosensitive paper (or if you are old enough camera film). There would be no lens to focus, no apertures to set the amount of light, no pinholes that would allow you to point to certain area.
Screen would take light from everywhere that is not behind the TV. And what would be behind the TV would (could) still have ambient light. So a photo taken with such screen would be very bright (white) on border going to greyish in the middle.
Just put a normal camera in the TV. Speakers can work as microphones anyway.
$endgroup$
Even IF - Why would you want to take a photo with zero (or near few mm) field of vision and a lot of blur?
Because TV screen would (could) act like a photosensitive paper (or if you are old enough camera film). There would be no lens to focus, no apertures to set the amount of light, no pinholes that would allow you to point to certain area.
Screen would take light from everywhere that is not behind the TV. And what would be behind the TV would (could) still have ambient light. So a photo taken with such screen would be very bright (white) on border going to greyish in the middle.
Just put a normal camera in the TV. Speakers can work as microphones anyway.
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Optics doesn't work this way. Before being concerned with a sensor, you must first arrange to create an image. (What the sensor does is convert an image into a chemical or electrical signal.) In order to create an image you need one or more pinholes or lenses. Without one/many pinholes or lenses all you can sense is the general level of illumination. And while it is indeed true that electrical machines are reversible, a speaker makes a terrible microphone, and a microphone makes a terrible speaker.
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