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It has been stated here : https://phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html that the the so-called Kravchuk transform is very important in the field of image processing and possibly in signal processing in general.



I can hardly find any description about this (e.g. not mentioned in Wikipedia, etc.).



It seems to be mentioned in this paper for example:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24147178_Mode_analysis_and_signal_restoration_with_Kravchuk_functions










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    It has been stated here : https://phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html that the the so-called Kravchuk transform is very important in the field of image processing and possibly in signal processing in general.



    I can hardly find any description about this (e.g. not mentioned in Wikipedia, etc.).



    It seems to be mentioned in this paper for example:
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24147178_Mode_analysis_and_signal_restoration_with_Kravchuk_functions










    share|improve this question









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      $begingroup$


      It has been stated here : https://phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html that the the so-called Kravchuk transform is very important in the field of image processing and possibly in signal processing in general.



      I can hardly find any description about this (e.g. not mentioned in Wikipedia, etc.).



      It seems to be mentioned in this paper for example:
      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24147178_Mode_analysis_and_signal_restoration_with_Kravchuk_functions










      share|improve this question









      $endgroup$




      It has been stated here : https://phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html that the the so-called Kravchuk transform is very important in the field of image processing and possibly in signal processing in general.



      I can hardly find any description about this (e.g. not mentioned in Wikipedia, etc.).



      It seems to be mentioned in this paper for example:
      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24147178_Mode_analysis_and_signal_restoration_with_Kravchuk_functions







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          Transliterations of Ukrainian names have different avatars. You can find Kravchuk polynomials, and other papers like On Krawtchouk Transforms or Krawtchouk polynomials and Krawtchouk matrices. You can find as well Kravchuk orthogonal polynomials.



          As they form an orthogonal basis of polynomials (as well as many others, listed on polpak: Bernoulli, Bernstein, Chebyshev, Hermite, Laguerre, Legendre, Zernike), they are candidates for a transform. Derived moments are used in image processing, and the following paper seems to have a wide audience:




          • Image analysis by Krawtchouk moments, IEEE Transactions on Image Processing 2003


          A new set of orthogonal moments based on the discrete classical
          Krawtchouk polynomials is introduced. The Krawtchouk polynomials are
          scaled to ensure numerical stability, thus creating a set of weighted
          Krawtchouk polynomials. The set of proposed Krawtchouk moments is then
          derived from the weighted Krawtchouk polynomials. The orthogonality of
          the proposed moments ensures minimal information redundancy. No
          numerical approximation is involved in deriving the moments, since the
          weighted Krawtchouk polynomials are discrete. These properties make
          the Krawtchouk moments well suited as pattern features in the analysis
          of two-dimensional images. It is shown that the Krawtchouk moments can
          be employed to extract local features of an image, unlike other
          orthogonal moments, which generally capture the global features. The
          computational aspects of the moments using the recursive and symmetry
          properties are discussed. The theoretical framework is validated by an
          experiment on image reconstruction using Krawtchouk moments and the
          results are compared to that of Zernike, pseudo-Zernike, Legendre, and
          Tchebyscheff moments. Krawtchouk moment invariants are constructed
          using a linear combination of geometric moment invariants; an object
          recognition experiment shows Krawtchouk moment invariants perform
          significantly better than Hu's moment invariants in both noise-free
          and noisy conditions.




          Later, you can read:




          • Image Analysis Using Hahn Moments, IEEE Transactions on Pattern Analysis and Machine, 2007, where Hahn moments generalize Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments:


          This paper shows how Hahn moments provide a unified understanding of
          the recently introduced Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments. The two
          latter moments can be obtained as particular cases of Hahn moments
          with the appropriate parameter settings and this fact implies that
          Hahn moments encompass all their properties. The aim of this paper is
          twofold: (1) To show how Hahn moments, as a generalization of
          Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments, can be used for global and local
          feature extraction and (2) to show how Hahn moments can be
          incorporated into the framework of normalized convolution to analyze
          local structures of irregularly sampled signals.




          In Wikipedia's Discrete Fourier transform we find:




          The choice of eigenvectors of the DFT matrix has become important in
          recent years in order to define a discrete analogue of the fractional
          Fourier transform—the DFT matrix can be taken to fractional powers by
          exponentiating the eigenvalues (e.g., Rubio and Santhanam, 2005). For
          the continuous Fourier transform, the natural orthogonal
          eigenfunctions are the Hermite functions, so various discrete
          analogues of these have been employed as the eigenvectors of the DFT,
          such as the Kravchuk polynomials (Atakishiyev and Wolf, 1997). The
          "best" choice of eigenvectors to define a fractional discrete Fourier
          transform remains an open question, however.







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          • $begingroup$
            Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            8 hours ago










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            There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
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            – Laurent Duval
            7 hours ago






          • 1




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            ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




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            oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




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            This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
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            7 hours ago













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          Transliterations of Ukrainian names have different avatars. You can find Kravchuk polynomials, and other papers like On Krawtchouk Transforms or Krawtchouk polynomials and Krawtchouk matrices. You can find as well Kravchuk orthogonal polynomials.



          As they form an orthogonal basis of polynomials (as well as many others, listed on polpak: Bernoulli, Bernstein, Chebyshev, Hermite, Laguerre, Legendre, Zernike), they are candidates for a transform. Derived moments are used in image processing, and the following paper seems to have a wide audience:




          • Image analysis by Krawtchouk moments, IEEE Transactions on Image Processing 2003


          A new set of orthogonal moments based on the discrete classical
          Krawtchouk polynomials is introduced. The Krawtchouk polynomials are
          scaled to ensure numerical stability, thus creating a set of weighted
          Krawtchouk polynomials. The set of proposed Krawtchouk moments is then
          derived from the weighted Krawtchouk polynomials. The orthogonality of
          the proposed moments ensures minimal information redundancy. No
          numerical approximation is involved in deriving the moments, since the
          weighted Krawtchouk polynomials are discrete. These properties make
          the Krawtchouk moments well suited as pattern features in the analysis
          of two-dimensional images. It is shown that the Krawtchouk moments can
          be employed to extract local features of an image, unlike other
          orthogonal moments, which generally capture the global features. The
          computational aspects of the moments using the recursive and symmetry
          properties are discussed. The theoretical framework is validated by an
          experiment on image reconstruction using Krawtchouk moments and the
          results are compared to that of Zernike, pseudo-Zernike, Legendre, and
          Tchebyscheff moments. Krawtchouk moment invariants are constructed
          using a linear combination of geometric moment invariants; an object
          recognition experiment shows Krawtchouk moment invariants perform
          significantly better than Hu's moment invariants in both noise-free
          and noisy conditions.




          Later, you can read:




          • Image Analysis Using Hahn Moments, IEEE Transactions on Pattern Analysis and Machine, 2007, where Hahn moments generalize Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments:


          This paper shows how Hahn moments provide a unified understanding of
          the recently introduced Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments. The two
          latter moments can be obtained as particular cases of Hahn moments
          with the appropriate parameter settings and this fact implies that
          Hahn moments encompass all their properties. The aim of this paper is
          twofold: (1) To show how Hahn moments, as a generalization of
          Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments, can be used for global and local
          feature extraction and (2) to show how Hahn moments can be
          incorporated into the framework of normalized convolution to analyze
          local structures of irregularly sampled signals.




          In Wikipedia's Discrete Fourier transform we find:




          The choice of eigenvectors of the DFT matrix has become important in
          recent years in order to define a discrete analogue of the fractional
          Fourier transform—the DFT matrix can be taken to fractional powers by
          exponentiating the eigenvalues (e.g., Rubio and Santhanam, 2005). For
          the continuous Fourier transform, the natural orthogonal
          eigenfunctions are the Hermite functions, so various discrete
          analogues of these have been employed as the eigenvectors of the DFT,
          such as the Kravchuk polynomials (Atakishiyev and Wolf, 1997). The
          "best" choice of eigenvectors to define a fractional discrete Fourier
          transform remains an open question, however.







          share|improve this answer











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          • $begingroup$
            Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            8 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
            $endgroup$
            – Laurent Duval
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
            $endgroup$
            – Cedron Dawg
            7 hours ago















          4












          $begingroup$

          Transliterations of Ukrainian names have different avatars. You can find Kravchuk polynomials, and other papers like On Krawtchouk Transforms or Krawtchouk polynomials and Krawtchouk matrices. You can find as well Kravchuk orthogonal polynomials.



          As they form an orthogonal basis of polynomials (as well as many others, listed on polpak: Bernoulli, Bernstein, Chebyshev, Hermite, Laguerre, Legendre, Zernike), they are candidates for a transform. Derived moments are used in image processing, and the following paper seems to have a wide audience:




          • Image analysis by Krawtchouk moments, IEEE Transactions on Image Processing 2003


          A new set of orthogonal moments based on the discrete classical
          Krawtchouk polynomials is introduced. The Krawtchouk polynomials are
          scaled to ensure numerical stability, thus creating a set of weighted
          Krawtchouk polynomials. The set of proposed Krawtchouk moments is then
          derived from the weighted Krawtchouk polynomials. The orthogonality of
          the proposed moments ensures minimal information redundancy. No
          numerical approximation is involved in deriving the moments, since the
          weighted Krawtchouk polynomials are discrete. These properties make
          the Krawtchouk moments well suited as pattern features in the analysis
          of two-dimensional images. It is shown that the Krawtchouk moments can
          be employed to extract local features of an image, unlike other
          orthogonal moments, which generally capture the global features. The
          computational aspects of the moments using the recursive and symmetry
          properties are discussed. The theoretical framework is validated by an
          experiment on image reconstruction using Krawtchouk moments and the
          results are compared to that of Zernike, pseudo-Zernike, Legendre, and
          Tchebyscheff moments. Krawtchouk moment invariants are constructed
          using a linear combination of geometric moment invariants; an object
          recognition experiment shows Krawtchouk moment invariants perform
          significantly better than Hu's moment invariants in both noise-free
          and noisy conditions.




          Later, you can read:




          • Image Analysis Using Hahn Moments, IEEE Transactions on Pattern Analysis and Machine, 2007, where Hahn moments generalize Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments:


          This paper shows how Hahn moments provide a unified understanding of
          the recently introduced Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments. The two
          latter moments can be obtained as particular cases of Hahn moments
          with the appropriate parameter settings and this fact implies that
          Hahn moments encompass all their properties. The aim of this paper is
          twofold: (1) To show how Hahn moments, as a generalization of
          Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments, can be used for global and local
          feature extraction and (2) to show how Hahn moments can be
          incorporated into the framework of normalized convolution to analyze
          local structures of irregularly sampled signals.




          In Wikipedia's Discrete Fourier transform we find:




          The choice of eigenvectors of the DFT matrix has become important in
          recent years in order to define a discrete analogue of the fractional
          Fourier transform—the DFT matrix can be taken to fractional powers by
          exponentiating the eigenvalues (e.g., Rubio and Santhanam, 2005). For
          the continuous Fourier transform, the natural orthogonal
          eigenfunctions are the Hermite functions, so various discrete
          analogues of these have been employed as the eigenvectors of the DFT,
          such as the Kravchuk polynomials (Atakishiyev and Wolf, 1997). The
          "best" choice of eigenvectors to define a fractional discrete Fourier
          transform remains an open question, however.







          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            8 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
            $endgroup$
            – Laurent Duval
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
            $endgroup$
            – Cedron Dawg
            7 hours ago













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          $begingroup$

          Transliterations of Ukrainian names have different avatars. You can find Kravchuk polynomials, and other papers like On Krawtchouk Transforms or Krawtchouk polynomials and Krawtchouk matrices. You can find as well Kravchuk orthogonal polynomials.



          As they form an orthogonal basis of polynomials (as well as many others, listed on polpak: Bernoulli, Bernstein, Chebyshev, Hermite, Laguerre, Legendre, Zernike), they are candidates for a transform. Derived moments are used in image processing, and the following paper seems to have a wide audience:




          • Image analysis by Krawtchouk moments, IEEE Transactions on Image Processing 2003


          A new set of orthogonal moments based on the discrete classical
          Krawtchouk polynomials is introduced. The Krawtchouk polynomials are
          scaled to ensure numerical stability, thus creating a set of weighted
          Krawtchouk polynomials. The set of proposed Krawtchouk moments is then
          derived from the weighted Krawtchouk polynomials. The orthogonality of
          the proposed moments ensures minimal information redundancy. No
          numerical approximation is involved in deriving the moments, since the
          weighted Krawtchouk polynomials are discrete. These properties make
          the Krawtchouk moments well suited as pattern features in the analysis
          of two-dimensional images. It is shown that the Krawtchouk moments can
          be employed to extract local features of an image, unlike other
          orthogonal moments, which generally capture the global features. The
          computational aspects of the moments using the recursive and symmetry
          properties are discussed. The theoretical framework is validated by an
          experiment on image reconstruction using Krawtchouk moments and the
          results are compared to that of Zernike, pseudo-Zernike, Legendre, and
          Tchebyscheff moments. Krawtchouk moment invariants are constructed
          using a linear combination of geometric moment invariants; an object
          recognition experiment shows Krawtchouk moment invariants perform
          significantly better than Hu's moment invariants in both noise-free
          and noisy conditions.




          Later, you can read:




          • Image Analysis Using Hahn Moments, IEEE Transactions on Pattern Analysis and Machine, 2007, where Hahn moments generalize Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments:


          This paper shows how Hahn moments provide a unified understanding of
          the recently introduced Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments. The two
          latter moments can be obtained as particular cases of Hahn moments
          with the appropriate parameter settings and this fact implies that
          Hahn moments encompass all their properties. The aim of this paper is
          twofold: (1) To show how Hahn moments, as a generalization of
          Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments, can be used for global and local
          feature extraction and (2) to show how Hahn moments can be
          incorporated into the framework of normalized convolution to analyze
          local structures of irregularly sampled signals.




          In Wikipedia's Discrete Fourier transform we find:




          The choice of eigenvectors of the DFT matrix has become important in
          recent years in order to define a discrete analogue of the fractional
          Fourier transform—the DFT matrix can be taken to fractional powers by
          exponentiating the eigenvalues (e.g., Rubio and Santhanam, 2005). For
          the continuous Fourier transform, the natural orthogonal
          eigenfunctions are the Hermite functions, so various discrete
          analogues of these have been employed as the eigenvectors of the DFT,
          such as the Kravchuk polynomials (Atakishiyev and Wolf, 1997). The
          "best" choice of eigenvectors to define a fractional discrete Fourier
          transform remains an open question, however.







          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Transliterations of Ukrainian names have different avatars. You can find Kravchuk polynomials, and other papers like On Krawtchouk Transforms or Krawtchouk polynomials and Krawtchouk matrices. You can find as well Kravchuk orthogonal polynomials.



          As they form an orthogonal basis of polynomials (as well as many others, listed on polpak: Bernoulli, Bernstein, Chebyshev, Hermite, Laguerre, Legendre, Zernike), they are candidates for a transform. Derived moments are used in image processing, and the following paper seems to have a wide audience:




          • Image analysis by Krawtchouk moments, IEEE Transactions on Image Processing 2003


          A new set of orthogonal moments based on the discrete classical
          Krawtchouk polynomials is introduced. The Krawtchouk polynomials are
          scaled to ensure numerical stability, thus creating a set of weighted
          Krawtchouk polynomials. The set of proposed Krawtchouk moments is then
          derived from the weighted Krawtchouk polynomials. The orthogonality of
          the proposed moments ensures minimal information redundancy. No
          numerical approximation is involved in deriving the moments, since the
          weighted Krawtchouk polynomials are discrete. These properties make
          the Krawtchouk moments well suited as pattern features in the analysis
          of two-dimensional images. It is shown that the Krawtchouk moments can
          be employed to extract local features of an image, unlike other
          orthogonal moments, which generally capture the global features. The
          computational aspects of the moments using the recursive and symmetry
          properties are discussed. The theoretical framework is validated by an
          experiment on image reconstruction using Krawtchouk moments and the
          results are compared to that of Zernike, pseudo-Zernike, Legendre, and
          Tchebyscheff moments. Krawtchouk moment invariants are constructed
          using a linear combination of geometric moment invariants; an object
          recognition experiment shows Krawtchouk moment invariants perform
          significantly better than Hu's moment invariants in both noise-free
          and noisy conditions.




          Later, you can read:




          • Image Analysis Using Hahn Moments, IEEE Transactions on Pattern Analysis and Machine, 2007, where Hahn moments generalize Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments:


          This paper shows how Hahn moments provide a unified understanding of
          the recently introduced Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments. The two
          latter moments can be obtained as particular cases of Hahn moments
          with the appropriate parameter settings and this fact implies that
          Hahn moments encompass all their properties. The aim of this paper is
          twofold: (1) To show how Hahn moments, as a generalization of
          Chebyshev and Krawtchouk moments, can be used for global and local
          feature extraction and (2) to show how Hahn moments can be
          incorporated into the framework of normalized convolution to analyze
          local structures of irregularly sampled signals.




          In Wikipedia's Discrete Fourier transform we find:




          The choice of eigenvectors of the DFT matrix has become important in
          recent years in order to define a discrete analogue of the fractional
          Fourier transform—the DFT matrix can be taken to fractional powers by
          exponentiating the eigenvalues (e.g., Rubio and Santhanam, 2005). For
          the continuous Fourier transform, the natural orthogonal
          eigenfunctions are the Hermite functions, so various discrete
          analogues of these have been employed as the eigenvectors of the DFT,
          such as the Kravchuk polynomials (Atakishiyev and Wolf, 1997). The
          "best" choice of eigenvectors to define a fractional discrete Fourier
          transform remains an open question, however.








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          • $begingroup$
            Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            8 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
            $endgroup$
            – Laurent Duval
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
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            – Cedron Dawg
            7 hours ago
















          • $begingroup$
            Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
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            – Machupicchu
            8 hours ago










          • $begingroup$
            There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
            $endgroup$
            – Laurent Duval
            7 hours ago






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            $begingroup$
            ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
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            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






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            $begingroup$
            oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
            $endgroup$
            – Machupicchu
            7 hours ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
            $endgroup$
            – Cedron Dawg
            7 hours ago















          $begingroup$
          Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
          $endgroup$
          – Machupicchu
          8 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          Can we said that "Kravchouk transform" usually is a "fractional Fourier transform"?
          $endgroup$
          – Machupicchu
          8 hours ago












          $begingroup$
          There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
          $endgroup$
          – Laurent Duval
          7 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          There are ambiguities on what people call "fractional Fourier transforms", and I am not a practitioner of the Fractional Fourier–Kravchuk transform, but I doubt there is a one-to-one correspondance
          $endgroup$
          – Laurent Duval
          7 hours ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
          $endgroup$
          – Machupicchu
          7 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          ah ok. It seems strange that they cite this obscure Kravchouk in phys.org/news/2019-07-quantum-technology.html as it does not seem to be known by many DSP people ?
          $endgroup$
          – Machupicchu
          7 hours ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
          $endgroup$
          – Machupicchu
          7 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          oh ok. So you would say it is "overstated" as important?
          $endgroup$
          – Machupicchu
          7 hours ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
          $endgroup$
          – Cedron Dawg
          7 hours ago




          $begingroup$
          This is another area where keeping the distinction and relationship between the discrete and continuous case is important. I like to use Legendre polynomials. I tend to think of them as "the orthogonal Taylor series", however, the discrete version in not orthogonal. You need to apply something like Gram-Schmidt (G-S) to rectify that for discrete usage. Then keeping the same N becomes important.
          $endgroup$
          – Cedron Dawg
          7 hours ago

















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