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Other than a swing wing, what types of variable geometry have flown?


What are the advantages and disadvantages of an oblique wing over a swing wing?Which airplane designs have the greatest longevity?Did the Swiss Air Force assist Austria in self-defence during the Yugoslav War?What impact did the Concorde have on business of other sub-sonic airliners?Could a blown wing ever be powerful enough to lift an aircraft at zero forward velocity?What are the advantages of a variable-incidence wing as used in the F-8?Could Concorde have used swing wings?Have other designs for individual gasper ventilation been tried?Did the contemporaries of the F-14 also have automatic swing wings?Did WW2-era aircraft have constant-speed or variable-pitch props?What would have been the other stops of Amelia Earhart's ill fated last voyage?






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      What other types of variable geometry have been tried?







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          Extending wings



          The idea is to have a larger wing area at takeoff for more lift and a smaller wing area in flight for more efficiency.



          The NIAI RK and followup RK-I used two tandem wings that served as rails for an extendable panel that could be rolled out between them.



          NIAI RK-I extending wing airplane



          The project failed because Stalin was so enthusiastic about it he had it use the most powerful engine available which was too unreliable. I can't find a reason why the concept was not tried again.



          The German FS-29 glider of 1972 had a different arrangement. It had an outer wing that fit over an inner wing and could unsheathe like a sword. Only one was built.



          FS-29 glider






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            Oblique Wing



            A normal wing at takeoff then pivots during flight. High-risk idea to make transport aircraft more efficient in the transonic regime.



            Lighter and simpler than a swing wing, with no change in the center of lift as the geometry is changed. Disadvantage is that flight characteristics become asymmetric left and right, plus problems with rigidity. See this question for more.



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            Variable Camber Wing



            From the late 60s to the early 90s NASA tested experimental variants of their F-111s; at one period they were trying out a "Mission Adaptive Wing":




            The second phase called transonic aircraft technology (TACT/F-111A)
            added an highly efficient supercritical wing and later the third phase
            applied advanced wing (Mission Adaptive Wing-MAW) flight control
            technologies and was called Advanced Fighter Technology Integration
            (AFTI/F-111A). source




            The F-111 was already a swing-wing aircraft, but this modification was a supercricital mission-adaptive wing with smooth variable camber, similar to the aero-elastic wing already mentioned.



            Flight research concept can be read here and results can be read here.



            AFTI F-111
            source In flight - compare with landing wing below.



            AFTI F-111
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            In addition to types already mentioned by other answers:



            Tiltwing



            Was used to allow VTOL operations by tilting the entire wing, as can be seen on the Hiller X-18. The concept was never used outside testing as far as I can tell.



            Photo series showing the wing tilting.



            Aeroelastic Wing



            Tested on the X-29 and later on the Boeing X-53, which was based on the F/A-18 Hornet. The idea here is that the wing can be twisted to control roll, giving better control while reducing load on the aircraft. Only used in testing so far.



            X-53 in flight



            Canard Rotor/Wing



            The concept was that an aircraft could use a rotary wing similar to a helicopter for vertical take-off and landing; once up to speed it would stop the rotor and use it as a conventional wing. Was never tested in VTOL mode and the project was cancelled. See Boeing X-50 Dragonfly for more information.





            Variable geometry wingtip



            The XB-70 Valkyrie had hinged wingtips which could be angled downwards by up to 65 degrees to improve lift and stability in certain regimes.



            Final Valkyrie layout showing variable wingtips.






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              Variable incidence, on the F-8 Crusader.



              from the Wiki page



              From the Wiki page:




              The most innovative aspect of the design was the variable-incidence wing which pivoted by 7° out of the fuselage on takeoff and landing (not to be confused with variable-sweep wing). This allowed a greater angle of attack, increasing lift without compromising forward visibility.




              Tiltrotor, on the V-22 Osprey



              From the Wiki page:




              A tiltrotor aircraft differs from a tiltwing in that only the rotor pivots rather than the entire wing. This method trades off efficiency in vertical flight for efficiency in STOL/STOVL operations.




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                Extending wings



                The idea is to have a larger wing area at takeoff for more lift and a smaller wing area in flight for more efficiency.



                The NIAI RK and followup RK-I used two tandem wings that served as rails for an extendable panel that could be rolled out between them.



                NIAI RK-I extending wing airplane



                The project failed because Stalin was so enthusiastic about it he had it use the most powerful engine available which was too unreliable. I can't find a reason why the concept was not tried again.



                The German FS-29 glider of 1972 had a different arrangement. It had an outer wing that fit over an inner wing and could unsheathe like a sword. Only one was built.



                FS-29 glider






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                  Extending wings



                  The idea is to have a larger wing area at takeoff for more lift and a smaller wing area in flight for more efficiency.



                  The NIAI RK and followup RK-I used two tandem wings that served as rails for an extendable panel that could be rolled out between them.



                  NIAI RK-I extending wing airplane



                  The project failed because Stalin was so enthusiastic about it he had it use the most powerful engine available which was too unreliable. I can't find a reason why the concept was not tried again.



                  The German FS-29 glider of 1972 had a different arrangement. It had an outer wing that fit over an inner wing and could unsheathe like a sword. Only one was built.



                  FS-29 glider






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                    Extending wings



                    The idea is to have a larger wing area at takeoff for more lift and a smaller wing area in flight for more efficiency.



                    The NIAI RK and followup RK-I used two tandem wings that served as rails for an extendable panel that could be rolled out between them.



                    NIAI RK-I extending wing airplane



                    The project failed because Stalin was so enthusiastic about it he had it use the most powerful engine available which was too unreliable. I can't find a reason why the concept was not tried again.



                    The German FS-29 glider of 1972 had a different arrangement. It had an outer wing that fit over an inner wing and could unsheathe like a sword. Only one was built.



                    FS-29 glider






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                    Extending wings



                    The idea is to have a larger wing area at takeoff for more lift and a smaller wing area in flight for more efficiency.



                    The NIAI RK and followup RK-I used two tandem wings that served as rails for an extendable panel that could be rolled out between them.



                    NIAI RK-I extending wing airplane



                    The project failed because Stalin was so enthusiastic about it he had it use the most powerful engine available which was too unreliable. I can't find a reason why the concept was not tried again.



                    The German FS-29 glider of 1972 had a different arrangement. It had an outer wing that fit over an inner wing and could unsheathe like a sword. Only one was built.



                    FS-29 glider







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                        Oblique Wing



                        A normal wing at takeoff then pivots during flight. High-risk idea to make transport aircraft more efficient in the transonic regime.



                        Lighter and simpler than a swing wing, with no change in the center of lift as the geometry is changed. Disadvantage is that flight characteristics become asymmetric left and right, plus problems with rigidity. See this question for more.



                        NASA AD-1






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                        Oblique Wing



                        A normal wing at takeoff then pivots during flight. High-risk idea to make transport aircraft more efficient in the transonic regime.



                        Lighter and simpler than a swing wing, with no change in the center of lift as the geometry is changed. Disadvantage is that flight characteristics become asymmetric left and right, plus problems with rigidity. See this question for more.



                        NASA AD-1






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                        Oblique Wing



                        A normal wing at takeoff then pivots during flight. High-risk idea to make transport aircraft more efficient in the transonic regime.



                        Lighter and simpler than a swing wing, with no change in the center of lift as the geometry is changed. Disadvantage is that flight characteristics become asymmetric left and right, plus problems with rigidity. See this question for more.



                        NASA AD-1






                        share|improve this answer









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                        Oblique Wing



                        A normal wing at takeoff then pivots during flight. High-risk idea to make transport aircraft more efficient in the transonic regime.



                        Lighter and simpler than a swing wing, with no change in the center of lift as the geometry is changed. Disadvantage is that flight characteristics become asymmetric left and right, plus problems with rigidity. See this question for more.



                        NASA AD-1







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                        Variable Camber Wing



                        From the late 60s to the early 90s NASA tested experimental variants of their F-111s; at one period they were trying out a "Mission Adaptive Wing":




                        The second phase called transonic aircraft technology (TACT/F-111A)
                        added an highly efficient supercritical wing and later the third phase
                        applied advanced wing (Mission Adaptive Wing-MAW) flight control
                        technologies and was called Advanced Fighter Technology Integration
                        (AFTI/F-111A). source




                        The F-111 was already a swing-wing aircraft, but this modification was a supercricital mission-adaptive wing with smooth variable camber, similar to the aero-elastic wing already mentioned.



                        Flight research concept can be read here and results can be read here.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source In flight - compare with landing wing below.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source






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                        Variable Camber Wing



                        From the late 60s to the early 90s NASA tested experimental variants of their F-111s; at one period they were trying out a "Mission Adaptive Wing":




                        The second phase called transonic aircraft technology (TACT/F-111A)
                        added an highly efficient supercritical wing and later the third phase
                        applied advanced wing (Mission Adaptive Wing-MAW) flight control
                        technologies and was called Advanced Fighter Technology Integration
                        (AFTI/F-111A). source




                        The F-111 was already a swing-wing aircraft, but this modification was a supercricital mission-adaptive wing with smooth variable camber, similar to the aero-elastic wing already mentioned.



                        Flight research concept can be read here and results can be read here.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source In flight - compare with landing wing below.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source






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                        Variable Camber Wing



                        From the late 60s to the early 90s NASA tested experimental variants of their F-111s; at one period they were trying out a "Mission Adaptive Wing":




                        The second phase called transonic aircraft technology (TACT/F-111A)
                        added an highly efficient supercritical wing and later the third phase
                        applied advanced wing (Mission Adaptive Wing-MAW) flight control
                        technologies and was called Advanced Fighter Technology Integration
                        (AFTI/F-111A). source




                        The F-111 was already a swing-wing aircraft, but this modification was a supercricital mission-adaptive wing with smooth variable camber, similar to the aero-elastic wing already mentioned.



                        Flight research concept can be read here and results can be read here.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source In flight - compare with landing wing below.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source






                        share|improve this answer









                        $endgroup$



                        Variable Camber Wing



                        From the late 60s to the early 90s NASA tested experimental variants of their F-111s; at one period they were trying out a "Mission Adaptive Wing":




                        The second phase called transonic aircraft technology (TACT/F-111A)
                        added an highly efficient supercritical wing and later the third phase
                        applied advanced wing (Mission Adaptive Wing-MAW) flight control
                        technologies and was called Advanced Fighter Technology Integration
                        (AFTI/F-111A). source




                        The F-111 was already a swing-wing aircraft, but this modification was a supercricital mission-adaptive wing with smooth variable camber, similar to the aero-elastic wing already mentioned.



                        Flight research concept can be read here and results can be read here.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source In flight - compare with landing wing below.



                        AFTI F-111
                        source







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                        In addition to types already mentioned by other answers:



                        Tiltwing



                        Was used to allow VTOL operations by tilting the entire wing, as can be seen on the Hiller X-18. The concept was never used outside testing as far as I can tell.



                        Photo series showing the wing tilting.



                        Aeroelastic Wing



                        Tested on the X-29 and later on the Boeing X-53, which was based on the F/A-18 Hornet. The idea here is that the wing can be twisted to control roll, giving better control while reducing load on the aircraft. Only used in testing so far.



                        X-53 in flight



                        Canard Rotor/Wing



                        The concept was that an aircraft could use a rotary wing similar to a helicopter for vertical take-off and landing; once up to speed it would stop the rotor and use it as a conventional wing. Was never tested in VTOL mode and the project was cancelled. See Boeing X-50 Dragonfly for more information.





                        Variable geometry wingtip



                        The XB-70 Valkyrie had hinged wingtips which could be angled downwards by up to 65 degrees to improve lift and stability in certain regimes.



                        Final Valkyrie layout showing variable wingtips.






                        share|improve this answer











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                          In addition to types already mentioned by other answers:



                          Tiltwing



                          Was used to allow VTOL operations by tilting the entire wing, as can be seen on the Hiller X-18. The concept was never used outside testing as far as I can tell.



                          Photo series showing the wing tilting.



                          Aeroelastic Wing



                          Tested on the X-29 and later on the Boeing X-53, which was based on the F/A-18 Hornet. The idea here is that the wing can be twisted to control roll, giving better control while reducing load on the aircraft. Only used in testing so far.



                          X-53 in flight



                          Canard Rotor/Wing



                          The concept was that an aircraft could use a rotary wing similar to a helicopter for vertical take-off and landing; once up to speed it would stop the rotor and use it as a conventional wing. Was never tested in VTOL mode and the project was cancelled. See Boeing X-50 Dragonfly for more information.





                          Variable geometry wingtip



                          The XB-70 Valkyrie had hinged wingtips which could be angled downwards by up to 65 degrees to improve lift and stability in certain regimes.



                          Final Valkyrie layout showing variable wingtips.






                          share|improve this answer











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                            In addition to types already mentioned by other answers:



                            Tiltwing



                            Was used to allow VTOL operations by tilting the entire wing, as can be seen on the Hiller X-18. The concept was never used outside testing as far as I can tell.



                            Photo series showing the wing tilting.



                            Aeroelastic Wing



                            Tested on the X-29 and later on the Boeing X-53, which was based on the F/A-18 Hornet. The idea here is that the wing can be twisted to control roll, giving better control while reducing load on the aircraft. Only used in testing so far.



                            X-53 in flight



                            Canard Rotor/Wing



                            The concept was that an aircraft could use a rotary wing similar to a helicopter for vertical take-off and landing; once up to speed it would stop the rotor and use it as a conventional wing. Was never tested in VTOL mode and the project was cancelled. See Boeing X-50 Dragonfly for more information.





                            Variable geometry wingtip



                            The XB-70 Valkyrie had hinged wingtips which could be angled downwards by up to 65 degrees to improve lift and stability in certain regimes.



                            Final Valkyrie layout showing variable wingtips.






                            share|improve this answer











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                            In addition to types already mentioned by other answers:



                            Tiltwing



                            Was used to allow VTOL operations by tilting the entire wing, as can be seen on the Hiller X-18. The concept was never used outside testing as far as I can tell.



                            Photo series showing the wing tilting.



                            Aeroelastic Wing



                            Tested on the X-29 and later on the Boeing X-53, which was based on the F/A-18 Hornet. The idea here is that the wing can be twisted to control roll, giving better control while reducing load on the aircraft. Only used in testing so far.



                            X-53 in flight



                            Canard Rotor/Wing



                            The concept was that an aircraft could use a rotary wing similar to a helicopter for vertical take-off and landing; once up to speed it would stop the rotor and use it as a conventional wing. Was never tested in VTOL mode and the project was cancelled. See Boeing X-50 Dragonfly for more information.





                            Variable geometry wingtip



                            The XB-70 Valkyrie had hinged wingtips which could be angled downwards by up to 65 degrees to improve lift and stability in certain regimes.



                            Final Valkyrie layout showing variable wingtips.







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                                Variable incidence, on the F-8 Crusader.



                                from the Wiki page



                                From the Wiki page:




                                The most innovative aspect of the design was the variable-incidence wing which pivoted by 7° out of the fuselage on takeoff and landing (not to be confused with variable-sweep wing). This allowed a greater angle of attack, increasing lift without compromising forward visibility.




                                Tiltrotor, on the V-22 Osprey



                                From the Wiki page:




                                A tiltrotor aircraft differs from a tiltwing in that only the rotor pivots rather than the entire wing. This method trades off efficiency in vertical flight for efficiency in STOL/STOVL operations.




                                enter image description here






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                                  Variable incidence, on the F-8 Crusader.



                                  from the Wiki page



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                                  The most innovative aspect of the design was the variable-incidence wing which pivoted by 7° out of the fuselage on takeoff and landing (not to be confused with variable-sweep wing). This allowed a greater angle of attack, increasing lift without compromising forward visibility.




                                  Tiltrotor, on the V-22 Osprey



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                                  A tiltrotor aircraft differs from a tiltwing in that only the rotor pivots rather than the entire wing. This method trades off efficiency in vertical flight for efficiency in STOL/STOVL operations.




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                                    Variable incidence, on the F-8 Crusader.



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                                    The most innovative aspect of the design was the variable-incidence wing which pivoted by 7° out of the fuselage on takeoff and landing (not to be confused with variable-sweep wing). This allowed a greater angle of attack, increasing lift without compromising forward visibility.




                                    Tiltrotor, on the V-22 Osprey



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                                    A tiltrotor aircraft differs from a tiltwing in that only the rotor pivots rather than the entire wing. This method trades off efficiency in vertical flight for efficiency in STOL/STOVL operations.




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                                    Variable incidence, on the F-8 Crusader.



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                                    The most innovative aspect of the design was the variable-incidence wing which pivoted by 7° out of the fuselage on takeoff and landing (not to be confused with variable-sweep wing). This allowed a greater angle of attack, increasing lift without compromising forward visibility.




                                    Tiltrotor, on the V-22 Osprey



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                                    A tiltrotor aircraft differs from a tiltwing in that only the rotor pivots rather than the entire wing. This method trades off efficiency in vertical flight for efficiency in STOL/STOVL operations.




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