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Chess Construction Challenge #2-Check!


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Given that:



  • Black has 6 pawns and a king


  • White has three pieces of any kind you to deduce the identity of and a king


Construct:



  • A legal position in which both sides help to give a legal sequence of 13 mutual checks


  • Positional variations are allowed. To my knowledge, there is really only one way in which this idea can be constructed. I accept alternate answers.


If you have questions, feel free to ask in the comments section below!



Good luck!



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    To clarify: W has three pieces of the same kind that we have to identify, or W has three pieces which might all be of different kinds that we have to identify?
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It's time for round two!



Given that:



  • Black has 6 pawns and a king


  • White has three pieces of any kind you to deduce the identity of and a king


Construct:



  • A legal position in which both sides help to give a legal sequence of 13 mutual checks


  • Positional variations are allowed. To my knowledge, there is really only one way in which this idea can be constructed. I accept alternate answers.


If you have questions, feel free to ask in the comments section below!



Good luck!



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  • $begingroup$
    To clarify: W has three pieces of the same kind that we have to identify, or W has three pieces which might all be of different kinds that we have to identify?
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
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    It's the latter option.
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    – Rewan Demontay
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2





$begingroup$


It's time for round two!



Given that:



  • Black has 6 pawns and a king


  • White has three pieces of any kind you to deduce the identity of and a king


Construct:



  • A legal position in which both sides help to give a legal sequence of 13 mutual checks


  • Positional variations are allowed. To my knowledge, there is really only one way in which this idea can be constructed. I accept alternate answers.


If you have questions, feel free to ask in the comments section below!



Good luck!



There is a slight shortcut for this puzzle if you can figure it out...










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




It's time for round two!



Given that:



  • Black has 6 pawns and a king


  • White has three pieces of any kind you to deduce the identity of and a king


Construct:



  • A legal position in which both sides help to give a legal sequence of 13 mutual checks


  • Positional variations are allowed. To my knowledge, there is really only one way in which this idea can be constructed. I accept alternate answers.


If you have questions, feel free to ask in the comments section below!



Good luck!



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  • $begingroup$
    To clarify: W has three pieces of the same kind that we have to identify, or W has three pieces which might all be of different kinds that we have to identify?
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    9 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    It's the latter option.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    9 hours ago

















  • $begingroup$
    To clarify: W has three pieces of the same kind that we have to identify, or W has three pieces which might all be of different kinds that we have to identify?
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    9 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    It's the latter option.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    9 hours ago
















$begingroup$
To clarify: W has three pieces of the same kind that we have to identify, or W has three pieces which might all be of different kinds that we have to identify?
$endgroup$
– Gareth McCaughan
9 hours ago




$begingroup$
To clarify: W has three pieces of the same kind that we have to identify, or W has three pieces which might all be of different kinds that we have to identify?
$endgroup$
– Gareth McCaughan
9 hours ago












$begingroup$
It's the latter option.
$endgroup$
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9 hours ago





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It's the latter option.
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My position has a fourteenth check too, but that's probably ok. :-)




enter image description here
[FEN "8/8/8/8/8/4K3/2pppppp/RR4Nk w - -"]




These are the moves:





 1. Nh3+ d1=N+
2. Rxd1+ cxd1=N+
3. Rxd1+ e1=R+
4. Rxe1+ f1=N+
5. Rxf1+ g1=B+
6. Rxg1+ hxg1=B+
7. Nf2+ Bxf2+



And here's the whole solution uploaded to Lichess.




EDIT: Looks like 15 is also doable:




enter image description here




The final check feels like such a waste of a piece though; the first fourteen checks are possible with white having only two pieces and a king:




[FEN "8/8/6Q1/8/5R2/5p2/ppp1p1p1/R3K1k1 w - -"]


 1. Qb6+ f2+
2. Kd2+ b1=N+
3. Qxb1+ axb1=N+
4. Rxb1+ c1=B+
5. Rxc1+ e1=B+
6. Rxe1+ f1=N+
7. Rexf1+ gxf1=N+
8. Rxf1+



Again, here's the Lichess link.






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  • $begingroup$
    Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
    $endgroup$
    – Parseltongue
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    +1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
    $endgroup$
    – msh210
    8 hours ago











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    nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
    $endgroup$
    – SteveV
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
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$begingroup$

My position has a fourteenth check too, but that's probably ok. :-)




enter image description here
[FEN "8/8/8/8/8/4K3/2pppppp/RR4Nk w - -"]




These are the moves:





 1. Nh3+ d1=N+
2. Rxd1+ cxd1=N+
3. Rxd1+ e1=R+
4. Rxe1+ f1=N+
5. Rxf1+ g1=B+
6. Rxg1+ hxg1=B+
7. Nf2+ Bxf2+



And here's the whole solution uploaded to Lichess.




EDIT: Looks like 15 is also doable:




enter image description here




The final check feels like such a waste of a piece though; the first fourteen checks are possible with white having only two pieces and a king:




[FEN "8/8/6Q1/8/5R2/5p2/ppp1p1p1/R3K1k1 w - -"]


 1. Qb6+ f2+
2. Kd2+ b1=N+
3. Qxb1+ axb1=N+
4. Rxb1+ c1=B+
5. Rxc1+ e1=B+
6. Rxe1+ f1=N+
7. Rexf1+ gxf1=N+
8. Rxf1+



Again, here's the Lichess link.






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  • $begingroup$
    Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
    $endgroup$
    – Parseltongue
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    +1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
    $endgroup$
    – msh210
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
    $endgroup$
    – SteveV
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
    $endgroup$
    – Bass
    8 hours ago















6












$begingroup$

My position has a fourteenth check too, but that's probably ok. :-)




enter image description here
[FEN "8/8/8/8/8/4K3/2pppppp/RR4Nk w - -"]




These are the moves:





 1. Nh3+ d1=N+
2. Rxd1+ cxd1=N+
3. Rxd1+ e1=R+
4. Rxe1+ f1=N+
5. Rxf1+ g1=B+
6. Rxg1+ hxg1=B+
7. Nf2+ Bxf2+



And here's the whole solution uploaded to Lichess.




EDIT: Looks like 15 is also doable:




enter image description here




The final check feels like such a waste of a piece though; the first fourteen checks are possible with white having only two pieces and a king:




[FEN "8/8/6Q1/8/5R2/5p2/ppp1p1p1/R3K1k1 w - -"]


 1. Qb6+ f2+
2. Kd2+ b1=N+
3. Qxb1+ axb1=N+
4. Rxb1+ c1=B+
5. Rxc1+ e1=B+
6. Rxe1+ f1=N+
7. Rexf1+ gxf1=N+
8. Rxf1+



Again, here's the Lichess link.






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  • $begingroup$
    Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
    $endgroup$
    – Parseltongue
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    +1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
    $endgroup$
    – msh210
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
    $endgroup$
    – SteveV
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
    $endgroup$
    – Bass
    8 hours ago













6












6








6





$begingroup$

My position has a fourteenth check too, but that's probably ok. :-)




enter image description here
[FEN "8/8/8/8/8/4K3/2pppppp/RR4Nk w - -"]




These are the moves:





 1. Nh3+ d1=N+
2. Rxd1+ cxd1=N+
3. Rxd1+ e1=R+
4. Rxe1+ f1=N+
5. Rxf1+ g1=B+
6. Rxg1+ hxg1=B+
7. Nf2+ Bxf2+



And here's the whole solution uploaded to Lichess.




EDIT: Looks like 15 is also doable:




enter image description here




The final check feels like such a waste of a piece though; the first fourteen checks are possible with white having only two pieces and a king:




[FEN "8/8/6Q1/8/5R2/5p2/ppp1p1p1/R3K1k1 w - -"]


 1. Qb6+ f2+
2. Kd2+ b1=N+
3. Qxb1+ axb1=N+
4. Rxb1+ c1=B+
5. Rxc1+ e1=B+
6. Rxe1+ f1=N+
7. Rexf1+ gxf1=N+
8. Rxf1+



Again, here's the Lichess link.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



My position has a fourteenth check too, but that's probably ok. :-)




enter image description here
[FEN "8/8/8/8/8/4K3/2pppppp/RR4Nk w - -"]




These are the moves:





 1. Nh3+ d1=N+
2. Rxd1+ cxd1=N+
3. Rxd1+ e1=R+
4. Rxe1+ f1=N+
5. Rxf1+ g1=B+
6. Rxg1+ hxg1=B+
7. Nf2+ Bxf2+



And here's the whole solution uploaded to Lichess.




EDIT: Looks like 15 is also doable:




enter image description here




The final check feels like such a waste of a piece though; the first fourteen checks are possible with white having only two pieces and a king:




[FEN "8/8/6Q1/8/5R2/5p2/ppp1p1p1/R3K1k1 w - -"]


 1. Qb6+ f2+
2. Kd2+ b1=N+
3. Qxb1+ axb1=N+
4. Rxb1+ c1=B+
5. Rxc1+ e1=B+
6. Rxe1+ f1=N+
7. Rexf1+ gxf1=N+
8. Rxf1+



Again, here's the Lichess link.







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  • $begingroup$
    Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
    $endgroup$
    – Parseltongue
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    +1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
    $endgroup$
    – msh210
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
    $endgroup$
    – SteveV
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
    $endgroup$
    – Bass
    8 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
    $endgroup$
    – Parseltongue
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    +1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
    $endgroup$
    – msh210
    8 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
    $endgroup$
    – SteveV
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
    $endgroup$
    – Rewan Demontay
    8 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
    $endgroup$
    – Bass
    8 hours ago















$begingroup$
Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
$endgroup$
– Parseltongue
8 hours ago





$begingroup$
Incredible! Thank goodness I checked back. I was wasting so much time not considering promotions! Would love to know your thought process? Had you just seen this kind of pattern before?
$endgroup$
– Parseltongue
8 hours ago













$begingroup$
+1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
$endgroup$
– msh210
8 hours ago





$begingroup$
+1. But it's probably not the solution intended by the asker, since it doesn't explain the sequence of extra letters in the question.
$endgroup$
– msh210
8 hours ago













$begingroup$
nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
$endgroup$
– SteveV
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
nice. I think you could substitute queens for one or both of the rooks, too.
$endgroup$
– SteveV
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
@mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
@mah210 It is not required to solve for the extra letters. Those are a bonus of sorts if you can figure it out.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
8 hours ago












$begingroup$
Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
$endgroup$
– Bass
8 hours ago




$begingroup$
Well, there seemed to be very few options for b to give check, so it seemed obvious that at least some of black's checks had to be promotions. -> maybe they could all be? I then managed to find a couple of ways to do just that, and one of them had an extra check at the end.
$endgroup$
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