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Long running DBCC CHECKDBAlternative of DBCC CHECKDBDBCC CheckDB run into early hardware failureDBCC CHECKDB ran out of memoryDBCC CHECKDB LastKnownGoodDBCC CHECKDB errorsDate of Last DBCC checkdb runDBCC CHECKDB errorDBCC CHECKDB grows tempdb to a huge size - Legacy MS SQL Server 2008 R2 InstanceCan a full DBCC CHECKDB operation be safely offloaded to a restored backup on a different server?






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          No, it's not recommended because it's largely a waste of time. When SQL Server restarts, tempdb is created from scratch. Also, the data in there isn't around long enough to be a good indicator of if there's an issue with it, or the underlying storage.



          Both Ola's scripts and Maintenance Plans will skip tempdb when you set up CHECKDB routines.



          Another reason why it's largely useless is because if tempdb does get corrupted, you'll know in a hurry. Check out my blog post here where I corrupt tempdb on purpose: DBA Days: Killing TempDB softly



          Coming up in SQL Server 2019, we'll be able to use "in memory" technology for system tables in tempdb. While this solves pretty big contention issues, you can't run CHECKDB against in-memory tables. The only way you could check those is if you backed up tempdb, which isn't something you can do.



          BACKUP DATABASE tempdb TO DISK = 'D:Backupst.bak'



          Msg 3147, Level 16, State 3, Line 27 Backup and restore operations are
          not allowed on database tempdb. Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 27
          BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.




          If you really think it's worth running checkdb against a database that SQL Server won't allow you to back up, well, it's your maintenance window, I suppose.






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          • I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

            – Shanky
            8 hours ago












          • @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

            – Erik Darling
            8 hours ago











          • let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

            – Shanky
            8 hours ago











          • Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

            – Kin Shah
            8 hours ago











          • @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

            – Erik Darling
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          Running DBCC CHECKDB against tempdb does not perform any allocation or catalog checks and must acquire shared table locks to perform table checks. This is because, for performance reasons, database snapshots are not available on tempdb. This means that the required transactional consistency cannot be obtained.




          The only reason that I can think of running a checkdb against tempdb is when tempdb gets badly corrupted that the sessions using it starts to get errors.



          Also, when tempdb gets corrupted, it is possible that your user databases might have corruption as well.



          I personally do not have checkdb done on tempdb.






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            I have a different perspective here, you "should" run checkdb against all the databases no matter system or user period.Why, simply because it is database which stores information what if there is corruption are you going to restart the SQl Server so that tempdb is cleared and "may be" corruption is gone. I would also like you to read Brent Ozar blog




            Q: Should I run CheckDB against TempDB?



            Yes– you should. CheckDB can’t do every single check against TempDB that it can against other databases (the output will let you know that it can’t create a snapshot), but it can still run a variety of checks against TempDB and it’s supported to run it. Don’t skip it! You should be checking master, model, msdb and tempdb, plus all your user databases.




            Should I run checkdb on Tempdb as often i do for user database ? No you can avoid that if required.



            Should I not run checkdb at all on tempdb database ? No, you should run. Do not omit it.






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              No, it's not recommended because it's largely a waste of time. When SQL Server restarts, tempdb is created from scratch. Also, the data in there isn't around long enough to be a good indicator of if there's an issue with it, or the underlying storage.



              Both Ola's scripts and Maintenance Plans will skip tempdb when you set up CHECKDB routines.



              Another reason why it's largely useless is because if tempdb does get corrupted, you'll know in a hurry. Check out my blog post here where I corrupt tempdb on purpose: DBA Days: Killing TempDB softly



              Coming up in SQL Server 2019, we'll be able to use "in memory" technology for system tables in tempdb. While this solves pretty big contention issues, you can't run CHECKDB against in-memory tables. The only way you could check those is if you backed up tempdb, which isn't something you can do.



              BACKUP DATABASE tempdb TO DISK = 'D:Backupst.bak'



              Msg 3147, Level 16, State 3, Line 27 Backup and restore operations are
              not allowed on database tempdb. Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 27
              BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.




              If you really think it's worth running checkdb against a database that SQL Server won't allow you to back up, well, it's your maintenance window, I suppose.






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              • I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago












              • @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago











              • let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago











              • Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

                – Kin Shah
                8 hours ago











              • @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago















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              No, it's not recommended because it's largely a waste of time. When SQL Server restarts, tempdb is created from scratch. Also, the data in there isn't around long enough to be a good indicator of if there's an issue with it, or the underlying storage.



              Both Ola's scripts and Maintenance Plans will skip tempdb when you set up CHECKDB routines.



              Another reason why it's largely useless is because if tempdb does get corrupted, you'll know in a hurry. Check out my blog post here where I corrupt tempdb on purpose: DBA Days: Killing TempDB softly



              Coming up in SQL Server 2019, we'll be able to use "in memory" technology for system tables in tempdb. While this solves pretty big contention issues, you can't run CHECKDB against in-memory tables. The only way you could check those is if you backed up tempdb, which isn't something you can do.



              BACKUP DATABASE tempdb TO DISK = 'D:Backupst.bak'



              Msg 3147, Level 16, State 3, Line 27 Backup and restore operations are
              not allowed on database tempdb. Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 27
              BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.




              If you really think it's worth running checkdb against a database that SQL Server won't allow you to back up, well, it's your maintenance window, I suppose.






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              • I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago












              • @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago











              • let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago











              • Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

                – Kin Shah
                8 hours ago











              • @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago













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              No, it's not recommended because it's largely a waste of time. When SQL Server restarts, tempdb is created from scratch. Also, the data in there isn't around long enough to be a good indicator of if there's an issue with it, or the underlying storage.



              Both Ola's scripts and Maintenance Plans will skip tempdb when you set up CHECKDB routines.



              Another reason why it's largely useless is because if tempdb does get corrupted, you'll know in a hurry. Check out my blog post here where I corrupt tempdb on purpose: DBA Days: Killing TempDB softly



              Coming up in SQL Server 2019, we'll be able to use "in memory" technology for system tables in tempdb. While this solves pretty big contention issues, you can't run CHECKDB against in-memory tables. The only way you could check those is if you backed up tempdb, which isn't something you can do.



              BACKUP DATABASE tempdb TO DISK = 'D:Backupst.bak'



              Msg 3147, Level 16, State 3, Line 27 Backup and restore operations are
              not allowed on database tempdb. Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 27
              BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.




              If you really think it's worth running checkdb against a database that SQL Server won't allow you to back up, well, it's your maintenance window, I suppose.






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              No, it's not recommended because it's largely a waste of time. When SQL Server restarts, tempdb is created from scratch. Also, the data in there isn't around long enough to be a good indicator of if there's an issue with it, or the underlying storage.



              Both Ola's scripts and Maintenance Plans will skip tempdb when you set up CHECKDB routines.



              Another reason why it's largely useless is because if tempdb does get corrupted, you'll know in a hurry. Check out my blog post here where I corrupt tempdb on purpose: DBA Days: Killing TempDB softly



              Coming up in SQL Server 2019, we'll be able to use "in memory" technology for system tables in tempdb. While this solves pretty big contention issues, you can't run CHECKDB against in-memory tables. The only way you could check those is if you backed up tempdb, which isn't something you can do.



              BACKUP DATABASE tempdb TO DISK = 'D:Backupst.bak'



              Msg 3147, Level 16, State 3, Line 27 Backup and restore operations are
              not allowed on database tempdb. Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Line 27
              BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.




              If you really think it's worth running checkdb against a database that SQL Server won't allow you to back up, well, it's your maintenance window, I suppose.







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              • I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago












              • @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago











              • let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago











              • Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

                – Kin Shah
                8 hours ago











              • @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago

















              • I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago












              • @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago











              • let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

                – Shanky
                8 hours ago











              • Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

                – Kin Shah
                8 hours ago











              • @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

                – Erik Darling
                8 hours ago
















              I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

              – Shanky
              8 hours ago






              I disagree you "should" run checkdb against tempdb, although it does not checks it completely but I would never miss it. Why, simply because it is a database no matter whether created from scratch.

              – Shanky
              8 hours ago














              @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

              – Erik Darling
              8 hours ago





              @Shanky Wouldn't you rather spend that time checking actual databases? Do your thing, though.

              – Erik Darling
              8 hours ago













              let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

              – Shanky
              8 hours ago





              let me rephrase you should run checkdb on all user and system databases, is that fine ?. I believe one has to play second fiddle to time when it comes to consistency.

              – Shanky
              8 hours ago













              Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

              – Kin Shah
              8 hours ago





              Even maintenance plan does not have option to select tempdb :-)

              – Kin Shah
              8 hours ago













              @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

              – Erik Darling
              8 hours ago





              @Shanky You can't even back tempdb up. SQL Server won't let you. But it's cool if you wanna spend your time on it.

              – Erik Darling
              8 hours ago













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              Running DBCC CHECKDB against tempdb does not perform any allocation or catalog checks and must acquire shared table locks to perform table checks. This is because, for performance reasons, database snapshots are not available on tempdb. This means that the required transactional consistency cannot be obtained.




              The only reason that I can think of running a checkdb against tempdb is when tempdb gets badly corrupted that the sessions using it starts to get errors.



              Also, when tempdb gets corrupted, it is possible that your user databases might have corruption as well.



              I personally do not have checkdb done on tempdb.






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                Running DBCC CHECKDB against tempdb does not perform any allocation or catalog checks and must acquire shared table locks to perform table checks. This is because, for performance reasons, database snapshots are not available on tempdb. This means that the required transactional consistency cannot be obtained.




                The only reason that I can think of running a checkdb against tempdb is when tempdb gets badly corrupted that the sessions using it starts to get errors.



                Also, when tempdb gets corrupted, it is possible that your user databases might have corruption as well.



                I personally do not have checkdb done on tempdb.






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                  Complementing to Erik's answer




                  Running DBCC CHECKDB against tempdb does not perform any allocation or catalog checks and must acquire shared table locks to perform table checks. This is because, for performance reasons, database snapshots are not available on tempdb. This means that the required transactional consistency cannot be obtained.




                  The only reason that I can think of running a checkdb against tempdb is when tempdb gets badly corrupted that the sessions using it starts to get errors.



                  Also, when tempdb gets corrupted, it is possible that your user databases might have corruption as well.



                  I personally do not have checkdb done on tempdb.






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                  Complementing to Erik's answer




                  Running DBCC CHECKDB against tempdb does not perform any allocation or catalog checks and must acquire shared table locks to perform table checks. This is because, for performance reasons, database snapshots are not available on tempdb. This means that the required transactional consistency cannot be obtained.




                  The only reason that I can think of running a checkdb against tempdb is when tempdb gets badly corrupted that the sessions using it starts to get errors.



                  Also, when tempdb gets corrupted, it is possible that your user databases might have corruption as well.



                  I personally do not have checkdb done on tempdb.







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                      I have a different perspective here, you "should" run checkdb against all the databases no matter system or user period.Why, simply because it is database which stores information what if there is corruption are you going to restart the SQl Server so that tempdb is cleared and "may be" corruption is gone. I would also like you to read Brent Ozar blog




                      Q: Should I run CheckDB against TempDB?



                      Yes– you should. CheckDB can’t do every single check against TempDB that it can against other databases (the output will let you know that it can’t create a snapshot), but it can still run a variety of checks against TempDB and it’s supported to run it. Don’t skip it! You should be checking master, model, msdb and tempdb, plus all your user databases.




                      Should I run checkdb on Tempdb as often i do for user database ? No you can avoid that if required.



                      Should I not run checkdb at all on tempdb database ? No, you should run. Do not omit it.






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                        I have a different perspective here, you "should" run checkdb against all the databases no matter system or user period.Why, simply because it is database which stores information what if there is corruption are you going to restart the SQl Server so that tempdb is cleared and "may be" corruption is gone. I would also like you to read Brent Ozar blog




                        Q: Should I run CheckDB against TempDB?



                        Yes– you should. CheckDB can’t do every single check against TempDB that it can against other databases (the output will let you know that it can’t create a snapshot), but it can still run a variety of checks against TempDB and it’s supported to run it. Don’t skip it! You should be checking master, model, msdb and tempdb, plus all your user databases.




                        Should I run checkdb on Tempdb as often i do for user database ? No you can avoid that if required.



                        Should I not run checkdb at all on tempdb database ? No, you should run. Do not omit it.






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                          I have a different perspective here, you "should" run checkdb against all the databases no matter system or user period.Why, simply because it is database which stores information what if there is corruption are you going to restart the SQl Server so that tempdb is cleared and "may be" corruption is gone. I would also like you to read Brent Ozar blog




                          Q: Should I run CheckDB against TempDB?



                          Yes– you should. CheckDB can’t do every single check against TempDB that it can against other databases (the output will let you know that it can’t create a snapshot), but it can still run a variety of checks against TempDB and it’s supported to run it. Don’t skip it! You should be checking master, model, msdb and tempdb, plus all your user databases.




                          Should I run checkdb on Tempdb as often i do for user database ? No you can avoid that if required.



                          Should I not run checkdb at all on tempdb database ? No, you should run. Do not omit it.






                          share|improve this answer















                          I have a different perspective here, you "should" run checkdb against all the databases no matter system or user period.Why, simply because it is database which stores information what if there is corruption are you going to restart the SQl Server so that tempdb is cleared and "may be" corruption is gone. I would also like you to read Brent Ozar blog




                          Q: Should I run CheckDB against TempDB?



                          Yes– you should. CheckDB can’t do every single check against TempDB that it can against other databases (the output will let you know that it can’t create a snapshot), but it can still run a variety of checks against TempDB and it’s supported to run it. Don’t skip it! You should be checking master, model, msdb and tempdb, plus all your user databases.




                          Should I run checkdb on Tempdb as often i do for user database ? No you can avoid that if required.



                          Should I not run checkdb at all on tempdb database ? No, you should run. Do not omit it.







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