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Why do Windows registry hives appear empty?



Why do Windows registry hives appear empty?


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I went into "C:WindowsSystem32config" on my Windows 10 machine, and tried to open the registry hive files.



SOFTWARE, for example, has a size of exactly 128 MB as reported by Explorer, but when opening it with Visual Studio Code, it is shown as empty. Notepad refuses to open it because it is "used by another process". I get the same results for the other files (SYSTEM, SECURITY, etc.).



Is Windows trying to prevent me from doing something stupid? Are these files special in some way (besides hosting the registry)?










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  • Of course they are special - they are the heart of Windows.

    – harrymc
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  • @harrymc: So is ntoskrnl.exe, but that opens up in Notepad just fine.

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    @grawity: Are you looking for homogeneity in Windows permissions?

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I went into "C:WindowsSystem32config" on my Windows 10 machine, and tried to open the registry hive files.



SOFTWARE, for example, has a size of exactly 128 MB as reported by Explorer, but when opening it with Visual Studio Code, it is shown as empty. Notepad refuses to open it because it is "used by another process". I get the same results for the other files (SYSTEM, SECURITY, etc.).



Is Windows trying to prevent me from doing something stupid? Are these files special in some way (besides hosting the registry)?










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  • Of course they are special - they are the heart of Windows.

    – harrymc
    11 hours ago












  • @harrymc: So is ntoskrnl.exe, but that opens up in Notepad just fine.

    – grawity
    10 hours ago






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    @grawity: Are you looking for homogeneity in Windows permissions?

    – harrymc
    10 hours ago













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I went into "C:WindowsSystem32config" on my Windows 10 machine, and tried to open the registry hive files.



SOFTWARE, for example, has a size of exactly 128 MB as reported by Explorer, but when opening it with Visual Studio Code, it is shown as empty. Notepad refuses to open it because it is "used by another process". I get the same results for the other files (SYSTEM, SECURITY, etc.).



Is Windows trying to prevent me from doing something stupid? Are these files special in some way (besides hosting the registry)?










share|improve this question














I went into "C:WindowsSystem32config" on my Windows 10 machine, and tried to open the registry hive files.



SOFTWARE, for example, has a size of exactly 128 MB as reported by Explorer, but when opening it with Visual Studio Code, it is shown as empty. Notepad refuses to open it because it is "used by another process". I get the same results for the other files (SYSTEM, SECURITY, etc.).



Is Windows trying to prevent me from doing something stupid? Are these files special in some way (besides hosting the registry)?







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  • Of course they are special - they are the heart of Windows.

    – harrymc
    11 hours ago












  • @harrymc: So is ntoskrnl.exe, but that opens up in Notepad just fine.

    – grawity
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @grawity: Are you looking for homogeneity in Windows permissions?

    – harrymc
    10 hours ago

















  • Of course they are special - they are the heart of Windows.

    – harrymc
    11 hours ago












  • @harrymc: So is ntoskrnl.exe, but that opens up in Notepad just fine.

    – grawity
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @grawity: Are you looking for homogeneity in Windows permissions?

    – harrymc
    10 hours ago
















Of course they are special - they are the heart of Windows.

– harrymc
11 hours ago






Of course they are special - they are the heart of Windows.

– harrymc
11 hours ago














@harrymc: So is ntoskrnl.exe, but that opens up in Notepad just fine.

– grawity
10 hours ago





@harrymc: So is ntoskrnl.exe, but that opens up in Notepad just fine.

– grawity
10 hours ago




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@grawity: Are you looking for homogeneity in Windows permissions?

– harrymc
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@grawity: Are you looking for homogeneity in Windows permissions?

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They appear as empty because Visual Studio Code doesn't understand the concept of not being able to open the file. They're not actually empty, vscode is just literally unable to know whether they are or not.



Windows has the concept of "exclusive open" (aka "share modes", elsewhere also called "mandatory locking"). It is commonly used by database software to prevent another program from writing data at the same time as the database engine is managing it; if two handlers tried to write at once, they could end up corrupting the entire database. The same applies to filesystems – Windows doesn't actually let you access the raw disk device if it is mounted as a filesystem.



(That said, there are database formats specifically made for simultaneous access, such as LMDB.)



But the primary reason Windows Registry uses exclusive open is for security enforcement. Each Registry key can have a set of permissions (DACL/SACL) attached to it, just like a file or folder. If you could directly open a registry hive (especially the system or security hives), you could simply read the data that was supposed to be secured via permissions.






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    Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

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They appear as empty because Visual Studio Code doesn't understand the concept of not being able to open the file. They're not actually empty, vscode is just literally unable to know whether they are or not.



Windows has the concept of "exclusive open" (aka "share modes", elsewhere also called "mandatory locking"). It is commonly used by database software to prevent another program from writing data at the same time as the database engine is managing it; if two handlers tried to write at once, they could end up corrupting the entire database. The same applies to filesystems – Windows doesn't actually let you access the raw disk device if it is mounted as a filesystem.



(That said, there are database formats specifically made for simultaneous access, such as LMDB.)



But the primary reason Windows Registry uses exclusive open is for security enforcement. Each Registry key can have a set of permissions (DACL/SACL) attached to it, just like a file or folder. If you could directly open a registry hive (especially the system or security hives), you could simply read the data that was supposed to be secured via permissions.






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    Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

    – Peter Cordes
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They appear as empty because Visual Studio Code doesn't understand the concept of not being able to open the file. They're not actually empty, vscode is just literally unable to know whether they are or not.



Windows has the concept of "exclusive open" (aka "share modes", elsewhere also called "mandatory locking"). It is commonly used by database software to prevent another program from writing data at the same time as the database engine is managing it; if two handlers tried to write at once, they could end up corrupting the entire database. The same applies to filesystems – Windows doesn't actually let you access the raw disk device if it is mounted as a filesystem.



(That said, there are database formats specifically made for simultaneous access, such as LMDB.)



But the primary reason Windows Registry uses exclusive open is for security enforcement. Each Registry key can have a set of permissions (DACL/SACL) attached to it, just like a file or folder. If you could directly open a registry hive (especially the system or security hives), you could simply read the data that was supposed to be secured via permissions.






share|improve this answer




















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    Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

    – Peter Cordes
    2 hours ago













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They appear as empty because Visual Studio Code doesn't understand the concept of not being able to open the file. They're not actually empty, vscode is just literally unable to know whether they are or not.



Windows has the concept of "exclusive open" (aka "share modes", elsewhere also called "mandatory locking"). It is commonly used by database software to prevent another program from writing data at the same time as the database engine is managing it; if two handlers tried to write at once, they could end up corrupting the entire database. The same applies to filesystems – Windows doesn't actually let you access the raw disk device if it is mounted as a filesystem.



(That said, there are database formats specifically made for simultaneous access, such as LMDB.)



But the primary reason Windows Registry uses exclusive open is for security enforcement. Each Registry key can have a set of permissions (DACL/SACL) attached to it, just like a file or folder. If you could directly open a registry hive (especially the system or security hives), you could simply read the data that was supposed to be secured via permissions.






share|improve this answer















They appear as empty because Visual Studio Code doesn't understand the concept of not being able to open the file. They're not actually empty, vscode is just literally unable to know whether they are or not.



Windows has the concept of "exclusive open" (aka "share modes", elsewhere also called "mandatory locking"). It is commonly used by database software to prevent another program from writing data at the same time as the database engine is managing it; if two handlers tried to write at once, they could end up corrupting the entire database. The same applies to filesystems – Windows doesn't actually let you access the raw disk device if it is mounted as a filesystem.



(That said, there are database formats specifically made for simultaneous access, such as LMDB.)



But the primary reason Windows Registry uses exclusive open is for security enforcement. Each Registry key can have a set of permissions (DACL/SACL) attached to it, just like a file or folder. If you could directly open a registry hive (especially the system or security hives), you could simply read the data that was supposed to be secured via permissions.







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    Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

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    Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

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Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

– Peter Cordes
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Blocking other readers is potentially useful for a database that doesn't want other readers to see some of the file from before a transaction, some of the file from after a write, and even some bytes from the file during a supposedly atomic transaction. It's certainly inconvenient for use-cases where you don't care about getting a clean snapshot of the whole file, though.

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