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Why do Ryanair allow me to book connecting itineraries through a third party, but not through their own website?
What does the “Kiwi.com Guarantee” cover?“Flight mode” phone use banned on Ryanair. Is this a worldwide phenomenon?Flight + hotel deal on expedia, can I use other flight tickets without any consequences?Vacation booking reference problem with checkmytrip.comHow to find all flights scheduled between a pair of cities?Scheduled Ryanair flights from Zaventem moved to Charleroi?Way to avoid two bookings for a flight?How can I choose FRA without HHN on kiwi.com?How to verify, with different airlines, that the broker booked the flight correctly?Airline cancelled direct flight. I changed flight to another day. Must airline offer free change of hotel booked through airline?Cancelling £700 of flights with RyanAir. No refunds. Options?
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Yesterday I booked trip to Rome.
I found this journey through Skyscanner and booked it through Kiwi.com.
Before booking with Kiwi, I tried searching the same flights up directly with Norwegian Air and Ryanair, to see what the prices were there. With Ryanair, I could not find the flight at all. Ryanair told me they do not offer any flights between those cities. They still tell me that.
While researching for this question, I found out that I can actually find the individual legs of the flights on Ryanair.com, just not the whole CIA-OSL stretch. The thought occurred to me that perhaps they want to avoid selling the whole journey on a single booking, so that they are not liable for missed connections, etc, but it seems to me that whatever they gain from that should be way less than the lost revenue from not offering the trip at all?
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Yesterday I booked trip to Rome.
I found this journey through Skyscanner and booked it through Kiwi.com.
Before booking with Kiwi, I tried searching the same flights up directly with Norwegian Air and Ryanair, to see what the prices were there. With Ryanair, I could not find the flight at all. Ryanair told me they do not offer any flights between those cities. They still tell me that.
While researching for this question, I found out that I can actually find the individual legs of the flights on Ryanair.com, just not the whole CIA-OSL stretch. The thought occurred to me that perhaps they want to avoid selling the whole journey on a single booking, so that they are not liable for missed connections, etc, but it seems to me that whatever they gain from that should be way less than the lost revenue from not offering the trip at all?
air-travel bookings airlines connecting-flights ryanair
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Yesterday I booked trip to Rome.
I found this journey through Skyscanner and booked it through Kiwi.com.
Before booking with Kiwi, I tried searching the same flights up directly with Norwegian Air and Ryanair, to see what the prices were there. With Ryanair, I could not find the flight at all. Ryanair told me they do not offer any flights between those cities. They still tell me that.
While researching for this question, I found out that I can actually find the individual legs of the flights on Ryanair.com, just not the whole CIA-OSL stretch. The thought occurred to me that perhaps they want to avoid selling the whole journey on a single booking, so that they are not liable for missed connections, etc, but it seems to me that whatever they gain from that should be way less than the lost revenue from not offering the trip at all?
air-travel bookings airlines connecting-flights ryanair
edited 1 hour ago
smci
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asked yesterday
RevetahwRevetahw
13.5k76397
Yesterday I booked trip to Rome.
I found this journey through Skyscanner and booked it through Kiwi.com.
Before booking with Kiwi, I tried searching the same flights up directly with Norwegian Air and Ryanair, to see what the prices were there. With Ryanair, I could not find the flight at all. Ryanair told me they do not offer any flights between those cities. They still tell me that.
While researching for this question, I found out that I can actually find the individual legs of the flights on Ryanair.com, just not the whole CIA-OSL stretch. The thought occurred to me that perhaps they want to avoid selling the whole journey on a single booking, so that they are not liable for missed connections, etc, but it seems to me that whatever they gain from that should be way less than the lost revenue from not offering the trip at all?
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air-travel bookings airlines connecting-flights ryanair
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Ryanair is working almost strictly point-to-point. With a very few exceptions, they simply don't do connecting tickets, which saves them all the hassle and costs with accomodating people who missed their connection and so on. I can't comment on the profitability of this approach, but the fact that most low-cost carriers work this way is an indication that it does make some sense.
Kiwi.com, on the other hand, is a company that specializes in stitching together an itinerary from multiple separate tickets. They will book two separate Ryanair tickets for you and add their "Kiwi.com Guarantee" on top, which basically means you are not completely screwed if you miss the connection, but it's still nowhere near a true single booking.
answered yesterday
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Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
7
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
5
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
7
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
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Ryanair is working almost strictly point-to-point. With a very few exceptions, they simply don't do connecting tickets, which saves them all the hassle and costs with accomodating people who missed their connection and so on. I can't comment on the profitability of this approach, but the fact that most low-cost carriers work this way is an indication that it does make some sense.
Kiwi.com, on the other hand, is a company that specializes in stitching together an itinerary from multiple separate tickets. They will book two separate Ryanair tickets for you and add their "Kiwi.com Guarantee" on top, which basically means you are not completely screwed if you miss the connection, but it's still nowhere near a true single booking.
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
5
Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
7
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
5
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
7
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Ryanair is working almost strictly point-to-point. With a very few exceptions, they simply don't do connecting tickets, which saves them all the hassle and costs with accomodating people who missed their connection and so on. I can't comment on the profitability of this approach, but the fact that most low-cost carriers work this way is an indication that it does make some sense.
Kiwi.com, on the other hand, is a company that specializes in stitching together an itinerary from multiple separate tickets. They will book two separate Ryanair tickets for you and add their "Kiwi.com Guarantee" on top, which basically means you are not completely screwed if you miss the connection, but it's still nowhere near a true single booking.
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
5
Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
7
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
5
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
7
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
Ryanair is working almost strictly point-to-point. With a very few exceptions, they simply don't do connecting tickets, which saves them all the hassle and costs with accomodating people who missed their connection and so on. I can't comment on the profitability of this approach, but the fact that most low-cost carriers work this way is an indication that it does make some sense.
Kiwi.com, on the other hand, is a company that specializes in stitching together an itinerary from multiple separate tickets. They will book two separate Ryanair tickets for you and add their "Kiwi.com Guarantee" on top, which basically means you are not completely screwed if you miss the connection, but it's still nowhere near a true single booking.
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
Ryanair is working almost strictly point-to-point. With a very few exceptions, they simply don't do connecting tickets, which saves them all the hassle and costs with accomodating people who missed their connection and so on. I can't comment on the profitability of this approach, but the fact that most low-cost carriers work this way is an indication that it does make some sense.
Kiwi.com, on the other hand, is a company that specializes in stitching together an itinerary from multiple separate tickets. They will book two separate Ryanair tickets for you and add their "Kiwi.com Guarantee" on top, which basically means you are not completely screwed if you miss the connection, but it's still nowhere near a true single booking.
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
answered yesterday
TooTeaTooTea
979513
979513
5
Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
7
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
5
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
7
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
5
Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
7
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
5
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
7
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
5
5
Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
Interesting. I notice that if I had thought about all this during the booking process, I could have probably saved something like 40 euros by making individual bookings directly from Ryanair.com. This answer suggests the Kiwi guarantee is not all that, so perhaps it would have been worth it to do so. I will consider that for next time.
– Revetahw
yesterday
7
7
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
@Revetahw Ryanair doesn't cancel remaining legs because they're selling you a bunch of one-way tickets as separate journeys. There are no "remaining legs". And, actually, this is another potential problem for your scheme. If an airline has to cancel your flight before you've left your start location, they can just give you a full refund. Because budget airlines sell you one-way tickets, if your STN-OSL flight gets cancelled, Ryanair can just say "OK, here's your money back. That's the end of our obligations." Hopefully Kiwi covers this.
– David Richerby
yesterday
1
1
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
Since flight is operated by an airline located in EU and tickets are sold in a single transaction, the ticket seller is bound by the EU regulation and effectively has to offer exactly similar support as airline would have to in case of missing the connecting flight.
– Ister
yesterday
5
5
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
@Ister you are going to have to provide decent citations for that, because everything I have read about EU261 and other EU regulations in this area suggest otherwise.
– Moo
yesterday
7
7
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
@Ister Do you have anything to support that assertion? Because it sounds pretty unlikely, in that it would transfer responsibility from airlines to any travel agent. The Regulation doesn't say a word about a "seller", all the obligations are linked to an "operating air carrier", where "air carrier means an air transport undertaking with a valid operating licence".
– TooTea
22 hours ago
|
show 3 more comments
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